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[OneWithTheAssassins]

Is there anyone here from Boston who can go to PAX to help represent up?

[Janus382]

Enichan wrote...

I have a practical question. So far I've donated to Child's Play, replied to the suggestions thread, and cancelled my SWTOR account, and I'm not playing any ME of any flavour until further notice. But what else can I do, besides keep posting here every now and again?

Post in the feedback thread, if you haven't already done so.  Fire off some e-mails to BioWare, or gaming publications that fail to make mention of the ending... while being respectful, of course.

[Enichan]

I'm willing to go to lengths to help the cause, but flying out to Boston from Europe is a bit much even for me/ME. >_>

[OneWithTheAssassins]

Enichan wrote...

I'm willing to go to lengths to help the cause, but flying out to Boston from Europe is a bit much even for me/ME. >_>

Oh, then yeah Twitter and Facebook are fine.

[Carnage752]

When is PAX?

[JustinS1985]

Just saw this over on gamefaqs and had to post it here lol

https://i.minus.com/iYh3OKeN7xfLq.jpg

[Flamewielder]

As a starter, simply pospone buying ME3 DLC or ME3 apps until the endings are "fixed". This has immediate financial impact and is therefore more effective than a vague promise to foreswear future Bioware products.

You, as a consumer, decide what's worth buying and what you'll leave on the shelf. Bioware has already spent development money on apps like Infiltrator, and likely on some of the upcoming DLC. It's in their best interest to make these products attractive again.

If a 5-10 minute "Endings" DLC can provide alternative endings that are more fulfilling, all the ME3 spin-offs suddenly become attractive again.

[Thornne]

I would be very surprised if Bioware doesn't cancel any live panel / presentation they had planned for PAX. The only way I can imagine them going ahead with it is if they have something really solid to say about a replacement ending.

At the very least they're going to have someone (the PA guys?) come on first and ask you not to be mean to the panel.

[Nadtsat]

I just woke up (middle of the night here in western europe) and my first thoughts were about the endings of mass effect 3. I possibly was dreaming about it too. This affected me very deeply and I find solace in the unity we find here.

Our choices should matter: hold the line!

Modifié par Nadtsat, 19 mars 2012 - 12:32 .

[vigna]

One of the earlier posters made me think of a review tactic that may be helpful. When reviewing the game or giving feedback on it....instead of going into a crazy diatribe and huge post-be concise. I'd rather Bioware hear my top reasoned and rational 3-4 complaints, and read my thoughts than have them kinda gloss over/ie skip a 1,500 word essay on story structure and metaphysics.

That's my 2 cents.

[Stygian1]

Hold the Line

[InsaneNarwhal]

Thornne wrote...

I would be very surprised if Bioware doesn't cancel any live panel / presentation they had planned for PAX. The only way I can imagine them going ahead with it is if they have something really solid to say about a replacement ending.

At the very least they're going to have someone (the PA guys?) come on first and ask you not to be mean to the panel.

We're not mean. We're just really loud. 

[akawa106]

it's probably been said but i just recently found this petition page http://www.change.or...cebook_friends#

things like this seem like a step in the right direction
holding the line

[Bigdoser]

JustinS1985 wrote...

Just saw this over on gamefaqs and had to post it here lol

https://i.minus.com/iYh3OKeN7xfLq.jpg

lol that pic is full of win. 

[mumwaldee369]

When are gamers going to start buying gaming studio's stocks?  Reminds me of that Japanese guy that dumped $26 million worth of Square Enix's stock when he saw what a tragedy the Final Fantasy mmo was.


http://www.pcgamer.c...of-the-company/

[OneWithTheAssassins]

Carnage752 wrote...

When is PAX?

April 6-8 in Boston.

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

I was actually looking at the stock trends on Google today. EA's stock is up, and BioWare's trading symbol is "private."

[Necrotron]

On lunch break, must HOLD THE LINE!

[Hydralysk]

Bigdoser wrote...

JustinS1985 wrote...

Just saw this over on gamefaqs and had to post it here lol

https://i.minus.com/iYh3OKeN7xfLq.jpg

lol that pic is full of win. 

It's sad how well that works.

[vigna]

Enichan wrote...

