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[Michotic]

The Almighty Ali wrote...

Now, A moral boost will always help and while I am Unsure who made this, it sure is something that boosts my resolve in this.

That video did the same for me.

Hold the line!

[No_MSG]

Hey, I have a question. Who are we taking Mass Effect back from? And has anyone asked Justin Timberlake if he could just bring it back, like he did with sexy?

That said, I was really disappointed that none of my decisions came back to haunt me. I was really hoping sparing the Rachni, or rewriting the Geth would turn out to be wrong.

[jmarkows]

The Almighty Ali wrote...

Now, A moral boost will always help and while I am Unsure who made this, it sure is something that boosts my resolve in this.

More people must spread this message around.

[zsom]

KeldorKatarn wrote...

...

The only viable strategy for you guys is doing
exactly what the other side cannot handle: Keep the pressure up! DON'T fall in
line, don't respond to false offers of peace.
...

I think you are forgetting that "all of this has happened before, and it will all happen again", or in our case it may happen again. DA II already went through this and I'm not sure anyone would call that a victory (for either side).

First we had the review bombing, and all the hate on the forums. And if you recall Bioware's reaction was essentially the same. First silence, then the we are listening give us feedback PR talk, and after a long time they announced the first DLC Legacy. And let's be honest, they did try to fix what they could, they added wardens, changed how mobs spawned, reduced the number of the waves, added new locations etc.

Now I have no idea how much of this was planned before the negative reviews and the decreasing sales but at least some of it was clearly a shot at appeasing the fans.

And did it work? No. Even though Legacy was better than the game, it got review bombed and the forums were still in flames. Then came MotA a DLC that was probably planned from the start so it was also more difficult to call off. Reception? Same as Legacy. And after that nothing... Both DAO and ME2 had far more story DLCs, and it's not that hard to put 2 + 2 together...

You can hold the line as firmly and vigilantly as you want, but in the end the decision will be taken only by EA/Bioware. If they don't trust the DLC to bring in profit they won't do it. And they need to expect LOTS of profit. They will sooner scrap every and any DLC than to throw money at a project overburdened with negative PR, since they can always redirect the resources (the programmers and the designers) to other, new projects.

There are some of us who enjoyed the game in spite of the bad endings. I know this is selfish of me, but please don't f**** up every and any extra content they may have planned for it in your military campaign. :innocent:

Modifié par zsom, 18 mars 2012 - 03:54 .

[Cloud Windfoot Omega]

jmarkows wrote...

animadpig wrote...

Is anyone like me do not want to pay the DLC to fixed the ending if they do release DLC?

This is my thought. We pay USD 60 to buy a incomplete game, and the money what we have paid is based on the cost that they spend to produce the game. And yet, they did not finished the game and sold it to the customers. Now, they release a DLC at the same day they release ME3. I do not agree with the people who want to pay the money for DLC to fix ending. Bioware should face the mistake and take the consequent of the mistake financially. So, I encourage people to tell your friends do not buy ME3 until they complete ME3 and keep the pressure on Bioware/EA to make them release free DLC to complete ME3.

I feel the same way.  I spent $80 on the CE of ME3 (I own the CE of all three games).  I have shelled out quiet enough money between the 3 games and all their DLC; I feel I have spent enough money at this point that I deserve a decent ending that makes sense and brings closure without having to spend more.

Will I buy more ME3 DLC if the ending is fixed?  Absolutely, I'll buy it all.  But I'm not buying anything else Bioware created until we RetakeMassEffect.

Jamie9 wrote...

At the present state, BioWare will not
have my money, in DLC for Dragon Age or Mass Effect or SW:TOR. I will
deliberately go out of my way to tell people how badly this company
screwed up.

If you make an ending that hinges on your choices
through the trilogy, I will buy all subsequent DLC and games that
maintain the quality you have had for the past 8+ years. I will
deliberately go out of my way to tell people how great this company is
and how satisfying their games are.

Hold the line.

Already started doing this, and explaining to people exactly why.  Best analogy I have for people who don't want it spoiled or who have no idea what ME even entails is:

At the end of Lord of the Rings, imagine Frodo throws the One Ring into Mount Doom, and we watch the mountain erupt while he standing on the ledge.  Then, the scene cuts to the Shire, where the other members of the fellowship are waking up, and Gandalf discovers he can no longer use magic.

