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[IndustrializedTaco]

Carnage752 wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

Arctic Silence wrote...

This seems ironic to me that they basically gave us a handbook on how to diplomatically gather forces for a single cause with this game, and we're forced to use it against them due to their mistakes (if you share my opinion of course)

We are the fleets.

They are the reapers.

That means this movement is going to end in 3 colors and the destruction of all civilization.

LETS CHOOSE DESTROY! I never liked the idea of control, or synthesis.

But blue is so pretty....

Remember blue was a total cop out.

What? Sorry I was looking at Liara what was the question?

<_< Of course.

[Irishkev]

Very good read.

I have no problem with the 3 choice ending I don't but it just feels out of place and the cinematics also feel out of place. Espically with the plot holes and the grinning faces of your crew trapped on the planet.

I mean ok shepard died but even in ME2 we got a better ending than that. His crew died he died joker saying he wasn't going to let him go and lose him again and shepard saying you have to. You have they get these files to the allaince. Then TIM saying shepeard died and served his purpose getting these files and we see harbinger coming we knew what was next.

This ME3 ending don't care what chocie you pick its the same issues joker in a different system fleeing the battel? Why? your squad on the ship as well. I could go into more but why type it when I can show you the issues I have this guy hits the issues witht the ending on the head.

http://angryjoeshow....fect-3s-ending/

and it is a shame because I was expecting not a great ending but something like DA:O

Modifié par Irishkev, 18 mars 2012 - 11:03 .

[Carnage752]

Hydralysk wrote...

Just submitted this to CBC.

"Bioware (canadian video game developer) recently released a game call Mass Effect 3. If you've heard of Mass Effect 3 game recently it's probably because of the contreversy surrounding the ending. I won't go into details but the way the game ended was completely opposite to the way it was advertised in the media. The best you could say is that if it wasn't technically lying it was intentionally misleading. Fans of the series have started a movement called Retake Mass Effect, calling for endings that fall in line with what was promised. Our movement has over 35,000 members on facebook, our repeated pleas have made @MassEffect one of the most active twitter accounts ever, we've organized a letter writing campaign, and in order to make sure SOME good comes out of it all we have organized a charity drive that has at this moment raised over $64,500 (USD) for sick children. I could give you more information if you'll contact me over email."

If you can, try submitting a similar article to whatever local/nationwide news station(s) you can even if you don't think they'll bite. It only takes a minute but the more people who submit these kinds of stories the bigger chance one of these outlets will run with them. Even if they won't listen to one person, if they recieve many similar submissions their curiosity could very well kick in.

Hold the line, but don't stay passive people. Do what you can to make people aware, the more attention we can get the better. Do it for the ending we ALL know Shepard deserves.

On it! Way to take iniative!

[Lil One]

A bit of laughter while holding the line:




From here:

http://social.biowar.../index/10111713


I know I needed that.

[MajorUhlan]

aznsoisauce wrote...

MajorUhlan wrote...

Just watched Joe's video, and while it could have been more concise, he made all the right points, outlined massive holes, and I love the sequence showing all three Red, Blue, Green ending cinematics.

Dirty pool, old man. Dirty pool.

My favorite part had to be when he played the clip of the Geth talking to Admiral Shala'Raan several times.

Oh yeah! That one was precious too! Particularly because of the morale implications of the destroy choice when Shepard (my Shepard at least) worked so hard to unite synthetics and organics. Joe explains it perfectly why the synergy ending isn't appropriate either - that homogeny is not unification of wholly different peoples.

edit: typo which seriously affected the meaning of a sentence.

Modifié par MajorUhlan, 18 mars 2012 - 11:05 .

[Noatz]

Jamie9 wrote...

"If Joker was traveling fast enough to outrun the wave transmitted through the Mass Relay, he must also have been traveling through a Mass Relay.

Meaning the point at which the Normandy emerged would be in a star system occupied by a Mass Relay. Since the wave was just behind the Normandy, the Mass Relay would have exploded almost immediately after the Normady arrived in the system. It could not have crash-landed on a planet because the resulting explosion would have wiped out both the Normandy and the entire star system. The scene depicting the crew emerging onto a planet is impossible."

This never occurred to me. If possible, I dislike the ending to ME3 slightly more than I did before reading this.

Bah.

Our choices should matter: Hold the Line.

And you know what, I can add to this.

If he was passing through a Mass Relay, the system the Normany would emerge in would be Arcturus. It is stated in the codex or planet description somewhere that this is where the Sol Relay connects to. It is why the Alliance built Arcturus station and made their headquarters there.

There are no habitable planets in the Arcturus system.

