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EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode *UPDATED 3/22/12, 5:28 PM UTC/GMT -4 hours*


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ReavousX

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c3pu2 wrote...

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Official confirmation that no new endings are in the works:

www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php


This is not nearly the bad news people make it out to be.  This is nothing new.  It's been less than two weeks, that's not nearly enough time to make a decision addressing the ending.  Not to mention we're still waitng for the end of Q1.  

Bioware has nothing planned.  Yet.  Hold the line.

an anouncement that big would not be on twitter it would be at pax in front of the press


Exactly.  That's pretty much on par with how we've figured this is going to play out.  We're really going to analyze the language and tone they use at PAX.  Not to mention what could be announced anyways.

My guess is it might still be too soon for them to announce anything, but if we've had a significant impact, I think it will show.  They'll have a positive tone when talking about the endings, and the possibility of ending DLC.  If it sounds like they're going with other DLC before that, then we're going to have to bunker down for the real long haul.

I seriously think it'd be a bad, bad call to do any other DLC before addressing the endings.  New sidequests won't motivate me to play all over again for such an unfulfilling ending, and I don't think I'm alone.

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Alright, I really am going to bed now. Hold the line, people, because tomorrow is our big day. Come at them with all the fury you can muster. Do it for Shepard, do it for Marauder Shields, but mostly, do it for yourselves, because the ending has ruined a franchise you valued, or even loved. I want to one day say to my future children that Mass Effect was the flagship franchise of my time, to play it with them and watch them marvel at the characters and the story, even if the graphics will seem a bit dated!

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

#4478
UKillMeLongTime

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well just confirm there is no change or addition to the ending as i will be sure to not but any MP DLC. I'll do what i've nevre done and not buy it day 1, if ever if its left 'as is'

i'll just play witcher 2 and wait for akyrim expansions and Biohsock

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The fact that these tweets are getting deleted should be cheering people up if anything. That's a huge sign we're getting through.

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Quietness wrote...

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for whoever wants it, i reposted 1 on their facebook and within 5 minutes they deleted without comment.


Yeah I even tweeted in response to it...but then it went away.

Makes no difference to me. I will be here with you all. Our choices matter! Hold the Line!

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I watched Facebook after that response from Mass Effect and I think that at least 95% of the posts were complaints about the ending. I couldn't help myself and added a Marauder Shields and hold the line post just for kicks. I'm not taking what they say on a Facebook post as genuine news. Most likely, the developers and employees of Mass Effect are taking a weekend break (hence, the silence) or they are all in meetings nonstop over the PR s*^tstorm.

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people need to understand a decision to commission unplanned dlc doesn't happen in a weekend. the answer is going to be no we arent planning any dlc ending until the day they decide to do it.

Try not to feel like an answer today is set in stone. We are going to change minds slowly, if at all.

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I'm gonna get some sleep and see what happens in the morning. Monday is when the business week kicks off after all. Good night and keep it friendly all.

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Boceephus wrote...

The fact that these tweets are getting deleted should be cheering people up if anything. That's a huge sign we're getting through.


They're certainly taking notice.  There's no doubt they're listening, and treading lightly.  I don't think they've "got it" yet, but I have hunch someone is ringing the alarms and telling others that they might want to consider our demand to see the ending(s) addressed.  

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c3pu2

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ReavousX wrote...

Boceephus wrote...

The fact that these tweets are getting deleted should be cheering people up if anything. That's a huge sign we're getting through.


They're certainly taking notice.  There's no doubt they're listening, and treading lightly.  I don't think they've "got it" yet, but I have hunch someone is ringing the alarms and telling others that they might want to consider our demand to see the ending(s) addressed.  

you can say "ending"

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Regan Cousland wrote...

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Waning numbers here in the forums don't mean that the RetakeME3 movement is failing. Once players have said everything they want to say about the endings, it's inevitable that the frequency of posts will decline and our collective interest in the topic will wane and wander.