I have a practical question. So far I've donated to Child's Play, replied to the suggestions thread, and cancelled my SWTOR account, and I'm not playing any ME of any flavour until further notice. But what else can I do, besides keep posting here every now and again?

keep clicking on positive article links and  by visting the actual sites of the writers. When on google...google phrases like mass effect 3 bad ending, retake mass effect 3, and then click on those stories if it looks like they are relevant to the casue. write a physical letter to EA and Bioware. Bump relevant topics by saying hold the line if they fall into page 2 or 3 and let spam threads fall by not making replies on them. Keep staying informed here and at the facebook page...

That's some...

Modifié par vigna, 19 mars 2012 - 12:47 .

[animadpig]

Enichan wrote...

I have a practical question. So far I've donated to Child's Play, replied to the suggestions thread, and cancelled my SWTOR account, and I'm not playing any ME of any flavour until further notice. But what else can I do, besides keep posting here every now and again?

Return your ME3 to the store! This is the most strong protest you can do to Bioware and EA.

[Cassielle]

Hydralysk wrote...

Bigdoser wrote...

JustinS1985 wrote...

Just saw this over on gamefaqs and had to post it here lol

https://i.minus.com/iYh3OKeN7xfLq.jpg

lol that pic is full of win. 

It's sad how well that works.

I really just thought "Ouuuuch" but it really works so well. >_>

[LinksOcarina]

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Let me rephrase.
Who is up to take actual action on Bioware and let our acual voices be heared by them at PAX East instead of posting "Hold the line" no matter how grand it is and HOPEING Bioware will see?
PAX East Platoon social.bioware.com/group/7049/

You do this. You will lose.

The minute someone barges into that panel acting like an unruly protestor negates your whole movement. Just a fair warning.

[vigna]

FreakyProphet wrote...

Here's an update from international game retail chain Game in Sweden: they recently sent out an offer to all subscribers to their email news channel to buyback the game at very near the original retail price from anyone who feels like they've already had enough of it. If that's not a clear statement and warning to Bioware, and IMO even more, EA, to stop ****ing around and get their **** together, I don't know what is.

Indeed, I consider Electronic Arts, much more than Bioware, to be the main culprit in this drama. I have seen many smaller game development studios that used to possess a strong creative vision and to put pride in their work, after being acquired by EA, suddenly starting to churn out nothing but bull**** excuses for games on a regular basis. A long-time fan of the old Ultima series of RPGs, I remember with particular bile EA:s acquisition of Origin Systems (the development studio that made the Ultima games) which eventually led to the death of the company and the franchise, and it wasn't a pretty demise either. What has Bioware produced since switching to EA as publisher? ME2 (good, although certainly designed to cater to a much larger audience than the original ME), DA2 (rushed, with a forced style of gameplay and ending, also designed to cater to action-oriented gamers as much as hardcore roleplayers, unlike its predecessor), SWToR (can't really comment on the quality of this product as I've not tried it nor intend to as things currently stand), and now ME3 (no comment needed). It seems obvious to me that EA has a very unfortunate (and, in the long term certainly nonprofitable) habit of forcing several practices on the game studios they deal with, the 2 most fatal being:

1. Design to cater to as large an audience within the global gaming community as possible, even at the cost of selling out a franchise's very soul and everything that defined it. In every single instance I have witnessed where EA suddenly takes over an existing franchise this pattern has been painfully obvious. Hardcore RPG:s become more action-oriented at the expense of roleplaying elements. This happened to the Ultima series upon EA:s acquisition of Origin Systems, and it happened to the Mass Effect franchise beginning with ME2 (which although admittedly being an excellent game, was noticeably more FPS and less RPG than the original Mass Effect).

2. Rushing in order to satisfy fiscal bookkeeping, once again at the expense of quality and even the possible cost of selling out the very soul of franchises. Once again I recognize the pattern from DA2 and ME3 in the case of the Ultima series, most notably the concluding chapter of that series, Ultima IX. In this case, EA forced Origin to release an underdeveloped, bug-ridden mess of a game that in the end was such an unworthy conclusion to the franchise that the protests resulting from the release were initially comparable to the RetakeME3 in force. Lacking the coherence and efficient communication that we now have access to, however, the protests quickly lost momentum in that instance, allowing EA to get away cleanly to pull the same ****ing **** all over again on other companies and their fans. They are in my eyes mostly reminiscent of a locust swarm that takes over companies, consumes their very soul and leave them empty husks. They have now gotten to the Mass Effect franchise and are attempting to pull their **** all over again. I have to wonder, though, if they will get away with it this time, for the first time faced with such vocal, coordinated and massive opposition. Indeed, the parallells one might draw to the Reapers vs. the Galactic Alliance of Mass Effect are numerous. I have to wonder if we will allow EA:s tyrannizing of and preying on the games industry to continue or if we will

hold the line

i hate that that may prove to be true........

