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#5801
Hydralysk

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Agamemnon2589 wrote...

Hey guys and girls who are interested in mailing the N7 fabric patch (or a paper cut-out of one if you don't have the CE) here is BioWare's main office contact information from their website. I sent a PM to the FB page person, so hopefully they can help coordinate this.

Mailing Address:
BioWare Edmonton
200-4445 Calgary Trail NW
Edmonton AB
Canada T6H 5R7
E-mail: contact@bioware.com
Phone: 780-430-0164*
Fax: 780-439-6374

Where exactly do we get these paper cut outs?

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Samuel_Valkyrie

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Also: I might be sending a picture of an N7 tag to EA/Bioware, but not my actual tag. Because, I want to keep that thing. I'm already boycotting the game, MP, being involved here, etc. Let me keep this one, OK?

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This needs to become a forum wide movement, the path idea.

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Sinnick03 wrote...

If you send in the patches BW / EA will probably just re-distribute the patches and you may actually have saved them some money.

Hmm, perhaps a permanent marker wrting something to the effect of 'we will hold'

That isn't the point, though. Sure, they may do that, but honestly, think of something that has more symbolic value than the N7 logo, especially in this situation. It's like a sign from the gods that the patch was included in the CE. And if you don't have a patch (or don't want to send yours to keep them from reusing it), mail a paper cut-out of the logo. Same effect, and now they can't package it in anything else. (I'm fairly certain they won't be producing any more CEs anyway, though.)

Modifié par Agamemnon2589, 19 mars 2012 - 11:11 .


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Carnage752 wrote...

Then we make sure we don't give them a reason to swing back. Not causing any more FTC incidents Bioware will have no problem demonizing is a start.


How just how will you accomplish this?  If someone is absolute in his decision to file a complaint with the FTC, how will you stop him?  In fact, do you have the right to deny him the ability to do so?

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longtimecoming00 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

Then we make sure we don't give them a reason to swing back. Not causing any more FTC incidents Bioware will have no problem demonizing is a start.


How just how will you accomplish this?  If someone is absolute in his decision to file a complaint with the FTC, how will you stop him?  In fact, do you have the right to deny him the ability to do so?

We can make it clear we don't endorse that behavior nor do we want to be associated with people like that.

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Agamemnon2589

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Hydralysk wrote...

Agamemnon2589 wrote...

Hey guys and girls who are interested in mailing the N7 fabric patch (or a paper cut-out of one if you don't have the CE) here is BioWare's main office contact information from their website. I sent a PM to the FB page person, so hopefully they can help coordinate this.

Mailing Address:
BioWare Edmonton
200-4445 Calgary Trail NW
Edmonton AB
Canada T6H 5R7
E-mail: contact@bioware.com
Phone: 780-430-0164*
Fax: 780-439-6374

Where exactly do we get these paper cut outs?


http://images.darkho...00/20/20732.jpg
There you go. Straight off of Google images.

Modifié par Agamemnon2589, 19 mars 2012 - 11:10 .


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Agamemnon2589 wrote...

Hey guys and girls who are interested in mailing the N7 fabric patch (or a paper cut-out of one if you don't have the CE) here is BioWare's main office contact information from their website. I sent a PM to the FB page person, so hopefully they can help coordinate this.

Mailing Address:
BioWare Edmonton
200-4445 Calgary Trail NW
Edmonton AB
Canada T6H 5R7
E-mail: contact@bioware.com
Phone: 780-430-0164*
Fax: 780-439-6374


First the letter bombardment, now this... I guess if BioWare/EA have thought the storm will just blow over, they'll give it a second thought after those badges reach them.

Anyway, it's midnight here. I'm signing off with our well-known

Hold the line!

#5809
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maki0129 wrote...

shephard987 wrote...


A GIANT ******.



With the N7 logo, and slots to add mods to it that increase the motor's RPM, reduce battery usage, etc.


Ha ha, amazing. Increases RPM 75% but at a -40% decrease to the battery. 

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Murvel88 wrote...

shephard987 wrote...


A GIANT ******.


Oh dear... :lol:


The only acceptable colors would be red, blue, or green.

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Carnage752 wrote...

We can make it clear we don't endorse that behavior nor do we want to be associated with people like that.


Yet several members from your movement had no problem with someone filing a complaint.  So is it the movement that doesn't endorse the decision, or you?

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longtimecoming00 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...
Heres the difference log.

Bioware sites will always degrade us. The fact we have a bloody charity with 65K dollars for the children got through to the public.

The FTC incident came out, and Bioware sites did the usual slandering. And the public bought it. They didn't see us as a civil, peaceful movement or a movement with 65K donated to charity.

They saw us as whiny fanboys.


Actually, they never saw you as a peaceful movement.  Rather, they thought you were all self-entitled brats who took a charity hostage and hid behind it to advance your childish agenda.  It might be harsh to hear, but that's what they thought.


