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[ket_shee]

Much appreciated atghunter, your experience is invaluable.

And might I add highly addictive, interest-wise. I might have to redeclare my major O.o

[JoeLaTurkeyII]

What's the general opinion of the feedback thread?

[Nterl0k]

Hold the line, nuff said.

[Auterbot]

This man is smart. As much as the Omega DLC is tempting, if they don't fix this ending I'll ignore it. It'll take willpower but I will. Our Shepards deserve a better end than what they received, one that pools in all of our decisions and war efforts, ones that would make the entire series extremely replayable. We have to hold the line.

[cyrrant]

JoeLaTurkeyII wrote...

What's the general opinion of the feedback thread?

I've seen a couple ideas about it posted in here, but the one I thought made the most sense was that there's a suspicion of it.  Maybe that it's there to get people arguing among themselves about what exactly should have been in a quality ending instead of Holding the Line against the PR machine.

EDIT: With the end result being PR able to say to the rest of the world: "See!?  Even they don't know what they want!"

Modifié par cyrrant, 17 mars 2012 - 05:07 .

[yuncas]

If pointless bumps keep happening it gives them a valid excuse to close the thread. Why not subscribe and add your thoughts when you are able? That should be enough to keep this near the top of the list. Sure it can be restarted, but it's already at more than 20 pages after only a few hours. Why not keep it going?

[Laughing_Man]

Simply fascinating!
Thank you OP, and thanks to the guy who wrote this.
It really gives a new perspective on PR & marketing to people who are not familiar with it.

Personally, i'm going to be much more carefull with my future purchases, no more pre-ordering for me.
And as for future DLC, needless to say that as it is, I won't be buying them.

[oh_saki]

As much as I wanted to believe that this was all a ruse and that Bioware really is planning a DLC for a new ending, I now see that this was the ending they intended in the first place. I've pretty much lost all faith that EA/BW will give the fans the ending we all deserve. Sure, we got them acknowledging it, but I don't see them going all out to give us what we paid for. If they did make something, I'd think it'd just be something half-***'d, made to the degree where we'd all just begrudgingly accept it and shut up.

I think from now on, I'll just play ME3 until Shepard sits next to Anderson after opening the Citadel, then hit the power button on my Xbox.

[Michotic]

It's refreshing to see people able to come together and address concerns. I am also disappointed at the 'ending' of ME3. I think EA and BioWare owe it to their loyal (and PAYING) customers to give them a product they would be proud to own.

I can also say that if this is how BioWare and EA are going to conduct their business, I'll take my money elsewhere.

Hold the line!

[AmaraDark]

TheRedVipress wrote...

Simply fascinating!
Thank you OP, and thanks to the guy who wrote this.
It really gives a new perspective on PR & marketing to people who are not familiar with it.

Personally, i'm going to be much more carefull with my future purchases, no more pre-ordering for me.
And as for future DLC, needless to say that as it is, I won't be buying them.

Agreed, as I said in the original ending megathread - Bioware used to be the one company I would take the leap and preorder their games. Never again - and definitely no dlc.

[JoeLaTurkeyII]

cyrrant wrote...

JoeLaTurkeyII wrote...

What's the general opinion of the feedback thread?

I've seen a couple ideas about it posted in here, but the one I thought made the most sense was that there's a suspicion of it.  Maybe that it's there to get people arguing among themselves about what exactly should have been in a quality ending instead of Holding the Line against the PR machine.

EDIT: With the end result being PR able to say to the rest of the world: "See!?  Even they don't know what they want!"

I think even that's backfiring. The same ideas keep popping up.

1. Everyone HATES Stachild and wants the sequence with that pissant scrapped.

2. There's no logic in the technological singularity motivation

3. War assets and EMS need to give us a final choice in the matter.

[RagingCeltik]

bump

[TheCynical1]

Hold the Line! Keelah Se'lai!

[Area42T]

bump

[Turtlicious]

Thanks Atghunter

[Dridengx]

So everyone hates Bioware, Mass Effect is ruined for them, They will never play the games again. They will never purchase a game from Bioware again.. but yet you will remain the rest of your life here trolling? lol. maybe use that Bioware money on new keyboards? lol

[humes spork]

redknight38 wrote...

Ah, then that is more problematic. It still doesn't look good, however, and so it is still likely troublesome for Bioware.

Dude, the confidence interval (margin of error) of a 60,000 sample out of a population of 2,000,000 is .39%. Even accounting for sampling errors, response and coverage biases the MoE is still way below 3%.

[irishScott3]

Guys, shameless bumping = locked threads. If you're going to bump, at least give one line of something or other that appears to contribute.

[lasertank]

Bump!

[redknight38]

JoeLaTurkeyII wrote...

I think even that's backfiring. The same ideas keep popping up.

1. Everyone HATES Stachild and wants the sequence with that pissant scrapped.

2. There's no logic in the technological singularity motivation

3. War assets and EMS need to give us a final choice in the matter.

The option to have a "happy" ending also comes up often. I don't know why people should be so hesitant to forward this. It's simply an option. We don't want to override the so-called dark endings. If I work at it, I think that like ME2, I should be able to have a "happy" ending, where my squad is alive and I am with them (at least). I mean, really. How many people chose the "unhappy" ending in ME2, where you kill off most of your squad or die yourself?

The only thing that has really annoyed me about this issue is the "I've got mine" tone and attitude of people who like the endings. They're happy with the endings, why change it? They can't seem to understand others aren't.

I sense that, as is usual on the internet, it's because they feel their tastes and opinions are somehow being attacked. We don't like something they don't, therefore we are belittling or insulting their taste or intelligence.

Modifié par redknight38, 17 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[RocketManSR2]

JoeLaTurkeyII wrote...

I think even that's backfiring. The same ideas keep popping up.

1. Everyone HATES Stachild and wants the sequence with that pissant scrapped.

2. There's no logic in the technological singularity motivation

3. War assets and EMS need to give us a final choice in the matter.

They're looking at which ones pop up the most. That's the purpose of that thread. BioWare isn't taking specific ideas, really, they're asking fans what they think needs to be changed the most.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 17 mars 2012 - 05:20 .

[yuncas]

Uhh. Bumpity bump bump bump= END OF LINE. At least write a sentence or two of semi-coherent something or other. Come on.

[MattFini]

I absolutely love the unanimous declaration that StarChild sucks.

I cannot even begin to understand HOW that seemed like anything other than a terrible idea.

[keith123456789]

This Is Keith From Arizona Proud to say we are holding the line

[HackNFly]

humes spork wrote...

redknight38 wrote...

Ah, then that is more problematic. It still doesn't look good, however, and so it is still likely troublesome for Bioware.

Dude, the confidence interval (margin of error) of a 60,000 sample out of a population of 2,000,000 is .39%. Even accounting for sampling errors, response and coverage biases the MoE is still way below 3%.

Its not the only poll out there, and this also undervalues the importance of a strong core of fans that recommend your games to their friends.  Plus I feel this is what their PR wants, for it to look like its a minority, when it isn't.