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Tyrannis Vos

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Skyblade012 wrote...

Tyrannis Vos wrote...

Skyblade012 wrote...
Check the thread that just went up, and its link. BioWare's facebook page just stated that they have no intention of changing the ending at this time.
IE: Our efforts thus far have been worthless.


Honestly, I'm slow. Can you just provide me with a link? I'm trying to watch The Walking Dead and talk to my wife at the same time.

Also, I really don't think that means we've done nothing and we no longer have a chance. They can't ignore this.

crimsontotem wrote...
what is this? https://www.facebook...275176599224397


I really don't think it's a good idea to pay attention to rumors. That looked pretty legit when it first popped up, but the Battlemaster and Justicar just make it look fake.

https://www.facebook...275176599224397

You'll have to view previous comments, there are a lot of responses already.  But that's the page.


People are saying it has been taken down, so I guess that's why I couldn't see it. Thanks for the help though!

Either way, it means nothing. They're still watching. They will continue watching.

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Vap0ur_Snake wrote...

 Hello, I've been waiting to post on this thread for days now but I initially signed up with the wrong address and had to wait a further 24 hours. 

Let me start by saying that I bought Mass Effect 3 on the day it came out. I'd been waiting months for it and had pre ordered it at a local independent store. 
When I got the game, instead of playing it right away I decided to start again at the beginning and play through all three of the games. So I set out on a paragon path, spent roughly around 35/40 hours on each game. The first, the story is amamazing, game mechanics a rubbish. The second, amazing story continued and the mechanics were a dream too, pretty much the pinnacle of gaming (which is what I thought when it first came out too) so I finally get to Mass Effect 3 and I'm completely blown away by the level of detail in this game, the levels are probably the best I've ever seen. I found myself just stopping playing and watching Reapers destroy everything, to say the least I was very impressed. Then as start to get into the story I cure the Genophage but at the expense of one of my favourite characters, Was a tear in my eye as he was singing Gilbert and Sullivan just before the explosion took him out, astounding stuff. I also let Leigon upload the reaper code and uplift his people an also unite the Geth and the Quarians I'd really come to love the Geth after meeting Leigon, he's such a good character (the N7 plate, I bellive there was more to that than just repair, he admires Shepard so was a bit disappointed I never heard any more on that) so was more heartache to see him go, but again it was for the greater good, there were a lot more sacrifices to be made yet but I was in for the long haul. 
So skipping forward to London, best level design yet, fully immersed, said good bye to all my crew and was promised I was gonna get 'laid' off jack, make my way to final assault, it's all breath taking stuff but the  when I meet the catalyst it all starts to get a bit strange. Now I have no problem with his explanation of the reapers but I do feel that the endings were pure rubbish, I was left with a feeling that I couldn't place so I ce online to see what others though. I was blown Away by the Amount of people's that felt the same way as me. 

Its so great that we're all together and not standing for this. 

HOLD THE LINE


indeed!

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EA has been vocal about how games are BUSINESS not ART, so the endings cannot be excused by pointing at artistic licence.

This game was falsely advertised and represented, constituting a clear breach of ethical business practice and the laws governing consumer issues in many countries.

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guys bioware confirmed that no ending dlc will come :|

http://social.biowar...4105/1#10224276

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Don't let a deleted Facebook comment shake you guys. Hold their feet to the fire, and they'll bend. The fact that they had to pull that comment is proof enough that we're having an impact.

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Skyblade012 wrote...

Tyrannis Vos wrote...

Skyblade012 wrote...
Check the thread that just went up, and its link. BioWare's facebook page just stated that they have no intention of changing the ending at this time.
IE: Our efforts thus far have been worthless.


Honestly, I'm slow. Can you just provide me with a link? I'm trying to watch The Walking Dead and talk to my wife at the same time.

Also, I really don't think that means we've done nothing and we no longer have a chance. They can't ignore this.

crimsontotem wrote...
what is this? https://www.facebook...275176599224397


I really don't think it's a good idea to pay attention to rumors. That looked pretty legit when it first popped up, but the Battlemaster and Justicar just make it look fake.

https://www.facebook...275176599224397

You'll have to view previous comments, there are a lot of responses already.  But that's the page.