The important thing is that everybody *remembers* how dissatisefed they were with ME3's ending in a few weeks or months time when BioWare start trying to sell us DLCs, MP content and other sundry merchandise we don't want. So go ahead and do something else with your time, but remember to Hold the Line once more before you open your wallet for EA.

We are not done yet bud!


The only reason I made that comment is because some people seem to think we've failed if BioWare doesn't make an official announcement soon, but that isn't the case. If the consumers present a united front, they're the ones in control here.

I'd also like to add that I, like all the true BioWare fans, hate having to harass my all-time favourite games developer in this manner. Unfortunately for them they're paying the price for setting such high standards. If this were any other game or any other company I'd shelve my disappointment and go straight to a competitor, but nobody out there comes close to competing with BioWare ... when they're on their usual form.


  

   

Excellent post.  Don't think for one moment just because people aren't posting here for periods they've gone away and are suddenly happy. And do not let it dishearten anyone to be sure.  I've said, folks should take breaks because this will take time (EA’s people will I assure you).  Its a marathon, not a sprint, and its pretty clear at the moment your voice is being heard!  It will be tested. Keep expressing yourselves!    

As I've mentioned, even when not here, there are a multitude of things you can do collectively (and individually) to keep being heard. 

Letters to EA, joining Retake, donating to Child's Play, giving feedback, closing accounts, etc are all viable outlets to let EA know you're not happy and you're not going away.  Use your voice, even if it to tell friends how you feel about the game (on either side).  Btw, letting the media know about things like Retake and Child's Play are solid ideas IMO.  Lastly, there are some excellent efforts at organizing I'm seeing and I salute those stepping forward to do so!

This thread has become a quasi-chat room and I think that is great.  It has some excellent folks I see in here often giving guidance, solid advice, passionate (but civil) no-nonsense opinions, and watching the walls (an unfortunate necessity given its popularity).  New people are arriving constantly.  There are community discussions going on all the time.

As an analogy: This thread of reminds me of a train station receiving people from some natural disaster.  People arrive (upset, frustrated, and trying to get their bearings), find people already here receptive and helpful, get advice on how to travel on, and then light out.  They come back for more advice or to discuss, or better still to help other people that have newly arrived.

Sure EA hopes everyone stops talking/posting/etc about this situation.  This is a PR flash fire.  But they are not so foolish to think this is going away without some form of détente.  Whether the resonant voices here that are unhappy with the endings represent a majority of their gaming community, I doubt even they know (though I suspect it does).  What EA does know at this point is that a big segment of avid fans are upset.

As for me, I will go to work tomorrow, dedicate myself to my job, and plan to check in when I can.  Will I still be holding the line until I get home?  You bet. 

The new press cycle starts tomorrow and the pieces should start moving again btw.

I admire everyone here who has used your voice (no matter what side you've taken) with passion and civility.  I applaud the folks who are here so often keeping things civil and our thread's creator.  I encourage folks to check in here and Retake as they can.  These are great sources for updates and you can genuinely help folks who are newly arriving with suggestions how they can express their approval or disapproval. 

Hold The Line


 

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i think there going to build on it regarding rescuing the normandy somehow after the events of the relays blowing up

thats the only thing i can really think of atm because i just think its odd theyll end the final game like that

Modifié par Tazzmission, 19 mars 2012 - 05:04 .


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They are deleting posts that even refer to what they said without comment, forget the images. Its hillarous how hard someone is going to be fired tomorrow.

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I'm still following this. Not posting everyday, but it's worth following to see things from a wide perspective. I agree however that anything Bioware decides to do or say won't be immediate, but we'll hear from them at some point on the subject outside of asking for our feedback.

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c3pu2 wrote...

ReavousX wrote...

Boceephus wrote...

The fact that these tweets are getting deleted should be cheering people up if anything. That's a huge sign we're getting through.


