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[Irishkev]

I thought I just come in here and say I didn't mind the ending giving me 3 to pick from was nice the problem was leading up to it and after it.

Every mass effect game we had 2 to pick from good or bad this we had 3.

The problem is leading up they it unlike ME1 and 2 we knew what was going on this one it just kinda went FU and did a U turn of some sort. So it felt wrong and not like ME at all. Then there is the Cinematic ending No one can tell me they liked that if they do I need them to explain to me how.

As I sure as hell didn't like the cinematic ending Joker in a different system running away from the beam (why can he tell the future did he all of a sudden say sack the commander and earth) then there the part where he lands on the planet with the two crew members I had on earth (He couldn't pick me up from top of the citadel but he went to the battle in london picked them two up and got out I don't think so)

the fact the Mass relays get destroyed unless they confirmed that doing this from the citadel is different from when we destroyed the Mass relay in arrival then all life is sacked in every system so either way we are killing everyone.

the fact that ALL the alerns are now on earth and will KILL the humans and if you don't think so you are so niave because they are now stuck on EARTH never getting home and who brought them here the humans who they going to blame the humans so Humanity is dead.

Then the other problem where most of them aliens can't even eat or live in our plaent so they going to die eventually.

then there fact we don't know what happens after the war nothing we just see joker on a planet thats it.

which is why I don't like the cinematic ending not only in the last 3 minutes of the game does it not make any sense *to me* but they threw the lore book out the window with logic and replaced it with space magic.

[Reidbynature]

Razorsteel wrote...

We have made it to CNN in their videogame segment(on tv). They voiced our displeasure of the ending. They were very respectful of us.

Sweet.  At least that balances out Fox News being.... well, Fox News.  Blech.

[barine]

http://edition.cnn.c...ame-reviews.cnn

I believe that this is the link to the CNN piece, might be wrong. They mention some of the polls on the forum.

[Harbinger of Fun]

100 Get.

[LoboFH]

atghunter wrote...

Sawtooth357 wrote...

Atghunter, I've seen alot of people cancelling their Star Wars: Old Republic accounts in protest. I would like your opinion on whether or not you see this as a valid and viable tactic. Do you think it helps or hurts this movement?

For my take (not even from a PR view but just from just being a consumer), actions like this are always viable responses.  It is one of the many ways customers vote with their wallets.  The effect though would seem to be hard to measure (especially from this past weekend with the free SW promo) so it may be a week or two before even EA would have data.  And they definitely won't let you know you're having an impact.  Statements, a common voice, efforts like Take Back all are pieces on the chessboard.  Likewise, expressing displeasure individually towards a company through refusing to solicit them (even for services you might otherwise purchase) so long as the company knows you are no longer soliciting the service out of protest (sending them an accompanying e-mail, etc explaining your action) is another potential piece.   

And, of course, as I've said before, whether or not, it's to be done, I'll differ to collective discussions and individual decisions

Hope that helps!

A note for everybody...when you cancel your SW:TOR account they ask you why and send you a survey.

That's the moment to let them know why.

No, I didn't cancel my SW:TOR account because this fiasco, great game but I realized I don't like the MMO's gameplay structure and turn-based combat.

Modifié par LoboFH, 18 mars 2012 - 03:26 .

[lavosslayer]

I just posted the link to the CNN thing on the previous page...unfortunately it was the last post of the page

[Razorsteel]

lavosslayer wrote...

CNN Link Below
http://www.cnn.com/v...ame-reviews.cnn


Mass Effect portion starts at the 4 min mark

Thanks Lavosslayer, you have powerful search -fu.

Modifié par Razorsteel, 18 mars 2012 - 03:26 .

[lavosslayer]

lavosslayer wrote...

CNN Link Below

http://www.cnn.com/v...ame-reviews.cnn

Mass Effect portion starts at the 4 min mark

Just in case you didn't see this ^

[terdferguson123]

You know this whole thing is rather funny I find. As someone who enjoyed the game and the ending I cannot help but look at the vast majority of these posters and see similarities between you guys and one of those weird doomsday cults that always end in mass suicide when they find out they were just overreacting. People will do anything to be heard I guess.

[No_MSG]

Just gonna throw this out before bed. I solemnly promise to nerd scream if we get new endings.

[cokohpuffs41]

OniRogue wrote...

First off I want to thank you for your (at least for me) very insightful analysis!

