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[shephard987]

GoblinSapper wrote...

shephard987 wrote...

Guys the charity site is back online.
67,980 at the moment.
Donate more to round out some numbers and fill a few kids stomachs!

Hold the Line

? I thought Childs Play donated videogames for needy kids in the hospital, not food.

Well, I assume while they're there they need something to eat, right? 
Then again, I don't know how hospitals work. 
Either way, it helps. 

Hold the Line

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@atghunter
great words my friend

[Razorsteel]

@ATGhunter, i'm jealous you have a C-64 and I only have a TRS-80 with a cassette drive.

Choices Do Matter- Hold The Line

[atghunter]

stargatefan1990 wrote...

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ive never Directly Replied to you But i feel i must, Your insights from Your PR angle to Posts like this you are a credit to this Movement, when i read your posts i have Duncan from DAO speaking them lol fitting because he is wise. anyway i have met plenty of Older Gamers i get on with most fine just as anyone
 

You do an old gamer honor Sir.  Heck, I'd love to have Duncan dubbing my voice.

Hold the Line

[InsaneNarwhal]

The overall mood of the thread has greatly improved since I left for a dinner break. I approve. Keep it ip guys.

[Bunzmaster]

Xellith wrote...

we were made promises by bioware and they blew it on so many levels. There is even a thread detailing the promises made and the ones that were broken. DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING UNTIL WE HAVE IT IN OUR COMPUTERS READY TO PLAY.

Anything else is just asking for a letdown. We cannot lose this momentum.

Exactly!
...and I STILL can't use my shepards face that I've used since ME1.

Our choices should matter. Hold the Line!

[atghunter]

Razorsteel wrote...

@ATGhunter, i'm jealous you have a C-64 and I only have a TRS-80 with a cassette drive.

Choices Do Matter- Hold The Line

Oh Trash 80, how we loved you.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@LeoSpike
welcome friend, we are all in this together.

[SkaldFish]

ALL: I don't think I posted this here yesterday, but apologies if I did. I'm posting it now because I think it ties back to some previous comments about "art" and the poor quality of the ending narrative being considered a defect:

In looking more closely at the content in the core of the story resolution, I think one thing that's problematic is the fact that it becomes very difficult to keep on suspending disbelief. I think that's mainly due to the fact that the narrative becomes a continuous sequence of tired tropes clumsily strung together. The "trope density" is off the charts. A quick (not neccessarily definitive) analysis is below, with each trope linked to a description from tvtropes.com:

[...stuff happens and...]
Shepard is, for the first time, introduced to a Sufficiently Advanced Alien, an Energy Being who, to take A Form You Are Comfortable With appears as an Adorably Precocious Child. This being, an ancient Artificial Intelligence, explains that he has seen so many Robot Wars across the millenia that, in an attempt to resolve the situation, he developed a Reset Button solution. In doing so, however, he has become a Well-Intentioned Extremist who sees the struggle between organics and synthetics as an Order vs Chaos problem in which his role is to restore order. His solution, creation of the Reapers, required him to Jump Off the Slippery Slope and accept that The Revolution Will Not Be Civilized; the most advanced civilzations will be periodically "processed" by this Horde of Alien Locusts to short-circuit the Robot War cycle.

After explaining I Did What I Had To Do (which may qualify as a bizarre twist on the Hannibal Lecture), the being claims (in a lightning-fast E = MC Hammer moment) that Shepard's presence "changes things," and presents him/her with a set of Final Solution choices. Each of these choices casually demands that Shepard cross his/her own Moral Event Horizon by presenting catastrophic variations on an End of the World As We Know It solution initiated via a Big Red Button Self-Destruct Mechanism.

In an act of Heroic Sacrifice, without a word of questioning, objection, or realization that "I Forgot I Could Change the Rules," Shepard selects an option and ends the trilogy with a Dying Moment of Awesome.

[Necrotron]

I couldn't find this thread, it was on page 2.

Modifié par Bathaius, 20 mars 2012 - 01:41 .

[SkaldFish]

atghunter wrote...

Razorsteel wrote...

