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[Marcin K]

has everyone seen this? click

[Lichtgestaltt]

Agamemnon2589 wrote...

lanep25 wrote...

A little humor relief! Smile!

I lolled hard tuff. XD

Hahaha ty for that laugh! Needed that on a monday

[Salyut]

zimm2142 wrote...

They just rolled out what I would define as the first distinct "Olive Branch" to get more sales on Origin.
Buy ME3 and get Batman Arkham City for $10.

Hold The Line.

Yes, they seem to be holding a spring sale on Origin. I've heard people on the ending thread suggest it's a PR move. I'm inclined to agree, but spring sales are not that rare. It could have been planned before any of this happened.

[Murvel88]

Very interesting thread. Glad to see so many people fighting for change here. I've shared my thoughts and opinions regarding the end (in length) in various threads but I'd just like to express my support for this movement, and this seems to be the place to do so. I really loved playing the entire ME trilogy, right up to the moment that shall not be named. It contained so many plotholes it's hard to keep track of them all. I just feel that we all paid for a promise which BioWare/EA has yet to deliver upon. If they decide to fix the ending in a DLC, release it for free because we all thought we were paying for it in the first place. I will not play ME (or any other BW game) again, not until the ending is fixed. I'll be holding the line, urging my friends not to shoot Marauder Shields. Keep fighting the good fight, and keep it civil.

[LinksOcarina]

And yet, Jeff Gerstmann is now working with Gamespot again, since Giantbomb got bought out by CBS, which is Gamespots parent company.

And most of that was the fault of the director of the website who has had trouble in the past with such things, it should not be a reflection of games sites as a whole.

[Boceephus]

Phew! Finally caught up with everything after I went to bed last night. Damn this board is flying.

I just want to say, even though I felt this long ago for obvious reasons, seeing some of the reaction of video game journalists is positively sickening. Journalism should stand for truth and neutrality and all the big sites are acting shamefully to be frank. And this is before I even get to actively insulting your readers, that just bottles my mind (to quote the great Zoolander).

If anyone feels the same, I urge you to just give up on these sites. Don't give them the page hits. Don't even acknowledge their existence. There's plenty of competent unbiased sources for video game news out there and they deserve your patronage.

[cyrrant]

As I'm switching between my two jobs at the moment have a free second to post, I thought I would.

I was incredibly heartened to see that when people attacked Mr. Woo for coming in here with an attitude they deemed inappropriate, that there were many people who told them to cool their jets. That is important, because we can't abandon civility in the face of perceived insults. If we use it and then lose it at the drop a of a hat it gains us nothing.

Continue to make me proud to be part of the Retake Mass Effect movement, I will post more when I am able.

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

[Lil One]

lanep25 wrote...

A little humor relief! Smile!

Thank you, Sir, needed that.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

I'm getting a V For Vendetta vibe in here...

[SkaldFish]

ReavousX wrote...

FataliTensei wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Please note that posts which contain nothing but "Hold the line" type sentiments will be considered a violation of Rules #5 and #6 of our Site Rules.. We are still a discussion forum, thank you.

On your last two posts.

Throwing a hissy fit are we? Jesus, can you be any more condescending? This is not the kind of way to get back your fans' good side you know...

HOLD.THE.LINE.

Dude, knock it off.  Stanley was right in telling people to keep to discussions, rather than spamming the mantra.  

Insulting mods is a surefire way to sink this thread, don't do it.

^^^This. Please be civil. Have a problem with a moderator? Send the moderator a PM. Stanley now has ample grounds to lock this thread any time he wants. And I'm beginning to think maybe he should.

[Rulycar]

Gaming in Entertainmet said
The negativity of the Mass Effect 3 ending will still not go away and we have since learned that fans have now pledged to donate $53,000 to charity if Bioware agree to change the ending – don’t know whether to say this is a nice gesture or an underhanded tactic to get the developers to make a change to the ending of ME3?

http://www.inenterta...nges-the-rules/

I really hope they rewrite this terrible misrepresentation.

Modifié par Rulycar, 19 mars 2012 - 07:39 .

[Optimus J]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Uh...they don't do that anymore.