I actually have a question for you (or anyone else who knows something about that matter):

While I am not against paying for an alternate Ending DLC pack, knowing that marketing costs can rise to astronomical heights do you think the option to make it Free would be feasible and under consideration at the respective marketing department?
(Weighing the value of the positive Advertisement against the actual Production costs?)

Thinking about all this stuff makes me realise how I do not want to be in the shoes of someone making these decisions

No problem!  

Speaking strictly from the business side of things (and kind of as a devil's advocate of sorts), since they are possibly (probably) looking at altered forecasts now --which probably have them falling short of their goals (not necessarily saying they don't make a profit) -- they would most likely not do something that will continue to negatively affect that bottom line: simply put, they're not going to want to lose guaranteed money on top of not making 100% of what they initially though they were going to make on the game.  

If they end up making the DLC and charging money, they are betting that enough people that have shown passion for the series will buy well made ending DLC to, at least, break even in that endeavor.  Either way, EA/Bioware can't be happy about the short-term on their profits no matter what they do...endings or not.  Since regardless of their actions from this point on, they probably will not end up making as much money as they one thought on this game.

If they project enough people buying Ending DLC to cover the expenses of creating it, it's a no-brainer of a decision.

EDIT:  I just wanted to state that no matter how optimistically you take this analysis, big companies sometimes make decisions that just don't make sense.  Take it from someone who knows first hand!

Modifié par cokohpuffs41, 18 mars 2012 - 03:33 .

[mrderp27]

lavosslayer wrote...

CNN Link Below

http://www.cnn.com/v...ame-reviews.cnn

Mass Effect portion starts at the 4 min mark

quoted for great justice

did she pronounce fifa as fiffa?

Modifié par mrderp27, 18 mars 2012 - 03:29 .

[Sarah Aran]

donbaloo wrote...

Kulthar Drax wrote...

(pasted from elsewhere) Also, we ideally need a website or some forum somewhere that updates can be posted in the form of news articles on the main page for fans to check regularly that won't get swamped under a barrage of new topics, especially if for whatever reason their PR guys decide to insist on trying to shut down outlets and topics here to block everyone's attempts at organising (it'd probably be a bad move, but it might be attempted on the offchance it'd destroy our ability to organise) on these forums.

This. If you folks don't have a communication base to fall back to, just in case, I'd make it a high priority soon.

I take it this would be a good time to register "www.takebackme3.com" ?

[The Divine Avenger]

RiouHotaru wrote...

cyrrant wrote...

That's great!  Was there anything you liked about the Retake Mass Effect movement?

I admire that you're standing for your belief.  But I feel the overall reaction is far too heated.  I think it's perfectly reasonable to tell Bioware you're displeased.  You're certaintly entitled to do that, and I would stand by you in saying you have a right to do that.

But the rampant "Swear off everything Bioware/EA till they fix it", "The entire series is now unreplayable", and this "Let's donate a ton of money to a charity on the bare hope they'll change anything"?  After the game has only been out for 12 days?

Or the claims that Bioware's silence and vague answers (which is standard company policy so early after release) is indicative of some kind of plot/conspiracy?

I support your opinion.  I feel the methods being used to portray this opinion are...extreme.

All I can say to this is simple the extreme get noticed & thats what we want to be noticed & heared

[Khyrradas]

terdferguson123 wrote...

You know this whole thing is rather funny I find. As someone who enjoyed the game and the ending I cannot help but look at the vast majority of these posters and see similarities between you guys and one of those weird doomsday cults that always end in mass suicide when they find out they were just overreacting. People will do anything to be heard I guess.

Here ya go!!

*tosses bag of Troll-Feed*

[MeldarthX]

Numdenu wrote...

It's funny. This uprising movement is...exactly like what the actual game tried to convey. People banding together, bringing hope and light to what was a hopeless situation. Disorganized and at each other's throats, the galaxy wouldn't stand a chance against the Reapers. But they set aside their differences and stood, united, against a threat. They found hope. And in one way or another, technically the Reapers WERE defeated.

Now. Our battle here. We are civil--our training. We are passionate and steadfast--our drive to fight. We have our clear, consise arguments that we have presented the devs with--our Crucible. We even have our own Shepards to follow, like atghunter, Bachuck, the leaders of the Retake movement.

If we stick together and stick to our guns, we can win this.

You forgot.........the 3 huskteers and most importantly Marauder Shields; he gave his life to stop us from seeing the ending.  There is new evidence/theory that it was in fact Marauder Shields that leaked the scripted.  He saw it; tried to warn us.........and I shot him dead.......