[svnhf]

This thread is so very important. Great work by atghunter and others. I support this. Hold the line!

[Regan Cousland]

Carnage752 wrote...

Regan Cousland wrote...

Waning numbers here in the forums don't mean that the RetakeME3 movement is failing. Once players have said everything they want to say about the endings, it's inevitable that the frequency of posts will decline and our collective interest in the topic will wane and wander.

The important thing is that everybody *remembers* how dissatisefed they were with ME3's ending in a few weeks or months time when BioWare start trying to sell us DLCs, MP content and other sundry merchandise we don't want. So go ahead and do something else with your time, but remember to Hold the Line once more before you open your wallet for EA.

We are not done yet bud!

The only reason I made that comment is because some people seem to think we've failed if BioWare doesn't make an official announcement soon, but that isn't the case. If the consumers present a united front, they're the ones in control here.

I'd also like to add that I, like all the true BioWare fans, hate having to harass my all-time favourite games developer in this manner. Unfortunately for them they're paying the price for setting such high standards. If this were any other game or any other company I'd shelve my disappointment and go straight to a competitor, but nobody out there comes close to competing with BioWare ... when they're on their usual form.

Modifié par Regan Cousland, 18 mars 2012 - 11:13 .

[Fallenfromthesky]

Sarah Aran wrote...

See, here I must respectfuly disagree. I have seen all the evidence of the fact Tali's face is infact a stock photo with alterations, yet, does this really take any emphasis out of her beauty? No. I can't see it that way. It's not something that could have been rushed. A deliberate effort had to be made at some point to decide how a quarian should look, what skin tone, her eyes. If infact it was one lone artist with a large pot of coffee and an all nighter that lead to the image of her face, I salute them for having an incredible imagination. But I'm straying from the point I'm trying to make.

It's beautiful, touching, and resolves the mystery in the case that she does die at that point in the story. But if she's still alive, then with that romance, the mystery should remail alive aswell, in my humble opinion.

I confess that little things like this, understatements if you will, they move me alot more that big sweeping gestures.

Edit: I just saw the video. That is damned creepy. I really want to believe its a coincidence, but its a damned creepy one!

I can see where you are coming from and i know a fair few people (including me) are slightly disappionted with Talis face but ultimately its a little quibble as for me Tali will always be my little masked Quarian and she probaly should remain maked and mysterious.

Personally saying goodbye to Tali at Hammer when she was wearing the mask touched me much more than the little photo of her unmasked

lore should retain some mysteries the Entwives in Lord of the Rings apparently not even Tolkien knew where they had gone

[kegNeggs]

some guy or other said

But this... is something else entirely..


If only free support for a great band.

but the similarities are uncanny..

Modifié par kegNeggs, 18 mars 2012 - 11:09 .

[MeldarthX]

Baineblade wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

Baineblade wrote...

I have to be honest with you all. I can't hold the line anymore. I want to advance, and I want to keep advancing. I take a lot of my philosophy from many people throughout history, and one of those people was the man who made the following quote:

"Now there's another thing I want you to remember. I don't want to get any messages saying that "we are holding our position." We're not holding anything. Let the Hun do that. We are advancing constantly and we're not interested in holding onto anything except the enemy. We're going to hold onto him by the nose and we're going to kick him in the ass. We're going to kick the hell out of him all the time and we're going to go through him like crap through a goose!" -General George S. Patton, Commanding Officer, Third Army Group, United States Armed Forces Europe.

In many ways sitting on the defensive is all well and good, you always have the advantage against the attack, but you apply constant and unrelenting pressure upon your enemy, their defenses will become moot, begin to crumble, and soon they'll either be in full retreat, or will surrender. At this point, we can no longer just "hold the line". We MUST as a matter of survival and to bring about an eventual end to this internet conflict, advance, and keep building the pressure, keep forcing the issue into the light, at no point should we, as Patton himself stated, report in that we're holding our position. Let EA and Bioware do that.

The statement is just a symbol. We have been on the offensive for quite awhile.

"On the offensive" to a limited point, so far the BSN forums have been flooded, the story is only now getting headline news coverage, and people are only just beginning to build the momentum up more and more.  The pressure in truth needs to be increased near ten fold.  Mailing campaigns, word of mouth, all the recent suggestions of getting the word out, need to be increased ten fold.  Email every tech gaming website out there, show them what's going on, how large the community actually is, get the message out there, and more will come.  
Yet, be reasonable, dont make assumptions that just because people are starting to come round that we're winning.  This battle is FAR from finished and it's barely begun, start cranking out flyers and going to your local game stores, ask the manager to read it over and if you can post it in their window or at their front desk.  If they don't want you to do such, then thank them for their time and look elsewhere to get the message out.  Facebook and Child's play have been good starts, but the message hasn't gone out as far as most would hope.