Well it's normal that people reakt like this to something thats a) new to them or something they wouldn't deem necessary themselves and B) anonym like an internet campaign. It's just ordinary ignorance.

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@anyone being childish, derailing the thread, or wishing to argue with specific people.

Please take that stuff to the PM system. Keep the board civil, friendly, and respectful. =)

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RE: N7 Patches!

Got a response from the person who made the aforementioned thread who seemed to believe sending in the N7 Patches would be a great addition to the next letter campaign. I sent a FB PM there (before I knew you did Agamemnon2589 or I wouldn't have bombarded the poor guy, woops!) so we'll see what comes of it.

@Agamemnon: Thanks for the addy!

Edit: I don't think BW would just 'repurpose' the Patches, but those who wanted to could marker over it as was suggested or the like. But I think the simplicity of the patch alone speaks volumes in and of itself.

Editx2: Got thread names mixed up. Really need to stop messaging while fixing dinner.

Modifié par shygravel, 19 mars 2012 - 11:21 .


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BostonVamp wrote...

Agamemnon2589 wrote...

Kinoru wrote...

hmm how about the covers if you dont have the patch? I know it'll be hard to part with them but we need to show that we are out here and we won't be ignored.

Hold the Line.

That would work, but I think the patch idea may just be a little more economical for everyone. I imagine the cover would be difficult to sent in a regular envelope. Well, I suppose you could bend it...

Personally, I'd just say stick with the patches. It's not overstated or crazy, it has high symbolic value, and it's a nice, succinct message to BioWare and EA.


If you send in the patches BW / EA will probably just re-distribute the patches and you may actually have saved them some money.


You have a good point.  So what can we send them that's not too much money but something that they can't just repackage and sell.

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Sypher_KoS wrote

Incompetent, greedy or out of touch, choose your color.


This.... Hit the nail on the head for me ;)  

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Hold the line.

And remember the facebook page and twitter!! :-)

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The studio behind hit videogame "Mass Effect 3" on Monday said fans who wanted a happier ending may get a slice of what they wish for, following an online campaign calling for changes.

The game's executive producer Casey Hudson acknowledged in an online post that the chosen conclusion to the gripping science fiction action trilogy had generated "a lot of discussion and debate," but stood firm on the decision.

"We always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending," he explained in the studio's first and only response to the campaign," on gamemaker BioWare's website forum.

"To do otherwise would betray the agonizing decisions Shepard had to make along the way," he continued, in a reference to the heroic character whose choices and actions are controlled by players in all three titles.

A "Demand a Better Ending for Mass Effect 3" page at social networking website Facebook had logged more than 42,000 "likes" by Monday and a "@RetakeME3" account at Twitter had 4,528 followers.

One fan took the campaign further, filing a complaint with the US Federal Trade Commission arguing that BioWare and publisher Electronic Arts had not been honest about how the trilogy would end.

Hudson, however, noting feedback from players that the ending was too bleak, said BioWare was working on new content that will be made available to download online to extend play beyond the current finish of the game.

"We'll keep listening, because your insights and constructive feedback will help determine what that content should be," he said. "This is not the last you'll hear of Commander Shepard.

"We also recognize that some of our most passionate fans needed more closure, more answers, and more time to say goodbye to their stories," Hudson added.

Originally launched in 2007, the final installment in the "Mass Effect" trilogy was released on March 5 and snapped up by fans.

The games pit the main character, a male or female version of Commander Shepard depending on player preference, against an ancient race of machines called "Reapers" intent on wiping out organic life in the cosmos.

Allies made or friends lost in one game changes who is at the side of a player's character, and thus their options, in sequels. Players can opt to not import characters' reputations from earlier games so they can start fresh.

Hudson said the game had been designed with a series of endings to key plots to allow players to "carry the knowledge of these consequences with you as you complete the final moments of your journey."

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InsaneNarwhal wrote...

@anyone being childish, derailing the thread, or wishing to argue with specific people.

Please take that stuff to the PM system. Keep the board civil, friendly, and respectful. =)



I must agree. If an issue merits continued responses at length, then PMs are the way to go, IMHO.

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longtimecoming00 wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

We can make it clear we don't endorse that behavior nor do we want to be associated with people like that.


Yet several members from your movement had no problem with someone filing a complaint.  So is it the movement that doesn't endorse the decision, or you?

Whole bloody point I'm arguing. Most agree, but if a few don't they need to know why we think it's a bad idea.

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Agamemnon2589 wrote...

Sinnick03 wrote...

If you send in the patches BW / EA will probably just re-distribute the patches and you may actually have saved them some money.

