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[Militarized]

npoqrhgcnpouheprouhncpo wrote...

I have read quite a few post (skipping through) as well as the recap of the best post from page one, but I'll have to say that with all this PR and Military talk, in the end the thing that really matters is what Todd Howard said in his D.I.C.E. keynote... is about engaging the player and keeping him/her invested and interested in the game...

If many of you played ME1 & ME2 several times through and bought most DLCs like I did, but placed the game back on the shelf after the ending of ME3 not to touch it again and will not buy any DLC, not because we want to boycott Bioware, but simply because that game is not worth replaying or getting any DLC for that should be plenty enough for them to know they screwed up and their pockets in the long run will hurt...as well as their credibility with their costumers.

Me personally I own every Bioware game since Neverwinter Nights... but after DA2 and ME3 I will not preorder anymore games from them...I will for Bethesda cause they have my trust, but not for Bioware any longer....

So all this talk about Holding The Line, PR guys, Military tactics are a lot of fun for an old (well not so old....alright I owned the first Pong game console lol) gamer like myself but it almost gives the wrong impression that we are not playing just to prove a point and punish Bioware.

Honestly what the hell with them, people like myself will not play the game...because as it is...it has no replay value period!

And since they monitor every stat they will KNOW EXACTLY how many hours you played ME1, ME2 and ME3.... I can tell you one thing I have more then 700 hours of Skyrim and I am more likely to go back there then on the Normandy.

So Bioware, if you are listening I really want you know that I don't care if you don't fix this, you will just be treated as every other AVERAGE software house, I will buy your games from the used games shelves after reading lots of User Reviews....that's all, No big Deal

Please understand that you are not doing me or us any favors.... this mess started because people is having an hard time placing you on the level of other average companies and are trying to push you to stay above that... so in a way they are fighting for you to HELP YOURSELF.

But I'm cool with either way, for a company that goes down there is always somebody else stepping up.

Best Regards

Wait, what did DICE say? 

[Rulycar]

*WARNING*
Be wary of links ...
... I just clicked one that went to a glowing review in the NO SPOILERS forum.
I think someone is trying to get posters banned.

[SaladinDheonqar]

This thread just keeps on getting better and better. HOLDING THAT LINE!

[TheSolution1]

Hey everyone, this is my very first post on these forums. I have been playing Bioware games ever since Kotor and I have to say in this companies entire history nothing has disappointed me as much as the ending of Mass effect 3. I wanted to go back and play all 3 games back to back to back but after that ending I can't bring myself to do it. I support everything this thread represents because somebody needs to stand up to Bioware and let them know they messed up. Their are many more people In the Silent Majority that agree with you guys as well.  So if anyone from Bioware actually reads this....... my message to you is that not only have you upset your hardcore base but you have also upset casual fans like myself.  I'm proud to be holding the line with thousands of other people who feel the same way as me.

[EsterCloat]

Sentr0 wrote...

wow we got tricked, look at this http://social.biowar.../index/10171073

Turtlicious wrote...

Mike Gamble said that the insulting commenters are the minority.


@GambleMike there are also some fantastic constructive comments too. And amazing people! It seems like the bad ones are the minority

agathokakological wrote...

Oh. So that's why they ask for constructive criticism.

>_>

The OP in that thread didn't write out the whole message which has led the thread into being quite inflammatory. It actually says that a minority of people are being insulting and a majority of the constructive criticism is just that - constructive. Don't read too much into it please. He says we're being civil which is good.

Modifié par EsterCloat, 18 mars 2012 - 08:21 .

[Sentr0]

EsterCloat wrote...
The OP in that thread didn't write out the whole message which has led the thread into being quite inflammatory. It actually says that a minority of people are being insulting and a majority of the constructive criticism is just that - constructive. Don't read too much into it please. He says we're being civil which is good.

oh sorry then didnt read it all

[RagingCeltik]

Just a reminder folks. Swell the numbers. Support the Mission Statement and share the links! Get more people involved!

Modifié par RagingCeltik, 18 mars 2012 - 08:26 .

[Sentr0]

what's the next step? SItuation looks static, no good

[Riktus227]

Stand up and take it back !!
Hold. the. line !

[Turtlicious]

For f*cks sake.

I apologized and try to fix the damn thread.

[Militarized]

Turtlicious wrote...

For f*cks sake.

I apologized and try to fix the damn thread.

Stuff happens bro, no worries.  

[El Capt Mexico]

To be completely honest I have never been much of a reader. But oddly enough I have been reading and reading post after post of this whole ending debacle. I have to tip my hat off to Bachuck and atghunter for keeping us updated on this from the PR stand point. And also to KeldorKatarn and redknight38 for there points of view.

It is unfortunate that we live in a "got to have it now" nation, this is definitely not something that can be (or ever will be) fixed over a weekend. So hopefully all the people who were let down by the ending are able to hold on.

[EsterCloat]

Turtlicious wrote...

For f*cks sake.

I apologized and try to fix the damn thread.

I wasn't calling you out or anything, I just thought I'd set the record straight before anyone began to think otherwise. No harm, no foul. Everything's cool here.

Modifié par EsterCloat, 18 mars 2012 - 08:43 .

