I saw a Forbes post that annoyed me. Said they were conducting an interview and he was going to address the ending, but then it was all "OH BUT DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT BCUZ THERE'S GONNA BE A MASS EFFECT MOVIE! YAAAY"
EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode *UPDATED 3/22/12, 5:28 PM UTC/GMT -4 hours*
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#227
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:43
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So this post is essentially implying that BioWare truly intended to just end Shepard's story, right there? When I first read that thread on indoctrination theory, I found it seriously intriguing, but still entirely crazy. It wasn't until I read another post that amassed another series of points that it actually made some sort of sense--BioWare had to have intended us to make all of those crazy, subtle connections, right?
To think that plot hole-ridden ending was actually meant to be taken at face value now completely boggles my mind.
Nonetheless, well written, atghunter.
To think that plot hole-ridden ending was actually meant to be taken at face value now completely boggles my mind.
Nonetheless, well written, atghunter.
#228
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:45
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Nafzger wrote...
I saw a Forbes post that annoyed me. Said they were conducting an interview and he was going to address the ending, but then it was all "OH BUT DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT BCUZ THERE'S GONNA BE A MASS EFFECT MOVIE! YAAAY"
link plz
#229
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:47
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GorrilaKing wrote...
Heh, even if the protests quiet down a bit, do they really think the asian market is going to take this any differently? They might not mind a tragic end (tragic endings are quite a proud tradition in many japanese/chinese works) but they certainly will not accept this bs. I'll bet you my shoes in about 3-4 days we will have a new influx of protesters.
From one of my Japanese friend regarding the ending: what? WTF is this **it ? ( oh well, not literally, but close
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#230
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:47
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You know what is funny? Another PR tool that I know is completely factual is to respond to a criticism or complicated issue on a Friday late afternoon when the news cycle is at it's slowest, and the stock markets are closed. Companies hope the weekend of busy partying fun makes the issue disappear, and fickle masses forget, and they also hope the shareholders are forgetful come Monday morning.
I was just waiting to say I bet someone at EA/Bioware makes a comment tonight, but I honestly thought it was a week early and would happen next Friday.
I was just waiting to say I bet someone at EA/Bioware makes a comment tonight, but I honestly thought it was a week early and would happen next Friday.
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#231
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:49
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vigna wrote...
You know what is funny? Another PR tool that I know is completely factual is to respond to a criticism or complicated issue on a Friday late afternoon when the news cycle is at it's slowest, and the stock markets are closed. Companies hope the weekend of busy partying fun makes the issue disappear, and fickle masses forget, and they also hope the shareholders are forgetful come Monday morning.
I was just waiting to say I bet someone at EA/Bioware makes a comment tonight, but I honestly thopugt it was a week early and would happen next Friday.
lol, you're abosolutely right ! Our beloved Mr.Hudson just did
#232
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:52
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Wow, atghunter was absolutely correct:
http://social.biowar.../index/10093191
A response that basically said nothing, but is intended to satisfy angry fans.
http://social.biowar.../index/10093191
A response that basically said nothing, but is intended to satisfy angry fans.
#233
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:52
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ok what does PR stand for. noob question I know.
#234
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:53
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So if Casey's making a statement now, does that mean BioWare is feeling further pressure?
#235
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:53
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They really are doing this exactly by the book, and we just have to stay in the game until they run out of smoke and mirrors and other distractions intended to pacify us. Because nothing short of a true response will make this go away.
#236
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:54
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@cro730 ....Public Relations
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#237
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:55
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BrotherFluffy wrote...
So if Casey's making a statement now, does that mean BioWare is feeling further pressure?
Yep...........
#238
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:55
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Released at 9pm on a Friday Night to avoid the blogs and the news cycle.
9pm on a Friday when some of the community is away on the MP challenge.
By the book.
9pm on a Friday when some of the community is away on the MP challenge.
By the book.
#239
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:57
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#240
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:57
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MrrBond wrote...
Wow, atghunter was absolutely correct:
http://social.biowar.../index/10093191
A response that basically said nothing, but is intended to satisfy angry fans.
Reading the comments, looks like a lot of people aren't buying it.
#241
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:59
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Can we, like, give atghunter his own command or something? A promotion?
#242
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 01:59
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It's a Trojan Horse, BURN IT! BURN IT I SAY!
#243
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 02:02
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vigna wrote...
BrotherFluffy wrote...
So if Casey's making a statement now, does that mean BioWare is feeling further pressure?
Yep...........
Good. We're making an effort. Just need to keep pushing. Keep holding the line.
#244
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 02:03
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Hudson's response tonight addressed nothing; answered nothing and deflected the criticism into "We got great reviews in the NY Times".
So far EA/Bioware are playing this out by the book.
So far EA/Bioware are playing this out by the book.
#245
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 02:06
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Like I said nothing is going to be done BW is no longer what it was.
#246
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 02:06
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Bachuck wrote...
Hudson's response tonight addressed nothing; answered nothing and deflected the criticism into "We got great reviews in the NY Times".
So far EA/Bioware are playing this out by the book.
Which is making it so much easier to follow along.
#247
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 02:07
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Don't give up, guys. Keep your head up. *Respectfully* demand more. This is NOT over.
#248
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 02:07
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Step 1: Fan interaction is very important.......
Step 2: .......also we got some great reviews.
Step 3: ????
Step 4: Profit.
Step 2: .......also we got some great reviews.
Step 3: ????
Step 4: Profit.
#250
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 02:10
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Screw holding the line. I say we mount the offensive. Amiable words won't make this problem go away. The fact of the matter is that someone wrote this ending, showed it to someone else, that person said "yeah that's sweet." Then they showed it to ten more people, and they all said "yeah that's sweet". Took it to a board meeting, "yeah that's sweet." Put it into development, "yeah that's sweet". Gave it to testers, "yeah that's sweet" and then unleashed it on the unsuspecting public.
Something is very, very wrong here. At this point, I have accepted the endings they gave us and I do not feel they will change. But whoever wrote them needs to know the endings are bad and they should feel bad for writing them, and everyone who chimed in with the "yeah that's sweet" need to know that they were enablers for mediocrity.
I don't even want an ending at this point, honestly. All I want is a god damned apology. I don't want one that says "we're sorry you didn't enjoy our endings." No, screw that. That puts the blame on us, as if it's our fault for not liking them. These writers and developers need to own up to their mistakes. The apology should be "we are very sorry that we were unable to deliver the endings that we promised, which would have suited and concluded this most unprecedented expedition through space soundly and appropriately."
Something is very, very wrong here. At this point, I have accepted the endings they gave us and I do not feel they will change. But whoever wrote them needs to know the endings are bad and they should feel bad for writing them, and everyone who chimed in with the "yeah that's sweet" need to know that they were enablers for mediocrity.
I don't even want an ending at this point, honestly. All I want is a god damned apology. I don't want one that says "we're sorry you didn't enjoy our endings." No, screw that. That puts the blame on us, as if it's our fault for not liking them. These writers and developers need to own up to their mistakes. The apology should be "we are very sorry that we were unable to deliver the endings that we promised, which would have suited and concluded this most unprecedented expedition through space soundly and appropriately."