It looks like that post was taken down.  atghunter, analysis on this?  They posted in someone's thread on facebook that they didn't plan on changing the endings "at this time" and then very quickly got rid of the posting as the vitriol flooded in from all corners of the 'net.

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Sentr0 wrote...

guys bioware confirmed that no ending dlc will come :|

http://social.biowar...4105/1#10224276

You guys thought this would be won in a week?

That is downright pathetic.

SUCK IT UP SOLDIER. GET BACK TO THE LINE.

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Carnage752 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

guys bioware confirmed that no ending dlc will come :|

http://social.biowar...4105/1#10224276

You guys thought this would be won in a week?

That is downright pathetic.

SUCK IT UP SOLDIER. GET BACK TO THE LINE.


Hoorah! The only easy day was yesterday!

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shephard987 wrote...

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You know what, Ive sat here reading and answering a few posts and reading more, and this one stopped me. I saw how its being treated like war, and how the non-bioware people warn you, not to take anything Bioware says unless its what you want, to try and get you to not roll over, and accept defeat.

i admire it, but they are doing the same thing, Im sitting here and now re thinking my thoughts on this whole thing, the page 1 post allowed me to see that, but its also influencing my thoughts.

its true if promises were made they should have been upheld, and i am sure most of you would not be here if they were upheld.

guess what im stuck thinking is the "movement" is justifiable, standing up and fighting for something you love? sure but using innocents(a children's charity) to get what you want is wrong. I wouldnt be suprised if most of you dont give to charity, because $2 a month or £5 a month is "too much", so your only doing it now to look like the good guys, when the old saying has always been "the customer is always right" you didnt have to proove anything.
With the war terms being thrown about then does that mean this could be classified as borderline terrorism?

Im not sure myself. just thinking allowed and wanted to share. I too am not happy, but at the same time, I dont think anyone has ever really held my opinions high, outside my social circle. so i dont think anything i say would change a damn thing.

and just to clarify, I liked the raising money part for the charity that was really nice, it just feels like its being used as a "catalyst" if you will, so you lot can get what you want. and no charity should be used that way.


I truly understand how you would come to that conclusion or thought process.
Believe me, even I have had those thoughts before I joined.
But here is how I think, or at least justify, this action.

While it is true that we might be using a charity to further our own means, 
we are fighting over a video game ending.
Because the fans who love this game so much are strong and willing to give, 
underneath it all we are fighting for mere entertainment.
In reality, We have raised over 65,000 dollars for either the kids/or the game.
While we are fighting for a virtual concept, we are also fighting for reality.
What matters is that Real world positive outcomes happen.
We are not asking for ransom. Not a real world one, at least.
Our only ransom is peace of mind. 

I cannot remember the last time something like this has happened in the name of the children,
but only after something horrible didn't happen here in the real world.
Well, we prove that a genocide does not need to happen for all of us to chip in. 
Only a group of people who are willing to do the right thing, and maybe, in the end,
grant ourselves the peace of mind all of us should be striving for, in virtuality and reality together.
 



thank you.

the part where you said "our only ransom is peice of mind" struck my heartstrings, tbh. no one likes to be left alone without answers when they ask questsions.  more food for thought.

I respect you for saying that you have either raised money for the kids or the game but eiither way a positive outcome will happen. that is something to stand for.

thankyou for taking a few minutes to help me understand it =)

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Holding the line

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DAMAGE CONTROL REQUIRED:

People are throwing their hands up across the BSN. Everyone get out there and placate them. This is obviously an extension of the same PR we heard on Friday. There has been no official stance handed down from Bioware because they haven't technically been working (though I'm sure they were). Everyone from here should be out in the wilds calming people down. This is a test we must weather if we are to be an effective movement!

Hold the Line

Modifié par cyrrant, 19 mars 2012 - 04:22 .


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agreed this is a long term endeavor, hold the line.

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Carnage752 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

guys bioware confirmed that no ending dlc will come :|

http://social.biowar...4105/1#10224276

You guys thought this would be won in a week?

That is downright pathetic.