They're certainly taking notice.  There's no doubt they're listening, and treading lightly.  I don't think they've "got it" yet, but I have hunch someone is ringing the alarms and telling others that they might want to consider our demand to see the ending(s) addressed.  

you can say "ending"


With 3 pretty colors.  :whistle:

#4491
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Hold the Line folks. They're just trying to scare us away.

#4492
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Ok people, it's just turned 5:00 AM here so I'm gonna try and sleep. Will be back for a proper discussion tomorrow.

If any of you dudes play on Xbox my gamertag is Vapour Snake if you wanna add me.

Good night all.

HOLD THE LINE!

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Every bit of news that is not them fixing it is bad news.

Every time this happens we have to redouble our efforts. Every slip, every cover up, has to make us shout louder. If we let this die, we lose.

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Someone was testing the waters...and found they were still hot. XD

Hold the line guys, hold the line.

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Skyblade012 wrote...

Every bit of news that is not them fixing it is bad news.

Every time this happens we have to redouble our efforts. Every slip, every cover up, has to make us shout louder. If we let this die, we lose.

We are not GOING to die. This movement has barely started. Don't give up now.

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c3pu2

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Razorsteel wrote...

c3pu2 wrote...

ReavousX wrote...

Boceephus wrote...

The fact that these tweets are getting deleted should be cheering people up if anything. That's a huge sign we're getting through.


They're certainly taking notice.  There's no doubt they're listening, and treading lightly.  I don't think they've "got it" yet, but I have hunch someone is ringing the alarms and telling others that they might want to consider our demand to see the ending(s) addressed.  

you can say "ending"


With 3 pretty colors.  :whistle:

made me laught there red blue and green like the plugs beind my tv were mi xbox his pluged in must mean something masseffect his taking place inside my xbox ence all the prety color

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Skyblade012 wrote...

Every bit of news that is not them fixing it is bad news.

Every time this happens we have to redouble our efforts. Every slip, every cover up, has to make us shout louder. If we let this die, we lose.


Unfortuntaely for them, the internet never lies. :devil: We have photograhpic proof that a) Bioware has acknowledge the endings won't be changed at this time and B) they tried to cover it up when plenty of backslash came out.

And if they deny ever seeing such a report or accuse us of frabication? Well, the internet neve lies...

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Carnage752 wrote...

Skyblade012 wrote...

Every bit of news that is not them fixing it is bad news.

Every time this happens we have to redouble our efforts. Every slip, every cover up, has to make us shout louder. If we let this die, we lose.

We are not GOING to die. This movement has barely started. Don't give up now.


Just ask yourself, "what would Marauder Sheilds do?". :police:

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ReavousX

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c3pu2 wrote...

ReavousX wrote...

Boceephus wrote...

The fact that these tweets are getting deleted should be cheering people up if anything. That's a huge sign we're getting through.


They're certainly taking notice.  There's no doubt they're listening, and treading lightly.  I don't think they've "got it" yet, but I have hunch someone is ringing the alarms and telling others that they might want to consider our demand to see the ending(s) addressed.  

you can say "ending"


Might be better if I said ending(s)

It's a sad state of affairs when it's BIOWARE of all companies to have fans in an uproar over their endings.  Their titles are among some of the most epic, fulfilling, complete stories in all of video games...and they dropped the ball at the close of one of their most successful titles.  

Still wrapping my head around it.  It's like I'm in bizarro world.  I accepted DA2 because they tried a bit too hard with too many new things (and that doesn't excuse the recycled dungeons) but really, that should have been the ultimate red flag.  

Even then, ME3 was so hard to mess up.  It was 99% amazing.  

Ugh.  I need a drink.

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Reidbynature wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

Skyblade012 wrote...

Every bit of news that is not them fixing it is bad news.

Every time this happens we have to redouble our efforts. Every slip, every cover up, has to make us shout louder. If we let this die, we lose.

We are not GOING to die. This movement has barely started. Don't give up now.


Just ask yourself, "what would Marauder Sheilds do?". :police:

die