@ATGhunter, i'm jealous you have a C-64 and I only have a TRS-80 with a cassette drive.

Choices Do Matter- Hold The Line

Oh Trash 80, how we loved you.

=sigh= Wrote my first program on a Commodore 64, [mumble-mumbledy] years ago. Ah, 64K of RAM -- who could possibly ever need more?

[Damate]

@donbaloo: Thanks for the input and perspective! And for speaking with civility and empathy.

@LeoSpike: Welcome! Your post was a great read and eloquently worded. Welcome to the ranks, I'm surely glad to 'hear' your voice among us.

@atghunter: Ah, the man himself! Thanks for all the thoughtful insights you've provided on this thread. And you're right: For the most part the vibe here is wonderful, the momentum is exciting and the sense of being united in a cause - and so many of us wanting to go about it in the best manner possible - is very fulfilling. So often the BSN gets a bad rap - deserved or otherwise - for negativity, complaining, trolling, etc -- it's fantastic to see threads like this are going strong and running smoothly.

Holding the line!
...while I give the kiddos their bath. XD

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

Oh and about my protest idea. Even if it will take longer to ship if on Saturday you can send a patch or a piece of paper with the N7 logo on it and the words "We will hold" written by magic marker I thank you. i think this type of protest has chance of getting media attention somewhere,it's not rude but it is kind of goofy and makes a point if enough people do it.

Please join in people.

Hold the line for as long as it takes people.

[Xellith]

The AI kid clearly states that ALL synthetic life will rebel and wipe out ALL organics. Yet the AI kid isnt wiping out all organics - just those with advanced technology. Major plot hole/bad writing/or the AI kid is just retarded.

Our choices should matter. Hold the Line!

Modifié par Xellith, 20 mars 2012 - 01:43 .

[RazorrX]

atghunter wrote...

Razorsteel wrote...

@ATGhunter, i'm jealous you have a C-64 and I only have a TRS-80 with a cassette drive.

Choices Do Matter- Hold The Line

Oh Trash 80, how we loved you.

Man I do not know how many pages of reports and specifications I wrote back in the day on a TRS 80 Model 2 - the one with the 8" floppy disks.

That thing payed for itself thousands of times over back then.

[Razorsteel]

This movement to me is profound. So much so ,i'm spending my 48th birthday here,that should tell you something.

Our Choices Should Matter- Hold The Line

[G0ldmember]

billyzero wrote...

I always look forward to reading your posts, atghunter. I'd love your insight into today's events regarding IGN videos ridiculing the movement, the $20 price reduction today on the game, the story making to some of the larger news outlets and, of course, Bioware's silence today.

This. A thousand times this. Though I dont think your expertise also lies in using other companies which you sponsor with advertisments as shields. Personally, I think IGN and the likes just want to stir up controversy (trolling if you will) to get more hits. Its the nature of the beast, getting attention.

As passionate as most of us are, I dont think we can hold out indefinitly. In the long run, we will get political non answers, "olive branches"  and more prodding and poking by EA adversaries (e.g. review- game- and opinion websites) to put us in bad daylight. Simply put: We will be ridiculed and ignored the moment Bioware releases its "weapon pack dlc" for multiplayer and will be bought by the millions. It will set a bad predicement to other game companies that the line for maximum profits through DLC has not been met.

Edit: Speaking of C64. Just found a music stream today that was totally new to me. Its called "chiptunes".

Takes you straight back to the Commodore64 and NES era. Nostalgic feelings guarateed.

listen.di.fm/public3/chiptunes.pls

Modifié par G0ldmember, 20 mars 2012 - 01:53 .

[RazorrX]

Xellith wrote...

The AI kid clearly states that ALL synthetic life will rebel and wipe out ALL organics. Yet the AI kid isnt wiping out all organics - just those with advanced technology. Major plot hole/bad writing/or the AI kid is just retarded.

Our choices should matter. Hold the Line!

Nah, I think he meant that the synthetics would not just stop at the advanced species but actually wipe em all out.  SO in his way of thinking, he was allowing the other species to flourish for as long as possible.

[RazorrX]

Razorsteel wrote...