It's a little rough, but the reactions so far have been universally negative.  I'll take refinements to it if anyone has some ideas.

Hold the line.

mario 2 was a dream. that should be close enough

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

I don't buy from companies who lie to me unless they make it right.
We would not be getting this much spin unless they were afraid of losing us.

Hold the line for as long as it takes people.

[No_MSG]

zsom wrote...

KeldorKatarn wrote...

...

The only viable strategy for you guys is doing
exactly what the other side cannot handle: Keep the pressure up! DON'T fall in
line, don't respond to false offers of peace.
...

I think you are forgetting that "all of this has happened before, and it will all happen again", or in our case it may happen again. DA II already went through this and I'm not sure anyone would call that a victory (for either side).

First we had the review bombing, and all the hate on the forums. And if you recall Bioware's reaction was essentially the same. First silence, then the we are listening give us feedback PR talk, and after a long time they announced the first DLC Legacy. And let's be honest, they did try to fix what they could, they added wardens, changed how mobs spawned, reduced the number of the waves, added new locations etc.

Now I have no idea how much of this was planned before the negative reviews and the decreasing sales but at least some of it was clearly a shot at appeasing the fans.

And did it work? No. Even though Legacy was better than the game, it got review bombed and the forums were still in flames. Then came MotA a DLC that was probably planned from the start so it was also more difficult to call off. Reception? Same as Legacy. And after that nothing... Both DAO and ME2 had far more story DLCs, and it's not that hard to put 2 + 2 together...

You can hold the line as firmly and vigilantly as you want, but in the end the decision will be taken only by EA/Bioware. If they don't trust the DLC to bring in profit they won't do it. And they need to expect LOTS of profit. They will sooner scrap every and any DLC then to throw money at a project overburdened with negative PR, since they can always redirect the resources (the programmers and the designers) to other, new projects.

There are some of us who enjoyed the game in spite of the bad endings. I know this is selfish of me, but please don't f**** up every and any extra content they may have planned for it in your military campaign. :innocent:

I'm not buying DLC in frustration over the endings.  I'm not buying DLC because, unless I have a more satisfying ending, I have no desire to play through the game again.

[Regan Cousland]

Michotic wrote...

I'm all for GOOD speculation. Topics such as:

How will the Krogan act this time around? Will they follow Wrex's ideals and try to live with other species? Or will they try to start another Rebellion?

What will the Geth do? What will happen to Batarian society?

Agreed. These are the kinds of questions fans would be debating with a passion if the ending didn't invalidate every single decision the player makes throughout the campaign. With the Mass Relays gone, galactic civilization is doomed. Nothing we did matters.

Will the Krogan (under Urdnot Wreav in my playthrough) reap revenge upon the Salarians for creating the genophage? Answer: No, because the Krogan that didn't fight the Reapers in the final battle are stuck on Tuchanka. Forever. Lovely.

So, um ... what do we talk about now?  

[DarkGin87]

The Almighty Ali wrote...

Now, A moral boost will always help and while I am Unsure who made this, it sure is something that boosts my resolve in this.

Such a lovely moral boost   thats was better than the official ME3 trailers

[Lichtgestaltt]

Michotic wrote...

I was going to try and keep playing MP as I do find it fun, but what's been said here makes sense. Time to boot up some other games and play something that gives a complete gaming experience.

Same here, I love the MP but I will refrain from playing it.

I also wanted to get some merchandise for M3 but I wont buy that either.

I hope BW will turn this around for a satisfactory outcome for their fans.

Hold the line 

[cyrrant]

zsom wrote...

I think you are forgetting that "all of this has happened before, and it will all happen again", or in our case it may happen again. DA II already went through this and I'm not sure anyone would call that a victory (for either side).

First we had the review bombing, and all the hate on the forums. And if you recall Bioware's reaction was essentially the same. First silence, then the we are listening give us feedback PR talk, and after a long time they announced the first DLC Legacy. And let's be honest, they did try to fix what they could, they added wardens, changed how mobs spawned, reduced the number of the waves, added new locations etc.

Now I have no idea how much of this was planned before the negative reviews and the decreasing sales but at least some of it was clearly a shot at appeasing the fans.