[Leland Gaunt]

Hey Guys!

I just registrated ME 3 so I could post here.
I've been around the forum for some time now but merely as spectator. This will be my first post.

First of all, I find it great that so many people care about the franchise I I came to adore over the course of the three games. Frankly, I've never been so crazy about a series of videogames (with the exception of the Fallout Series).
I would count myself in with the older gamers around here in the forum since I'm actually old enough to have bought and play Bioware games since BG1. I always adored their games and played every single one of them more then a few times. Just loving them. And I do love ME 3. The gaming experience I had on my first playthrough (which I finished just yesterday) was amazing. Walking in on every former member of my crew (couldn't bear to loose either one of them), seeing them playing minor, major and every parts in between, contributing to the mission. The sound effects and ingame-videos are some of the best I ever had the pleasure to experience. The contributions made to the already vast, but dense lore revealed amazing facts: EDI being the rogue Luna A.I., Legion being first geth to take up arms against their creators after asking the soul question, stuff like that. The whole game felt like it was the last stand the universe could take before total extinction, I was motivated all the time. I felt sick when Mordin sacrificed himself because "somebody else could have gotten it wrong", proud when Wrex called my Shepard "brother", sick and ultimately relieved when Grunt tore his way through rachni husks, sad when Shepard prayed with Koylat in front of Thane's dead body, glad that Liara finally said those three words to my Shepard when he needed them because he was only one step away from getting insane and incredibly vengeful when I started "Priority: Earth". Finally I could take up my arms to stick it to the reapers and the illusive man. THe whole felt like relieving, I was glad Shepard finally made and took all possible precautions over the course of many hundred hours of a space odyssey. I was ready to blow the reapers back to darkspace, break the cycle, deak high-fives with Garrus while having a rnycol with Wrex and Grunt, then take Liara and ride into the sunset.

But then everything turned out to be insanely different in a unbelievable manner in a matter of 5 minutes. What the hell was going on? Weird spacechild god-A.I. babbling nonsense without my Shepard having the opportunity of a renegade interrupt to "blast that virtual ass into actual dust", just stupidly asking question like some imbecile. Weird black tentacles roaming my screen, voices from everywhere. After I realized that my choices were very limited with insanely stupid consequences without regarding ANYTHING of all the preparation work I had done except EMS due to being indoctrinated, hallucinating or going insane, I reluctantly walked towards the weird device and destroyed the reapers. After the following scenes not giving the slightest feeling of achievement of success a weird old man appears in front of a scene which appears to be copy and pasted from google images telling his grandson stories of some "Shepard". After that credits roll with the polite invitation to buy future dlc.... WHAT THE HELL?? What just happened? I couldn't figure it out. I'm still dazzled by this experience and I'm still not sure if I should believe what I saw. This couldn't be it, could it? This is how James Shepard, Spacer and War Hero, Hero of the Citadel, Defender of Saren, Defeater of the Collectors, the man who blew up and entire solar system should end? And what about everyone else? Why is everybody trapped in the Sol System? Where did my companions go, what happened to them?

Man, I was disappointed like hell. I've never felt so burnt out after a game. No sense of accomplishment whatsoever. Still can't get over it.
I'm sorry this post became such a wall of text, but I wanted to explain and describe my experience of the ending so many people are disappointed about. Now I'm one of them. Now I need to get in the line and hold it.
I think it's really great what you people accomplished until now, never thought something like this was possible. I'll try and contribute by getting the word out. But I think you guys will be glad to hear that in Germany and the Netherlands (where I reside) the issue has already hit serious media. Here's the link to an article by the german newspaper "Die Zeit": www.zeit.de/digital/games/2012-03/mass-effect-3-ende-protest

So, I'm going to stuff it now, already is too much text.
Keep it you guys!