This movement to me is profound. So much so ,i'm spending my 48th birthday here,that should tell you something.

Our Choices Should Matter- Hold The Line

Glad you are older than me! 

(but not by much) 

[SkaldFish]

Razorsteel wrote...

This movement to me is profound. So much so ,i'm spending my 48th birthday here,that should tell you something.

Our Choices Should Matter- Hold The Line

+10 Paragon!!!

[DerekDraygon777]

Another day, another collection of 30+ postings of support, inquisitiveness, humor, civility, and lively discussion. Yet we all remain unified and focused on the goal, even with those rough patches.

ATGHunter, I commend and salute you as a gamer of 24 years, both for your eloquence and your wisdom in giving a guiding hand to this movement. Thank you very much for helping others understand the finer points, the basic necessities of facilitating and maintaining this effort, and simply showing your support alongside so many others who feel just as passionately as you do. This thread wouldn't be the same without you.

Continue to hold the line, everyone. I'm doing what I can to extend it in my own community during my errands and routines away from the PC. Spread the word, educate, be civil and respectful, and do not allow tempers and anger to get the better of you. We're above this, and this thread proves exactly that.

In closing, a bit of humor:

"The Retake Mass Effect movement once had a leader. His name was Marauder Shields.

"He held the line for as long as he could, but lost his life trying to protect Commander Shepard from an ending unworthy of his efforts and sacrifices.

"Now we, as followers of that same movement, take up his banner in his stead, so that his cause will not be forgotten, that Shepard might one day obtain a true, glorious, and just finale to his long and arduous journey.

"Never forget Marauder Shields. We are his legacy. Hold the Line."

[Xellith]

RazorrX wrote...

Xellith wrote...

The AI kid clearly states that ALL synthetic life will rebel and wipe out ALL organics. Yet the AI kid isnt wiping out all organics - just those with advanced technology. Major plot hole/bad writing/or the AI kid is just retarded.

Our choices should matter. Hold the Line!

Nah, I think he meant that the synthetics would not just stop at the advanced species but actually wipe em all out.  SO in his way of thinking, he was allowing the other species to flourish for as long as possible.

Yes but HE controls a synthetic race. By his own logic - he should have been completely destroying all organic life.  By his own logic he has already not killed every organic and therefore his entire reason for the cycle is just outright retarded... or bad writing..

Our choices should matter. Hold the Line!

Modifié par Xellith, 20 mars 2012 - 01:49 .

[InsaneNarwhal]

G0ldmember wrote...

billyzero wrote...

I always look forward to reading your posts, atghunter. I'd love your insight into today's events regarding IGN videos ridiculing the movement, the $20 price reduction today on the game, the story making to some of the larger news outlets and, of course, Bioware's silence today.

This. A thousand times this. Though I dont think your expertise also lies in using other companies which you sponsor with advertisments as shields. Personally, I think IGN and the likes just want to stir up controversy (trolling if you will) to get more hits. Its the nature of the beast, getting attention.

As passionate as most of us are, I dont think we can hold out indefinitly. In the long run, we will get political non answers, "olive branches"  and more prodding and poking by EA adversaries (e.g. review- game- and opinion websites) to put us in bad daylight. Simply put: We will be ridiculed and ignored the moment Bioware releases its "weapon pack dlc" for multiplayer and will be bought by the millions. It will set a bad predicement to other game companies that the line for maximum profits through DLC has not been met.

No one is saying indefinitely. They're saying until we get an answer that reaffirms our trust in the company or drives us away forever. We can be here for quite some time though. Stay civil, stay loud.

[wheelierdan]

Razorsteel wrote...

This movement to me is profound. So much so ,i'm spending my 48th birthday here,that should tell you something.

Our Choices Should Matter- Hold The Line

happy birtthday to you good sir:wizard:
 (almost a party hat)

[Reptilian Rob]

wheelierdan wrote...

Razorsteel wrote...

This movement to me is profound. So much so ,i'm spending my 48th birthday here,that should tell you something.

Our Choices Should Matter- Hold The Line

happy birtthday to you good sir:wizard:
 (almost a party hat)

Happy birthday! Space magic all around!