SUCK IT UP SOLDIER. GET BACK TO THE LINE.

wow still being a douche i see gess ill come back later btw your patetic

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also with pr slang there is a level of being precise in wording that is intentionally used because to most people it has more generic terms...

trust me, I was to ( insert now defunct game studio here) that Chris is to BW

" not intending on changing"
can have mixed meaning
  • we are not making changes to what we already have planned we wont mention yet
  •  We are not changing, it's adding on, not a change
  • we are not giving a comment one way or the other  until told to
  • we are not changing anything as of yet or until we are told to say other wise


take nothing at face value

Modifié par MatronAdena, 19 mars 2012 - 04:23 .


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-looks up twitter-

Page does not exist!

-laughs uncontrollably-

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Tyrannis Vos

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I think that post was some misguided attempt to make the movement die down a bit. Clearly, it didn't work and they pulled it.

I could be very, very wrong though. Anyways, I'm off for now. Thanks for the discussion. I'll be around later tonight!

EDIT: HOLD THE LINE!

Modifié par Tyrannis Vos, 19 mars 2012 - 04:24 .


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@Cyrrant

Thank you. There are a few typos in my post but can't edit properly as I'm on an iPhone at the moment.

I've already liked the Facebook page, it's how I found this thread actually as it was linked.

Happy to hold the line as long as it takes. I really do belliieve they will do what's right by use.

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cApAc aMaRu wrote...

EA has been vocal about how games are BUSINESS not ART, so the endings cannot be excused by pointing at artistic licence.

This game was falsely advertised and represented, constituting a clear breach of ethical business practice and the laws governing consumer issues in many countries.


Profiteering corporations do not create art.  Art does not come with dlc.  Art doesn't need a player to turn it into art.

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c3pu2 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

guys bioware confirmed that no ending dlc will come :|

http://social.biowar...4105/1#10224276

You guys thought this would be won in a week?

That is downright pathetic.

SUCK IT UP SOLDIER. GET BACK TO THE LINE.

wow still being a douche i see gess ill come back later btw your patetic


Whoa dude. I think he was just trying to motivate people in a tounge in cheek way. No need for name calling.

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Tyrannis Vos

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Carnage752 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

guys bioware confirmed that no ending dlc will come :|

http://social.biowar...4105/1#10224276

You guys thought this would be won in a week?

That is downright pathetic.

SUCK IT UP SOLDIER. GET BACK TO THE LINE.


Carnage, not everyone here wants to play soldier. Can we be a little nicer?

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Vap0ur_Snake wrote...

@Cyrrant

Thank you. There are a few typos in my post but can't edit properly as I'm on an iPhone at the moment.

I've already liked the Facebook page, it's how I found this thread actually as it was linked.

Happy to hold the line as long as it takes. I really do belliieve they will do what's right by use.

course they will they just cant say so yet

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Guys, don't let their stock answer in regards to DLC endings shake you. Even if they WERE planning that kind of DLC, of course they're going to deny until they can have a big unveiling.

All is well guys. We have to keep the pressure on. No letting up. Hold dat line.

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Boceephus wrote...

c3pu2 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

guys bioware confirmed that no ending dlc will come :|

http://social.biowar...4105/1#10224276

You guys thought this would be won in a week?

That is downright pathetic.

SUCK IT UP SOLDIER. GET BACK TO THE LINE.

wow still being a douche i see gess ill come back later btw your patetic


Whoa dude. I think he was just trying to motivate people in a tounge in cheek way. No need for name calling.

 he as been like that all night one of the reason why i left earlyer

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c3pu2 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

guys bioware confirmed that no ending dlc will come :|

http://social.biowar...4105/1#10224276

You guys thought this would be won in a week?

That is downright pathetic.

SUCK IT UP SOLDIER. GET BACK TO THE LINE.

wow still being a douche i see gess ill come back later btw your patetic

The fact you thought this would be easy worries me. Hopefully the rest of Retake is made of sterner stuff.

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Carnage752 wrote...

c3pu2 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

guys bioware confirmed that no ending dlc will come :|

http://social.biowar...4105/1#10224276

You guys thought this would be won in a week?

That is downright pathetic.

SUCK IT UP SOLDIER. GET BACK TO THE LINE.

wow still being a douche i see gess ill come back later btw your patetic

The fact you thought this would be easy worries me. Hopefully the rest of Retake is made of sterner stuff.

well i agree with you its not gonna be easy but telling him is patetic because he is disapointed was to much

Modifié par c3pu2, 19 mars 2012 - 04:29 .