They merged three companies into BioWare over the past three years, and have pretty much made it their RPG/RTS wing of the company. It also helps that Dr. Ray Mayzuka is now a member of the board of EA Games, which also houses Danger Close, Visceral Studios, Criteron Games, EA Black Box, and DICE. 

These are the guys making RPGs, RTSs, Racing, Shooters and Action titles. They have EA Play, the casual market stuff, and EA Sports, seperate. 

Honestly, EA has a very respectable corporate structure, it gives quasi-autonomy to their studios without bleeding them into one another too much. Of course when a studio grows like BioWare, which merged with Mythic and Victory Games, it may not look good from afar, but consider this; Victory was launched to work on the Command and Conquer liscence in 2010, so it made more sense to give them higher name recognition. It showed confidence in BioWares abilities with the game, even though its their first foray outside of an RPG since MDK 2. 
 
This is a better structure for a large-scale company in many pockets. This is a better model than say, Activision, which has over a dozen different studios under its helm and pretty much orders them to make something that may or may not be within the confines of their respected talents. For example, Neversoft moved from making the Tony Hawk games to Guitar Hero in 2007 after Harmonix signed a deal with EA. And they held that jointly with Vicarious Visions who developed games for three different systems simultaneously for them. If anything, Activision is more akin to what EA did, only without good structure or competant development teams behind it. 

So I wouldn't knock the corporate structure much.

EA  is at the deepest analysis a greed bastard company at the core, but as one onion have multiple layers.And I have to agree that those layers give such freedom to studios that it turns to a huge success.

The problem we are facing here is that ONE of those studios covered itself with hubris and is more worried with maintaining their own opinion,no matter how most of the world say they can't FORCE IT into other. And they keep fighting to force it, with little regard of the consequences over themselves, over the customers,and ABOVE ALL THINGS the company.

This situation is already splashing over all studios. The price drop people say that ALREADY happened to ME3 is in fact over a MULTITUDE of titles of EA, so they can generate a faux selling report to appease their shareholders.

What scare me the most isn't the disregard of Bioware about the players. atghunter have way more profound analysis on that. What REALLY scare me is that out of his hubris in what he consider artistic integrity, Casey is willing to go to ANY measures to protect the Deus-ex rip-off he thinks it's a homage to his favorite game, in the end of ME3.

And what's been scaring me even more this Monday is how tight his team is with him, willing to sacrifices themselves for his cause.

And then come my relief that EA is company that envision PROFIT. The fact that ultimately our side gives EA that goal and Bioware's side take it from them, I say "HURRAY FOR CAPITALISM!"

[fity2]

Please vote about your future Bioware experience

http://social.biowar.../index/10256333

[ReavousX]

Guys, the Microsoft store is offering ME3 for $39.99 with free shipping.

http://kotaku.com/58...tag=mass-effect

[shephard987]

To help you with the stages of grief we are all feeling.

http://www.gamezone....-effect-3-grief

Hold The Line

[Dr_Hello]

stargatefan1990 wrote...

i intend to stay with Retake ME3 until we get a non by the book pr response at least, funny thing is i was planning on buying the from ashes DLC after my first play through and play it on New game+ then import my other shepherds and right before i got hit by Harbinger's Beam i was thinking about how awesome it will be to Replay etc then i saw the Ending of color choice, and i completed it over a week ago After watching such a Ridiculous Ending i have no interest in playing it again lol,

i will hold the line!

Edit: And be polite but to the point while i am doing it 

It is indeed disappointing to see such a fantastic one of the kind game series which offered such great emotional and diversifed gameplay and freedom of choices to ultimately box its gamers in by the 3 'magical' endings. No matter what you do, decide, kill, save, love, you still get the same magical endings. Inevitably, all replay value is gone.

...unless BioWare has some master plan already thought out for what's to follow and we are only seeing part of the puzzle, which would invalidate my criticism. 

[Bachuck]

 I don't think I can update the first post with any more content. I may have run out of characters. 

Later on today or tomorrow, I'll reedit the OP to include the links to the post rather than the post themselves. 

[Boceephus]

Bachuck wrote...