*Pulls up another whiskey with ..........emeeeeeeeergancy inductor port*  Salute Marauder Shields; you held the line........


HOLD THE LINE

[Zopane]

terdferguson123 wrote...

You know this whole thing is rather funny I find. As someone who enjoyed the game and the ending I cannot help but look at the vast majority of these posters and see similarities between you guys and one of those weird doomsday cults that always end in mass suicide when they find out they were just overreacting. People will do anything to be heard I guess.

Maybe we will end up having to eat our words if/when there's some announcements made, but it doesn't hurt to get our word out there as dedicated fans who only wish the best for Bioware and it's future.

[Lozark]

Sentr0 wrote...

Remember guys that by just bumping this thread we accomplish nothing. Till the victory dont buy dont play(if possible) anything from origin/ea/bioware, also try recruiting others to help our cause

Well said =)  I've already talked most of my friends out of participating in the MP weekend, and that's only the beginning.

[rvayda141]

lavosslayer wrote...

lavosslayer wrote...

CNN Link Below

http://www.cnn.com/v...ame-reviews.cnn

Mass Effect portion starts at the 4 min mark

Just in case you didn't see this ^

Very cool. Seeing our situation talked about in so much outside media, non video game media even, is pretty neat. What's most surprising of all is that not all of it is making us out to be spoiled, whiny children. We've got momentum, keep it up guys.

[RazorrX]

I for one do not want Bioware to fail as a company. I want Bioware to succeed. I want Bioware to continue to make high quality RPGs. I think the last few years they have worked very hard on capturing new audiences and started to drift from what they are best known for - the RPG.

This ending is an example of Bioware not connecting to the userbase that made them what they are today. They disregarded the RPG aspect and threw out our choices, actions and the time we spent on the previous games to make a this one such a 'great entry point' for new players, more action oriented (I did enjoy the combat), etc. Sure the story up to the beam was awesome. I laughed, cried, shouted in anger and triumph, etc. But it seemed to just fall apart after you fired that last Thanix Missile.

I think they had a touch of Hubris when they made the ending and instead of thinking - what kind of ending does this franchise deserve? What have the fans who will have played all 3 games feel is coming? etc. We know that they were unsure of an ending up until NOV of last year, so maybe they just went with a hail mary or something.

The way the suicide mission in ME2 was set up would have worked so well for ME3 with fleet battles win/lose along with ground forces, etc. The game could have been epic.

So I hold the line not in the hopes that Bioware falls, but in the hopes that Bioware returns to the greatness that it once was.

I think that made sense . . . I have had a few margaritas today for St. Patty day. (Hey they are green too!)

[InsaneNarwhal]

terdferguson123 wrote...

You know this whole thing is rather funny I find. As someone who enjoyed the game and the ending I cannot help but look at the vast majority of these posters and see similarities between you guys and one of those weird doomsday cults that always end in mass suicide when they find out they were just overreacting. People will do anything to be heard I guess.

Just in case you haven't been paying attention. An overwhelming majority of the people requesting a fixed or alternate ending are being civil. Very outspoken, very loud, but overall civil. Comparing that to a doomsday cult that commits ritual suicide is both misinformed and childish. If you enjoyed the ending of the game, more power to you. A lot of us did not see any sort of coherency or closure, and that is what all the noise is about. 

[Computron2000]

A point also to remember. These are bioware's forums. Its easy for them to make a new id with whatever stuff they want, post something to inspire conflict or create anticipation so people will shut up as well as tell others to shut up because "XXX is coming soon".

[vigna]

lavosslayer wrote...

CNN Link Below

http://www.cnn.com/v...ame-reviews.cnn

Mass Effect portion starts at the 4 min mark

nice.

[rollblows]

terdferguson123 wrote...

You know this whole thing is rather funny I find. As someone who enjoyed the game and the ending I cannot help but look at the vast majority of these posters and see similarities between you guys and one of those weird doomsday cults that always end in mass suicide when they find out they were just overreacting. People will do anything to be heard I guess.

i thank you should be leaveing:ph34r:

[Verit]

Some interesting posts here. I think the Retake movement could use some improvements though. The mission statement on the Facebook page for example has a bunch of spelling mistakes, and tweets like "almost forgot I had a twitter! Oops..." on the Twitter account won't exactly help people take the movement seriously. There's plenty of people that want to ridicule the movement, and not giving them a chance to do so is important as well.