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#2851
Baineblade

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Aaaand beaten by one minute....damn yew Vega!!!! And your devilishly handsome, if somewhat overly muscled, looks!!

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Daricepicker

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Gespenst wrote...

https://docs.google....&sle=true&pli=1

Did the rest of you see this?

Pretty much this.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUqAhKW7498

I came across this video in another thread that I think gives a great way to end the game that is different from the Indoctrination theory. It is pretty long and the first ten minutes is spent on him explaining what he thinks was originally supposed to be the ending before they changed it to what we got so if you just want to hear how he would end it skip to around ten minutes.

#2853
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Examiner.com said
The story of Commander Shepard has drawn to a close, though not in a way many expected. Mass Effect 2 left incredibly high expectations to the point of being impossible to surpass. Mass Effect 3 is a fine game that is worth playing, but it is in no way the best in the trilogy. Still, after a five year-long journey, it’s nice to see it ended decently.


Continue reading on Examiner.com Mass Effect 3 - Scranton Video Game | Examiner.com http://www.examiner....w#ixzz1pSgBrzvI

Not sure what he means by "decently."

#2854
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Good read and Bookmarked I want to see what will happen. I've been a Bioware fan since Baulders Gate 2, but this has left a bitter taste in my mouth.

Hold the Line.

#2855
Zero.Gee

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Does anyone know if there is any kind of official website for the movement other than the facebook & twitter page? I thought I read about someone starting one early yesterday evening on the forums, but for the life of me I couldn't find the thread I thought I read it in.

#2856
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Signing off for the night, passing the watch to our allies on the other side of the earth.

Bioware, your legacy deserves better. Don't let Mass Effect be remembered as that awesome trilogy with a stupid ending.

Hold the line.

#2857
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Zero.Gee wrote...

Does anyone know if there is any kind of official website for the movement other than the facebook & twitter page? I thought I read about someone starting one early yesterday evening on the forums, but for the life of me I couldn't find the thread I thought I read it in.

I've repurposed an old site of mine for the retake mass effect group but it's unoffical until i hear from the guy thats running the movement.

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Rulycar

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Zero.Gee wrote...

Does anyone know if there is any kind of official website for the movement other than the facebook & twitter page? I thought I read about someone starting one early yesterday evening on the forums, but for the life of me I couldn't find the thread I thought I read it in.


I saw that post as well ... haven't seen site, yet.
Though, I've been reading press articles and haven't checked for an update.

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ArmyKnifeX

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Menethra wrote...

Zero.Gee wrote...

Does anyone know if there is any kind of official website for the movement other than the facebook & twitter page? I thought I read about someone starting one early yesterday evening on the forums, but for the life of me I couldn't find the thread I thought I read it in.

I've repurposed an old site of mine for the retake mass effect group but it's unoffical until i hear from the guy thats running the movement.


There's no one person running this show. There are a number of people doing a number of things, but no one person is our "leader".

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This is firmly a leaderless movement, which has its advantages and disadvantages. Mostly things seem to work by consensus. Oh God we've become the Geth...

Modifié par Paparob, 18 mars 2012 - 10:21 .


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Menethra

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ArmyKnifeX wrote...

Menethra wrote...

Zero.Gee wrote...

Does anyone know if there is any kind of official website for the movement other than the facebook & twitter page? I thought I read about someone starting one early yesterday evening on the forums, but for the life of me I couldn't find the thread I thought I read it in.

I've repurposed an old site of mine for the retake mass effect group but it's unoffical until i hear from the guy thats running the movement.


There's no one person running this show. There are a number of people doing a number of things, but no one person is our "leader".


I'm refering to the guy thats running the facebook page.

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Baineblade

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Paparob wrote...

This is firmly a leaderless movement, which has its advantages and disadvantages. Mostly things seem to work by consensus. Oh God we've become the Geth...


Well I for one welcome our new Shiney metallic overlords.  And offer my services in hopes that our Geth Overseers will not at any time vaporize us.

(In all truth though, consensus is a truly effective way of moving forward.  One of the reasons I loved the Geth so much and wanted to save em!)

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Baineblade wrote...
(In all truth though, consensus is a truly effective way of moving forward.  One of the reasons I loved the Geth so much and wanted to save em!)


This mobile platform does agree.

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Zero.Gee wrote...

Does anyone know if there is any kind of official website for the movement other than the facebook & twitter page? I thought I read about someone starting one early yesterday evening on the forums, but for the life of me I couldn't find the thread I thought I read it in.


It's probably best if we stay put right below Bioware's nose. If we scamper of to some other website they'll probably feel less pressure than if we set their very own forum ablaze.

That's my take on it anyway.

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http://www.inenterta...t-3-conclusion/

This UK article was interesting. (though brief)

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npoqrhgcnpouheprouhncpo wrote...


If many of you played ME1 & ME2 several times through and bought most DLCs like I did, but placed the game back on the shelf after the ending of ME3 not to touch it again and will not buy any DLC, not because we want to boycott Bioware, but simply because that game is not worth replaying or getting any DLC for that should be plenty enough for them to know they screwed up and their pockets in the long run will hurt...as well as their credibility with their costumers.


^This

The 'endings' have just ruined the fanchise for me. Which sucks because it was one of my all time favorites. As it stands now,  I have no intrest in DLC (that isn't a satisfactory change to the end) or even any merchendice.

Considering how well the first 99% of the game is, I think the team could do much better with that last 1% and bring it up to the quality of the rest.

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I'm willing to buy new ending DLC but only if its ACTUALLY good. But selling incomplete game, then asking more money for the ending is a bit unethical

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ArmyKnifeX

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EvilMind wrote...