Hmm, perhaps a permanent marker wrting something to the effect of 'we will hold'

That isn't the point, though. Sure, they may do that, but honestly, think of something that has more symbolic value than the N7 logo, especially in this situation. It's like a sign from the gods that the patch was included in the CE. And if you don't have a patch (or don't want to send yours to keep them from reusing it), mail a paper cut-out of the logo. Same effect, and now they can't package it in anything else. (I'm fairly certain they won't be producing any more CEs anyway, though.)

Not saying it should or shouldn't be done...just thinking through unintended consequences. Posted Image

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Hey guys, checking in again.
Here are the latest poll results for IGN if anyone is interested.
Minority, we're not.


http://www.facebook....50639359051633/

Hold the Line

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My god, everytime I check on this thread it's gotten bigger and bigger... Keep up the pace!
Btw: Does someone know how much shipping costs I'd have to calculate for shipping my N7-patch from the Netherlands to the USA?

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Syrellaris wrote...

The studio behind hit videogame "Mass Effect 3" on Monday said fans who wanted a happier ending may get a slice of what they wish for, following an online campaign calling for changes.

The game's executive producer Casey Hudson acknowledged in an online post that the chosen conclusion to the gripping science fiction action trilogy had generated "a lot of discussion and debate," but stood firm on the decision.

"We always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending," he explained in the studio's first and only response to the campaign," on gamemaker BioWare's website forum.

"To do otherwise would betray the agonizing decisions Shepard had to make along the way," he continued, in a reference to the heroic character whose choices and actions are controlled by players in all three titles.

A "Demand a Better Ending for Mass Effect 3" page at social networking website Facebook had logged more than 42,000 "likes" by Monday and a "@RetakeME3" account at Twitter had 4,528 followers.

One fan took the campaign further, filing a complaint with the US Federal Trade Commission arguing that BioWare and publisher Electronic Arts had not been honest about how the trilogy would end.

Hudson, however, noting feedback from players that the ending was too bleak, said BioWare was working on new content that will be made available to download online to extend play beyond the current finish of the game.

"We'll keep listening, because your insights and constructive feedback will help determine what that content should be," he said. "This is not the last you'll hear of Commander Shepard.

"We also recognize that some of our most passionate fans needed more closure, more answers, and more time to say goodbye to their stories," Hudson added.

Originally launched in 2007, the final installment in the "Mass Effect" trilogy was released on March 5 and snapped up by fans.

The games pit the main character, a male or female version of Commander Shepard depending on player preference, against an ancient race of machines called "Reapers" intent on wiping out organic life in the cosmos.

Allies made or friends lost in one game changes who is at the side of a player's character, and thus their options, in sequels. Players can opt to not import characters' reputations from earlier games so they can start fresh.

Hudson said the game had been designed with a series of endings to key plots to allow players to "carry the knowledge of these consequences with you as you complete the final moments of your journey."

Link?

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Syrellaris wrote...

The studio behind hit videogame "Mass Effect 3" on Monday said fans who wanted a happier ending may get a slice of what they wish for, following an online campaign calling for changes.

The game's executive producer Casey Hudson acknowledged in an online post that the chosen conclusion to the gripping science fiction action trilogy had generated "a lot of discussion and debate," but stood firm on the decision.

"We always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending," he explained in the studio's first and only response to the campaign," on gamemaker BioWare's website forum.

"To do otherwise would betray the agonizing decisions Shepard had to make along the way," he continued, in a reference to the heroic character whose choices and actions are controlled by players in all three titles.

A "Demand a Better Ending for Mass Effect 3" page at social networking website Facebook had logged more than 42,000 "likes" by Monday and a "@RetakeME3" account at Twitter had 4,528 followers.

One fan took the campaign further, filing a complaint with the US Federal Trade Commission arguing that BioWare and publisher Electronic Arts had not been honest about how the trilogy would end.

Hudson, however, noting feedback from players that the ending was too bleak, said BioWare was working on new content that will be made available to download online to extend play beyond the current finish of the game.

"We'll keep listening, because your insights and constructive feedback will help determine what that content should be," he said. "This is not the last you'll hear of Commander Shepard.

"We also recognize that some of our most passionate fans needed more closure, more answers, and more time to say goodbye to their stories," Hudson added.

Originally launched in 2007, the final installment in the "Mass Effect" trilogy was released on March 5 and snapped up by fans.

The games pit the main character, a male or female version of Commander Shepard depending on player preference, against an ancient race of machines called "Reapers" intent on wiping out organic life in the cosmos.

Allies made or friends lost in one game changes who is at the side of a player's character, and thus their options, in sequels. Players can opt to not import characters' reputations from earlier games so they can start fresh.

Hudson said the game had been designed with a series of endings to key plots to allow players to "carry the knowledge of these consequences with you as you complete the final moments of your journey."

That is just PR. I remember that quote from Hudson, and it was NOT conclusive. Don't decieve people here Sylarris.