[ilComico]

Hi, I don't post very often on the forum but there has never be a better time let people know how i feel about all this. During my first (and at the moment only) playthrough i was aware that people on the forum was criticizing the endind but I hoped they were just exaggerating. Now that I finished it I can only say that this is an awful ending for a fantastic trilogy.
I feel betrayed, but that's just my opinion.

[OneWithTheAssassins]

I just want a happy ending! Is that really too much to ask?

[EDarkness]

I'm gonna chime in and say that the ending to the game was horrible, and uncalled for. All of the other games had the possibility for an uplifting "happy" or "we kicked their ass (fist bump)" ending. The build up to the end should have been something epic and badass. That's what I was expecting, but what we got was so confusing and had lots of plot holes. That's not how it was supposed to end. I'm just throwing my support in with those who are against the ending and would like a new one. I've played and own a lot of Bioware games and this is the only one that really made me feel angry at the end.

You guys really need to do something about this.

[EsterCloat]

ilComico wrote...

Hi, I don't post very often on the forum but there has never be a better time let people know how i feel about all this. During my first (and at the moment only) playthrough i was aware that people on the forum was criticizing the endind but I hoped they were just exaggerating. Now that I finished it I can only say that this is an awful ending for a fantastic trilogy.
I feel betrayed, but that's just my opinion.

You're not alone unfortunately. I had a very similar experience, I didn't know it was the ending exactly that was causing the hullabaloo but I did hear murmurs of discontent about something in ME3, but I figured I would be the judge of that myself. And I enjoyed the game for the most part until the end. Anyway, welcome to the thread.

[MustacheManatee]

This thread is amazing. My head is literally exploding with information. Thank you.

[OhManTFE]

I wonder how much rage there will be if they try to charge consumers for New Ending DLC/patches?

I personally will buy the DLC - because I am that desperate for an actual ending.

[soozy]

I just want to say what others have said, but I'm so impressed that this whole ending issue really is a BIG DEAL to other people as well.

My reaction to the ending went something like this - The first thing I thought when I heard Star Child speaking was, "Uh, did this game just turn into A.I. and Mission to Mars?" When he finished speaking, "Wait, now it's Matrix Revolutions?" Then all of the Mass Relays exploded and all I could think was, "Okay so everyone is stuck on Earth, or dead from the Relay explosions...that's okay, I'm sure we'll see in a moment that everyone didn't just die in...oh wait, the credits, well there are things that happen during and after the credits in most games. Oooh, a pretty purple moon and...who is that? Old Kaiden? But Garrus was my LI...so who is that? Wait it's over? NOOOOOOOOOOO!"

I was already annoyed that the game decided to bring in pseudo-philosophical tones (though I didn't think Shepard was indoctrinated at the time, I figured she had "ascended" into some sort of spiritual body). The inclusion of a "superior being," too, like A.I. and Mission to Mars had (both of those are not generally considered to have good endings as far as I know, either) made me *eyeroll* as well. The destruction of the relays however was what made me really really really dislike the ending, as all of the struggles for peace my Shepard spent days on just amounted to nothing.

I figured I might be one of the minority that had this reaction to the game, that I was too involved with the story. I couldn't have been more pleased to come to the forums and see so many other people felt the same way. So many other people love the games as much as I do, even more I believe. Even though this must be a complete PR storm for Bioware, the fact that they made games that mean this much to people should be a compliment to them as in my 25+ years of gaming I'd never seen a backlash to this level.

The fact that Bioware has so many fans who care so much for their characters and universe ties into the arguments here about how Bioware can recover from this by acknowledging our disappointment and providing us with (free, hopefully) additional content that addresses our biggest concerns. I'm really impressed with the incredibly well-written responses the OP compiled that eloquently states our concerns, everything that Bioware has to gain by either changing or adding onto the current ending, and the dedication by most anti-ending people to keeping a civil discourse.

Modifié par soozy, 18 mars 2012 - 09:14 .

[Lil One]

ilComico wrote...

Hi, I don't post very often on the forum but there has never be a better time let people know how i feel about all this. During my first (and at the moment only) playthrough i was aware that people on the forum was criticizing the endind but I hoped they were just exaggerating. Now that I finished it I can only say that this is an awful ending for a fantastic trilogy.
I feel betrayed, but that's just my opinion.

Same here, felt betrayed.  I refused to choose colour for a long time, then I gave in and did, hoping I would wake up down below or next to Anderson or something, but no, I was met with, uh... something weird...

I hoped it would be endings from "happy" to "failure", not leave me feeling like I had been punched in the gut, railroaded into something odd.

I have enjoyed the rest of the game, all three of them, that is why I too felt betrayed.  If the end of the journey nullifies the journey, was the journey then worth it?

Modifié par Lil One, 18 mars 2012 - 09:15 .

[RobinEJ]

ilComico wrote...

Hi, I don't post very often on the forum but there has never be a better time let people know how i feel about all this. During my first (and at the moment only) playthrough i was aware that people on the forum was criticizing the endind but I hoped they were just exaggerating. Now that I finished it I can only say that this is an awful ending for a fantastic trilogy.
I feel betrayed, but that's just my opinion.

I think more and more people will come to this conclusion...

[StarcloudSWG]

There are some very good insights here. Bioware's PR department must be scrambling to try to contain the damage.

A pity none of them have ever learned an honest apology followed by action to address the grievance is the best and fastest way to regain the confidence of your consumers.