And did it work? No. Even though Legacy was better than the game, it got review bombed and the forums were still in flames. Then came MotA a DLC that was probably planned from the start so it was also more difficult to call off. Reception? Same as Legacy. And after that nothing... Both DAO and ME2 had far more story DLCs, and it's not that hard to put 2 + 2 together...

You can hold the line as firmly and vigilantly as you want, but in the end the decision will be taken only by EA/Bioware. If they don't trust the DLC to bring in profit they won't do it. And they need to expect LOTS of profit. They will sooner scrap every and any DLC then to throw money at a project overburdened with negative PR, since they can always redirect the resources (the programmers and the designers) to other, new projects.

There are some of us who enjoyed the game in spite of the bad endings. I know this is selfish of me, but please don't f**** up every and any extra content they may have planned for it in your military campaign. :innocent:

The reaction to DA2 was not this universal, it was also more structural in nature.  Everyone here loves 99% of the game, how it played, and all that, and DLC of the same quality would be welcomed if the endings are fixed.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I respectfully disagree.  For many of us, the entire game and the two previous were ruined by the ending, and we are distraught at the possibility of having to live with the extremely sub-par one we got.  This was a series I was going to hold up to my future kids as the epitome of how video games were "in my day".  I can't do that any more, because of how bad the ending is.

If there are enough of us (and there are), BW/EA will see that an improved ending will greatly benefit themselves and us.  There have even been calls to fix the reviews that were bombed should Bioware fix the endings.  We don't hate them, we just want them to make it right.

Hold the Line

Modifié par cyrrant, 18 mars 2012 - 03:08 .

[Carnage752]

EVERYONE. IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY REPORT TO THE FACEBOOK PAGE GO THERE. NEW DEVELOPEMENTS FROM THE ADMIN THERE.
http://www.facebook....ngToMassEffect3

[cyrrant]

Carnage752 wrote...

EVERYONE. IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY REPORT TO THE FACEBOOK PAGE GO THERE. NEW DEVELOPEMENTS FROM THE ADMIN THERE.
http://www.facebook....ngToMassEffect3

Their strategy seems sound, though I am wary about the idea of a "store to support the movement".  Unless they're selling things at cost, where does the money go?  We're a grassroots organization with no real overhead, there's no reason to be collecting money from the fan base for our own use unless someone plans to take out ads somewhere.

Hold the Line

[DarkGin87]

vigna wrote...

DarkGin87 wrote...

I just read all the OP and will continue to follow, i didn't realise how the numbers have grown since i got the game on the 9th. Ive stopped playing it

Fear of the ending which i don't know what they are about but im told it could upset me tot he point of breaking my console.
the Importing save issue put me off the game.
the co op is weak it okay if you just want relax time but it will die pretty quickly because the replay value of co op is not rewarding enough.
I did see the weekend PR stunt though and it just made me upset that they try to bribe us

Finish it you really need to undertsand fully.  that is my opinion. if you like it then you are good to go! If not....

If i finish it without MY shepard and the ending dispoints me so much then playing and enjoying the ME games and books will all go in the bin

so i won't move forward till it is in line with what the fans want

[Luiginius]

The paid/free of charge issue is interesting one. Many things to consider.
1. How much longer will the ending continue.
2. Directly related to 1,how much more resources will it take to complete it(voice actors etc.)
3.Lastly, some people have already paid a hefty sum. You guys who bought the collector's edition should really get it for free if it isn't a hugely long dlc. I pre-ordered from origin the game + javik, but wouldn't paying something if it guaranteed better quality.

[Emphyr]

Very informative Thanks.

There is another topic with190 + pages and 70k views. That is issues with the face Import issues started by Chris Priestly in the general no spoilers section.

Many Many ppl have not started playing yet because ME3 is unable to import facial structure. and because due the changes in ME3 are unable to play with the shepard imported from me1 into me2. It cannot be imported in Me3.

most of them are waiting for a fix. from day 1 already. The ony thing bioware typed is that the problem is known and they point to a fan created solution.

Most of all the posters there just didnt start playing. But it is impossible to miss all the endings topics. But most dont read in this spoilers allowed section.

I have to go for work now.. maybe someone can crosspost this complete topic into the No spoilers section because so many ppl that cannot import their shepard are still waiting for a fix and a reaction from Bioware.

I dont know if this was posted in this topic i guess so but i am on page 35 now so much to read still.