I know people are trying to get of the Daily show and Colbert Report - in the UK several are writing the newspapers along with BBC - ITV - we have another that knows Johnathon Ross - TV presenter and big ME fan - along with Vin Diseal*sp* they are getting ahold of them to get their take and present our case.

We're now hitting main stream news - not just as a side note but full on stories.  Fox, CNN, MSNBC - Forbes keeps writing articles in our favor.

We keep things civil; respectable - I've played every single BW game out there - there is some DLC I don't own; but will gladly buy if they fix this.  I'm subbed to TOR - which I will end unless this is resolved with a expanded ending.

I am very much invested; repeat customer of BW and EA - I want to get Kindoms of An*sp* I'm hearing great things about it.......along with Synidicate - I loved the original.  I can't though and won't.  BW won't get anymore nor will EA - I have a lot of friends who are just about to beat this game and they are going what did I just see?  What ending was that??  That makes no sense......

I WILL HOLD THE LINE - as the IDEA for multiplayer - I will create a character or a few that say - Expand the Ending - HOLD THE LINE - spread the word that way - We are here for the long term.  Lots are saying well people will get bored and move on.  I don't think so this time - there is too much love for this universe - too much time - we've invested ourselves into these stories and helped create them.

BW has show they will listen - allowing Garrus and Tali to be romancable from ME2 - they have changed and fixed cannon in their book - Despection.  I have hope - I know at times when working on a project  as a writer it can be hard to take hard criticism - but to be a good/great writer you need to know when to listen.  Then go you know - you're right lets do this.

Some of the most famous authors have rewritten their works or changed them - Shakespear was known for it - took fans 10 years; but they got Sherlock back.......

We're not the first to be here; nor will we be the last - but we're are changing the rules and writing what will happen.  Continue the push; Continue to HOLD THE LINE.

Most of all; be excellent to each other -

[Boceephus]

Lil One wrote...

A bit of laughter while holding the line:




From here:

http://social.biowar.../index/10111713


I know I needed that.

That video was fantastic! Thanks for sharing!

[Luiginius]

Getting this to the Daily Show or to Colber Report would be sweet.

Modifié par Luiginius, 18 mars 2012 - 11:20 .

[Meytiuy]

Regan Cousland wrote...

Waning numbers here in the forums don't mean that the RetakeME3 movement is failing. Once players have said everything they want to say about the endings, it's inevitable that the frequency of posts will decline and our collective interest in the topic will wane and wander.

The important thing is that everybody *remembers* how dissatisefed they were with ME3's ending in a few weeks or months time when BioWare start trying to sell us DLCs, MP content and other sundry merchandise we don't want. So go ahead and do something else with your time, but remember to Hold the Line once more before you open your wallet for EA.

Truth. I'm not much of a talker (typer?), and a thousand other people could say things more eloquently and meaningfully than I could. But just because I'm not posting, doesn't mean I'm not on this forums at least once a day getting back up to speed with where the community, and EA, is at with this movement.

I may not be on the front line, but holding it, I am.

[Bekkael]

I've been avidly following this thread since its creation. Just popping in to lend my support. ME3 definitely needs an ending worthy of the franchise. I beat the game ten days ago, and I am still reeling from the shock of it, and I was part of the spoiler group for months and knew (mostly) what to expect. Nothing can prepare you for the actual experience of the ending silliness though. Nothing.

If the ending isn't fixed, I can't, in good conscience, continue to be a BioWare customer and purchase any future DLC or other games they may make. I cannot and will not pay for non-sensical storytelling and a painful emotional experience. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice... Well, you know how it goes. 

I'm glad to see the decent and civil discussion going on here.

[Jamie9]

Noatz wrote...

Jamie9 wrote...

"If Joker was traveling fast enough to outrun the wave transmitted through the Mass Relay, he must also have been traveling through a Mass Relay.

Meaning the point at which the Normandy emerged would be in a star system occupied by a Mass Relay. Since the wave was just behind the Normandy, the Mass Relay would have exploded almost immediately after the Normady arrived in the system. It could not have crash-landed on a planet because the resulting explosion would have wiped out both the Normandy and the entire star system. The scene depicting the crew emerging onto a planet is impossible."

This never occurred to me. If possible, I dislike the ending to ME3 slightly more than I did before reading this.

Bah.

Our choices should matter: Hold the Line.

And you know what, I can add to this.