I'm willing to buy new ending DLC but only if its ACTUALLY good. But selling incomplete game, then asking more money for the ending is a bit unethical


I'm not willing to buy any new DLC, period. The ending DLC will have to be free for me. I pre-ordered the CE of this unfinished and broken/buggy game.

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Sierra163 wrote...

npoqrhgcnpouheprouhncpo wrote...


If many of you played ME1 & ME2 several times through and bought most DLCs like I did, but placed the game back on the shelf after the ending of ME3 not to touch it again and will not buy any DLC, not because we want to boycott Bioware, but simply because that game is not worth replaying or getting any DLC for that should be plenty enough for them to know they screwed up and their pockets in the long run will hurt...as well as their credibility with their costumers.


^This

The 'endings' have just ruined the fanchise for me. Which sucks because it was one of my all time favorites. As it stands now,  I have no intrest in DLC (that isn't a satisfactory change to the end) or even any merchendice.

Considering how well the first 99% of the game is, I think the team could do much better with that last 1% and bring it up to the quality of the rest.



Hear, hear.  For the love of the game... <3

#2870
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My thoughts have always been that Most games are for the younger players They have quicker reflexes and can devote more time into gaming so they are probably the majority of the fan base and gamming dollars.

I have been reading a good number of the posts here and I know I am probably in the minority
as far as age goes. Lets just say my first computer was a commodore 64.
I am pretty careful when I buy games as I am not that good at the fast action type and I like the games to have some meat to them . I am also not into MP games –Too fast paced

I usually wait for the game to come out read the reviews and then decide to buy it or not
But one thing I took as gospel and that is when Bioware came out with a game it was a no brainer that I would enjoy the game. I had no problems preordering their games. I have even gone to their site to see if they published any games that I might have missed from the past. I even bought Star wars TOR and played it online. ( I have since canceled my subscription)


Bioware did a very terrible thing, They made a game series where the universe they created became very real to me. I developed feelings the main Character as well as the sub characters.
I Played ME1 and ME2 as every class some male some female and even had Paragon and Renegade play throughs. In Prep for ME3 I even played ME2 where I purposely didn’t upgrade the ship and didn’t finish
some loyalty missions Just to see what effects it would have in the ME2 game and final game ME3.
(I also bought all the DLC for both games)
Talk about replay ability !!!!

Well that was then and this is now

My trust has been broken with this company and I don’t really like speculating but I wonder how much EA has effected Bioware in a bad sense.
I know one thing I will never blindly buy a game again without it coming out first where I can read the reviews

I do not think EA/Bioware realized how emotionally involved players got to the ME series
Otherwise how could they have produced a Great series up to and including Pre ending ME3
and let it become the most unsatisfying experience I and others have ever had.
You Have to wonder if anyone there actually played the game and was Like Wow what a great ending.
Maybe it is as simple as the guy who makes donuts all day he gets so numb to them that the last thing he wants for dessert is a donut.
Oh and donuts have holes in them too..

Modifié par Elvwood, 18 mars 2012 - 10:48 .


#2871
Zero.Gee

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Why do I have a sense of a Stand Alone Complex right now?

#2872
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Also, the fusion ending is so terrible I can't even get my head around it. Rewrite EDI, to be partly organic? Really? ... Really? That is so logically flawed on soooo many levels.

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TheRealMithril wrote...

Also, the fusion ending is so terrible I can't even get my head around it. Rewrite EDI, to be partly organic? Really? ... Really? That is so logically flawed on soooo many levels.


I think you could just like, bury some giblets inside her. That'd make her part organic, right?

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Elvwood wrote...

My thoughts have always been that Most games are for the younger players


Teaching young players that genocide is kosher because of imagined Synthetic vs Organic hatred is a terrible lesson to teach.

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Gespenst wrote...

https://docs.google....&sle=true&pli=1

Did the rest of you see this?

Pretty much this.


There's a few things in that doc that can be easily explained...albeit the bulk of it seems pretty accurate.

The most glaring things in the doc that can be explained are the notions of Joker and the results of the explosion of the Relays on the Normandy. (see: 2 and 3 of the final section)

The parts about the Normandy's destruction through the jump is simply explained similar to a facet of something like Star Trek's warp system...if you're traveling at faster-than-light speeds you need methods to 'shield' yourself from the surrounding space, this would assume that the ship is traveling either via a conduit-type system or that the ship itself emits a field around it.  The blast wave from the results you pick would almost assuredly destablize the methods that the Relays use for travel, thus causing whatever is in the 'conduit' to be hurtled out of it, or whatever field the ship was emitting to collapse resulting in a similar effect.  Without any precidence in the ME canon about ships prematurely falling out of this method of transport you have to fall back on assumptions of similar methods...ergo the resulting stress from going the speeds that the Relays send you at back into normal space would almost assuredly cause massive damage.

This would also answer the question of how the Normandy survived the expected results of the Mass Relays...as they fell out of the Relay's path prematurely and crashed on a planet in a system without a relay.  The only problem with this is that the probabilities of coming out of the Relay's path in an area of the galaxy with a system, and to have that system hold a planet that supports human life, is so astronomically low that it's all but impossible.  Of course this could be 'fixed' with the Synergy-ending in that the new DNA doesn't require 'garden worlds' similar to Earth.

All of this, however, really doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things, but those were the two points I could argue against easily and logically without imparting my own opinion of scenes.  There are others, such as the entirety of the first moments on the Citadel after Harbringer's attack, but that is nothing more than my own perceptions/opinions.