Its also PR that Bioware keeps absolutly silence about the Face import bug.

To the TS well done! to Alg you have my respect sir! and yes obviously you caan look in the future
Regards from the Netherlands.

Modifié par Emphyr, 18 mars 2012 - 03:13 .

[Priss Blackburne]

I just hope they realize that "The most Passionate Fans" are the ones that would buy all the DLC that comes out. As it is right now, the Most passionate fans have no intention of buying any.

At Least I don't.

[cyrrant]

DarkGin87 wrote...

vigna wrote...

DarkGin87 wrote...

I just read all the OP and will continue to follow, i didn't realise how the numbers have grown since i got the game on the 9th. Ive stopped playing it

Fear of the ending which i don't know what they are about but im told it could upset me tot he point of breaking my console.
the Importing save issue put me off the game.
the co op is weak it okay if you just want relax time but it will die pretty quickly because the replay value of co op is not rewarding enough.
I did see the weekend PR stunt though and it just made me upset that they try to bribe us

Finish it you really need to undertsand fully.  that is my opinion. if you like it then you are good to go! If not....

If i finish it without MY shepard and the ending dispoints me so much then playing and enjoying the ME games and books will all go in the bin

so i won't move forward till it is in line with what the fans want

Good on you, single-player completion is another statistic they track.  By stopping in the middle and coming here you are doing everything you can to help us hold the line and get the endings our Shepards deserve.

Hold the Line

[Optimus J]

The Almighty Ali wrote...

Now, A moral boost will always help and while I am Unsure who made this, it sure is something that boosts my resolve in this.

Damnit... This video shuld bring shame over the 2 gods of ME that are throwing everything their team and players have brought together over their hubris.
Goes directly to the signature.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

cyrrant wrote...

zsom wrote...

I think you are forgetting that "all of this has happened before, and it will all happen again", or in our case it may happen again. DA II already went through this and I'm not sure anyone would call that a victory (for either side).

First we had the review bombing, and all the hate on the forums. And if you recall Bioware's reaction was essentially the same. First silence, then the we are listening give us feedback PR talk, and after a long time they announced the first DLC Legacy. And let's be honest, they did try to fix what they could, they added wardens, changed how mobs spawned, reduced the number of the waves, added new locations etc.

Now I have no idea how much of this was planned before the negative reviews and the decreasing sales but at least some of it was clearly a shot at appeasing the fans.

And did it work? No. Even though Legacy was better than the game, it got review bombed and the forums were still in flames. Then came MotA a DLC that was probably planned from the start so it was also more difficult to call off. Reception? Same as Legacy. And after that nothing... Both DAO and ME2 had far more story DLCs, and it's not that hard to put 2 + 2 together...

You can hold the line as firmly and vigilantly as you want, but in the end the decision will be taken only by EA/Bioware. If they don't trust the DLC to bring in profit they won't do it. And they need to expect LOTS of profit. They will sooner scrap every and any DLC then to throw money at a project overburdened with negative PR, since they can always redirect the resources (the programmers and the designers) to other, new projects.

There are some of us who enjoyed the game in spite of the bad endings. I know this is selfish of me, but please don't f**** up every and any extra content they may have planned for it in your military campaign. :innocent:

The reaction to DA2 was not this universal, it was also more structural in nature.  Everyone here loves 99% of the game, how it played, and all that, and DLC of the same quality would be welcomed if the endings are fixed.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I respectfully disagree.  For many of us, the entire game and the two previous were ruined by the ending, and we are distraught at the possibility of having to live with the extremely sub-par one we got.  This was a series I was going to hold up to my future kids as the epitome of how video games were "in my day".  I can't do that any more, because of how bad the ending is.

If there are enough of us (and there are), BW/EA will see that an improved ending will greatly benefit themselves and us.  There have even been calls to fix the reviews that were bombed should Bioware fix the endings.  We don't hate them, we just want them to make it right.

Hold the Line

This!  Stick together and we will win.

Hold the line for as long as it takes people.

[Promchek]

NightScream42 wrote... So what exactly bothers you about the ending anyway? From what I took from the ending it paves the way for Mass Effect 4. Being based much further in the future with the child that was with the Stargazer being the new main character of the game. Since correct me if I'm wrong isn't Mass Effect 3 supposed to be Shepards last one? But not generally the end of the series itself?

do you want to know what bothers me with the ending? Sudden change in pace/theme and target audience.