If he was passing through a Mass Relay, the system the Normany would emerge in would be Arcturus. It is stated in the codex or planet description somewhere that this is where the Sol Relay connects to. It is why the Alliance built Arcturus station and made their headquarters there.

There are no habitable planets in the Arcturus system.

No! That's even worse! AND I've just realized that since the Normandy is only just escaping the blast, Joker and co. are escaping about 1 second before you sacrifice yourself.

So every time you sacrifice yourself, remember that your closest loved ones and friends are running away from you and everything you stand for!

Our choices should matter: Hold the Line.

[dChronologer]

Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...

We want:


1: a variety of endings, the choice amongst these based on previous choices 
2: Our crew, and the species of our fleet, to have a role to play in those endings
3: The variety of endings to scale from happy to sad and bittersweet, with a multitude of options in between
4: if the present finale is kept, to explain any discrepancies between it and the rest of the game.

I strongly agree with the first three in this list.

Our choices should matter.  I do not think the current endings should be taken away from people who enjoyed them and wanted to play to that type of conclusion.  However; I also do not think the rest of us should be excluded from being able to play towards one of several conclusions that would be most satisfying for us as players and make the most sense for our own particular Shepards.  I imagine that people who do enjoy the ending as it stands would be quite upset if the option for that particular outcome was taken away from them, and then they were given one which they found unacceptable, and finally, told to just deal with it.

Maybe we are a little bit angry at being excluded, but mostly we are fustrated and profoundly hurt because we all have come to love Mass Effect so much.  I can not help but feel that if we were talking about this type of thing happening to Star Wars, Star Trek, etc, (absolutely no insult intended) that our claims would be granted instant validity merely because those franchises have been around for 30 + years.  

Our Choices Should Matter:  Hold the Line!

[Fallenfromthesky]

Found an interesting article sounds like something might be happening

http://www.vg247.com...nding-concerns/

Hold the Line and we may win this

[Fulgrim88]

dChronologer wrote...

Our Choices Should Matter:  Hold the Line!

Something along these lines seems like a good slogan, actually.

I remember some PR-guy talking about how we need one, seeing as "Hold the line" conveys no actual message

[InsaneNarwhal]

Fallenfromthesky wrote...

Found an interesting article sounds like something might be happening

http://www.vg247.com...nding-concerns/

Hold the Line and we may win this

Still not directly addressing us. But if that's all true it's some progress at least.

[Fallenfromthesky]

InsaneNarwhal wrote...

Fallenfromthesky wrote...

Found an interesting article sounds like something might be happening

http://www.vg247.com...nding-concerns/

Hold the Line and we may win this

Still not directly addressing us. But if that's all true it's some progress at least.

To bring down a mountain a tiny crack needs to form

[cyrrant]

Hey guys, it's great to see that the energy on these boards hasn't waned at all since Friday. I might recommend that everyone try to save their strength, though. Tomorrow will be a trial-by-fire for the movement as the media's picked up on us a little and it's the start of the work week. We should each lend our voices in a deafening call tomorrow, and show Bioware that attempting to placate us with PR nothings will not suffice.

If you have a job, post before you leave for work. If you're in school, post before, during, and after if you can. If not, keep holding the line for the rest of us that will be trapped in corporate drudgery, and trust that I will be frantically trying to get signal on my phone so I can keep track of what's going on.

I'm kind of tempted to put a thread out tomorrow morning along the lines of "why" we're so determined to see new endings. Think of your reasons, hopefully it will be one hell of a Monday.

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line!

Modifié par cyrrant, 18 mars 2012 - 11:27 .

[MajorUhlan]

Fallenfromthesky wrote...

Found an interesting article sounds like something might be happening

http://www.vg247.com...nding-concerns/

Hold the Line and we may win this

I am fairly certain that is the same interview Hudson had on Friday. No new direct conversations related to the movement have been discussed as of yet, by Bioware, to my knowledge.

Still, you are right - a very interesting article, and interesting to see how vg247 spins the information. Wag the Dog.

[Xellith]

I cannot say for certain - however that IGN video by Colin Moriarty giving an overzealous opinion on us gamers seems to be down/removed.

[MatronAdena]

still remain skeptical, don't let off the pressure don't let any attempts to sway opinions and weaken the line, there is plenty of PR babble to do just that. It's good to see progress, it's good to see acknowledgment, It's good to know it's being felt in a way that matters, but it's not over, we can't THINK it's almost over remotely or we can fall apart and go to becoming non-issues tyhan can get dismissed. When it's more concrete in a way that can't be backed out on, THEN we can see about giving more breathing room, but that day has yet come.