 I don't think I can update the first post with any more content. I may have run out of characters. 

Later on today or tomorrow, I'll reedit the OP to include the links to the post rather than the post themselves. 

Thanks for all the hard work Bachuck.

[vigna]

Rulycar wrote...

Gaming in Entertainmet said
The negativity of the Mass Effect 3 ending will still not go away and we have since learned that fans have now pledged to donate $53,000 to charity if Bioware agree to change the ending – don’t know whether to say this is a nice gesture or an underhanded tactic to get the developers to make a change to the ending of ME3?

http://www.inenterta...nges-the-rules/

I really hope they rewrite this terrible misrepresentation.

Isn't it already donated whether BW changes it or not? Ugghhhh

[Mister Mida]

I like reading the OP. It has weight.

[KainrycKarr]

 bump

[ArmyKnifeX]

Optimus J wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Uh...they don't do that anymore.

They merged three companies into BioWare over the past three years, and have pretty much made it their RPG/RTS wing of the company. It also helps that Dr. Ray Mayzuka is now a member of the board of EA Games, which also houses Danger Close, Visceral Studios, Criteron Games, EA Black Box, and DICE. 

These are the guys making RPGs, RTSs, Racing, Shooters and Action titles. They have EA Play, the casual market stuff, and EA Sports, seperate. 

Honestly, EA has a very respectable corporate structure, it gives quasi-autonomy to their studios without bleeding them into one another too much. Of course when a studio grows like BioWare, which merged with Mythic and Victory Games, it may not look good from afar, but consider this; Victory was launched to work on the Command and Conquer liscence in 2010, so it made more sense to give them higher name recognition. It showed confidence in BioWares abilities with the game, even though its their first foray outside of an RPG since MDK 2. 
 
This is a better structure for a large-scale company in many pockets. This is a better model than say, Activision, which has over a dozen different studios under its helm and pretty much orders them to make something that may or may not be within the confines of their respected talents. For example, Neversoft moved from making the Tony Hawk games to Guitar Hero in 2007 after Harmonix signed a deal with EA. And they held that jointly with Vicarious Visions who developed games for three different systems simultaneously for them. If anything, Activision is more akin to what EA did, only without good structure or competant development teams behind it. 

So I wouldn't knock the corporate structure much.

EA  is at the deepest analysis a greed bastard company at the core, but as one onion have multiple layers.And I have to agree that those layers give such freedom to studios that it turns to a huge success.
-snip-
And then come my relief that EA is company that envision PROFIT. The fact that ultimately our side gives EA that goal and Bioware's side take it from them, I say "HURRAY FOR CAPITALISM!"

Whoa there man... Hold up. Links has a lot of good points. I think most people's biggest problems with EA are twofold: one with their crappy customer support during non-launch times, and two: their marketing division.

I completely think their marketing division needs to be held accountable for the crap they throw at the public, especially the campaigns that paint gamers in a stereotypical light - it does nothing to further the cause of gaming as a legitimate medium or change the perception of gamers.

Without EA, by the way, we wouldn't have the huge budgets requires to produce AAA games. Are these budgets always necessary? No. But if there weren't a demand they wouldn't rake in more profits than any other form of media.

[maki0129]

Let us all please refrain from attacking moderators, or really people in general.

The reason why this movement has been working, is not only because of sheer numbers, but because we have been able to keep a significant measure of civility in our discontent. Let us try not to taint that by reducing this whole thing to a nasty flame war.

Let's keep calm, and keep voicing our opinions and our discontent, with our wallets, with our input, with our feedback, but most importantly with RESPECT.

[vigna]

Bachuck wrote...

 I don't think I can update the first post with any more content. I may have run out of characters. 

Later on today or tomorrow, I'll reedit the OP to include the links to the post rather than the post themselves. 

I actually think ATG's first post is very important. I'd at least leave that one   IMO. It introduces the concept of the thread very eloquently.

[DashRunner92]

Wow the price of ME3 has been dropping. It's only been 2 weeks (I think) and it's already $40 on the Microsoft store. Pretty hash amazon reviews too. I hope Bioware and EA end up taking a financial loss from this game, especially with the amount of marketing that went into this game.