[Delpinolikespotatoes]

This post is the most complete so far and everyone should look a it.

The OP is really great: It shows that we have a long, hard road ahead but that there's still hope to our demmands.

We want more different endings based on your choices with some kind of epilogue which provides a closure that makes sense not only with the saga but also with your character.

I don't think there's an easier way to put our demmands. They are not complicated nor complex in any way.

So keep the pressure up, be polite, don't fall for any traps and... Hold the line!! (You we're waitting for this haha)

[ObsidianAgent]

Just sticking my name on the end here so the folks at BW know I'm paying attention. Ball's in their court and they really ought to do something with it soon.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

cyrrant wrote...

DarkGin87 wrote...

vigna wrote...

DarkGin87 wrote...

I just read all the OP and will continue to follow, i didn't realise how the numbers have grown since i got the game on the 9th. Ive stopped playing it

Fear of the ending which i don't know what they are about but im told it could upset me tot he point of breaking my console.
the Importing save issue put me off the game.
the co op is weak it okay if you just want relax time but it will die pretty quickly because the replay value of co op is not rewarding enough.
I did see the weekend PR stunt though and it just made me upset that they try to bribe us

Finish it you really need to undertsand fully.  that is my opinion. if you like it then you are good to go! If not....

If i finish it without MY shepard and the ending dispoints me so much then playing and enjoying the ME games and books will all go in the bin

so i won't move forward till it is in line with what the fans want

Good on you, single-player completion is another statistic they track.  By stopping in the middle and coming here you are doing everything you can to help us hold the line and get the endings our Shepards deserve.

Hold the Line

Yes as someone who feels like they had $80 from them I would like to thank everyone who has joined the movement and say how greatful I am that you are sticking with it.  The presure hasn't reach tipping point yet so we will not get an answer after one wekk. Please stick with it till the end.

Hold the line for as long as it takes people.

[stargatefan1990]

DoctorCrowtgamer wrote...

cyrrant wrote...

zsom wrote...

I think you are forgetting that "all of this has happened before, and it will all happen again", or in our case it may happen again. DA II already went through this and I'm not sure anyone would call that a victory (for either side).

First we had the review bombing, and all the hate on the forums. And if you recall Bioware's reaction was essentially the same. First silence, then the we are listening give us feedback PR talk, and after a long time they announced the first DLC Legacy. And let's be honest, they did try to fix what they could, they added wardens, changed how mobs spawned, reduced the number of the waves, added new locations etc.

Now I have no idea how much of this was planned before the negative reviews and the decreasing sales but at least some of it was clearly a shot at appeasing the fans.

And did it work? No. Even though Legacy was better than the game, it got review bombed and the forums were still in flames. Then came MotA a DLC that was probably planned from the start so it was also more difficult to call off. Reception? Same as Legacy. And after that nothing... Both DAO and ME2 had far more story DLCs, and it's not that hard to put 2 + 2 together...

You can hold the line as firmly and vigilantly as you want, but in the end the decision will be taken only by EA/Bioware. If they don't trust the DLC to bring in profit they won't do it. And they need to expect LOTS of profit. They will sooner scrap every and any DLC then to throw money at a project overburdened with negative PR, since they can always redirect the resources (the programmers and the designers) to other, new projects.

There are some of us who enjoyed the game in spite of the bad endings. I know this is selfish of me, but please don't f**** up every and any extra content they may have planned for it in your military campaign. :innocent:

The reaction to DA2 was not this universal, it was also more structural in nature.  Everyone here loves 99% of the game, how it played, and all that, and DLC of the same quality would be welcomed if the endings are fixed.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I respectfully disagree.  For many of us, the entire game and the two previous were ruined by the ending, and we are distraught at the possibility of having to live with the extremely sub-par one we got.  This was a series I was going to hold up to my future kids as the epitome of how video games were "in my day".  I can't do that any more, because of how bad the ending is.

If there are enough of us (and there are), BW/EA will see that an improved ending will greatly benefit themselves and us.  There have even been calls to fix the reviews that were bombed should Bioware fix the endings.  We don't hate them, we just want them to make it right.

Hold the Line

This!  Stick together and we will win.

Hold the line for as long as it takes people.

This and i am holding the Line!