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[JeffZero]

For the record, these statements that BioWare 'completely' turned over the writing team for ME3 simply aren't true. Patrick Weekes and Mac Walters have been with the series from the start and Weekes' wonderful wife (yes, I did that for alliteration's sake first and foremost) has been a passionate contributor for a long time as well.

[OneWithTheAssassins]

I'll just leave this here for insparation...
http://browse.devian...?order=5&q=mass effect tali#/d4tfemd

[Candoo]

I just wrote Peter Nowak, who is an award winning journalist here in Canada. He covers anything science and tech. I met him on a bus a few years ago when we were going to a Net Neutrality protest rally on Parliament Hill in Ottawa. A really good guy.

Coincidently, he was just included in an article talking about Bioware, and Mass Effect 3, a few days ago. http://news.sympatic...effect/7b9759bb

I've given him the heads-up on Retake Mass Effect 3 / Hold the Line, and hopefully he will respond.

[Shinobu]

Syrellaris wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

I reposted atghunter's "faux olive branch" discussion on the Operation:Goliath thread in News and Announcements last Friday night when the thing got started. It got taken down pretty rapidly. I suggest we keep reposting it to their Official announcements threads whenever they dangle a shiny in front of us.

I'm trying to get a sense of how many sales Bioware is losing (because obviously they won't tell us). I've created a poll for it, but it keeps getting lost in the rapidity of the forum. If you have gotten your friends to either buy or not buy ME3, please take my poll. I tried to make it unbiased so the people who liked the ending could feel able to respond. Originally I didn't post it to Retake threads, because that would bias my sample, but now I just want data.

http://social.biowar...50/polls/29839/

Yes by all means keep doing that, its not like that generates hate for the movement.  When you signed up with these forums you agreed to the forum rules, and as the forum mods have explained countless times, keep the topics in the threads that are created for it.

Reposting this and everything else regarding this topic into threads that have nothing to do with it, will just get you banned or worse all topics regarding it locked. Including this one. So in short, you are not helping.

On the contrary, it was relevant, since Operation:Goliath was a faux olive branch. But I will use my own words next time instead of quoting someone who may not agree with my usage of their posts. No need for sarcasm.

[Agamemnon2589]

lightsnow13 wrote...

tl;dr.

Could someone explain it - or have people ACTUALLY read this? Why? It seems like a waste of time.

Are you referring to the OP? The entire thread in general? It may be a waste of time to you, but to a lot of people - namely, everyone on this thread - it is. If you have nothing constructive or dazzlingly brilliant to say, please don't troll us. We do actually have a purpose in this thread, believe it or not. 

[Carnage752]

Candoo wrote...

I just wrote Peter Nowak, who is an award winning journalist here in Canada. He covers anything science and tech. I met him on a bus a few years ago when we were going to a Net Neutrality protest rally on Parliament Hill in Ottawa. A really good guy.

Coincidently, he was just included in an article talking about Bioware, and Mass Effect 3, a few days ago. http://news.sympatic...effect/7b9759bb

I've given him the heads-up on Retake Mass Effect 3 / Hold the Line, and hopefully he will respond.

Good job! We will take all the positive media we can get! Thanks for holding the line with us.

[Luiginius]

Read the comments section of that article Chris tweeted. Also, the way the facebook likes are growing, sooner or later they're going to change the adjective describing the amount of disappointed players.

[SkaldFish]

Carnage752 wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

I know this is a bit late, but I read the comment from Mr. Woo. Am I the only one who felt that Mr. Woo was being a tad bit condescending? I mean, I don't think Bioware really want that after this whole fiasco.

With all the negative comments they made about him I think he deserved to be a little snarky to them. We act CIVIL around here, we don't harass or insult Bioware employees. They deserved it.

^^^This!

[IndustrializedTaco]

Did they cancel the thread with over 1800 responses on it? I can't find it...

[IndustrializedTaco]

SkaldFish wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

I know this is a bit late, but I read the comment from Mr. Woo. Am I the only one who felt that Mr. Woo was being a tad bit condescending? I mean, I don't think Bioware really want that after this whole fiasco.

With all the negative comments they made about him I think he deserved to be a little snarky to them. We act CIVIL around here, we don't harass or insult Bioware employees. They deserved it.

^^^This!

Good point. Thank you I hadn't read most of this forum. I'm a little mis-informed.
Mr. Woo if you read this post, please accept my apolgies.

[Carnage752]

Luiginius wrote...

Read the comments section of that article Chris tweeted. Also, the way the facebook likes are growing, sooner or later they're going to change the adjective describing the amount of disappointed players.

To quote a great marine biologist:

They are going to ignore this particular problem until it swims up and BITES THEM ON THE ASS!

[Carnage752]

beetlebailey123 wrote...

SkaldFish wrote...

Carnage752 wrote...

beetlebailey123 wrote...

I know this is a bit late, but I read the comment from Mr. Woo. Am I the only one who felt that Mr. Woo was being a tad bit condescending? I mean, I don't think Bioware really want that after this whole fiasco.

With all the negative comments they made about him I think he deserved to be a little snarky to them. We act CIVIL around here, we don't harass or insult Bioware employees. They deserved it.

^^^This!

Good point. Thank you I hadn't read most of this forum. I'm a little mis-informed.
Mr. Woo if you read this post, please accept my apolgies.

It's all good. We just have to remember to stay pleasant and civil with our negotiations with Bioware and it's respective employees.

[JeffZero]

GoldenSkans9 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

For the record, these statements that BioWare 'completely' turned over the writing team for ME3 simply aren't true. Patrick Weekes and Mac Walters have been with the series from the start and Weekes' wonderful wife (yes, I did that for alliteration's sake first and foremost) has been a passionate contributor for a long time as well.

While that may be true, repurposing Drew Karpyshyn was critical IMO.

Oh, definitely.

[NPH11]

Candoo wrote...

I just wrote Peter Nowak, who is an award winning journalist here in Canada. He covers anything science and tech. I met him on a bus a few years ago when we were going to a Net Neutrality protest rally on Parliament Hill in Ottawa. A really good guy.

Coincidently, he was just included in an article talking about Bioware, and Mass Effect 3, a few days ago. http://news.sympatic...effect/7b9759bb

I've given him the heads-up on Retake Mass Effect 3 / Hold the Line, and hopefully he will respond.

The same Nowak who RTed this?

Victor Lucas ‏ @Victor_Lucas
Negativity about ME3 ending reminds me of outcry over BSG finale. For the record: I loved both. Bioware has made an interactive masterpiece.

Modifié par NPH11, 20 mars 2012 - 03:09 .

[wheelierdan]

lightsnow13 wrote...

tl;dr.

Could someone explain it - or have people ACTUALLY read this? Why? It seems like a waste of time.

were you happy with the ending of the game? if so why
if not, why not?

[Jedifan421]

Wight7:07 PM on March 19, 2012Give me a break, Mr. Sapieha.

Any fan of literature is aware of the plot device called the Deus Ex Machina, that magical character that comes out of nowhere to tie up all the loose ends and provide all the answers. The star child, who is nowhere to be found in either of the previous two installments - who isn't even hinted at - is one of these plot devices. This is LAZY WRITING. I would be embarrassed to have to resort to the use of one in any novel I put down on paper.

And his motivations are sophomoric. In order to save biological life from dying at the hands of their own synthetic creations, he creates a race of synthetics that wipes out all life in the galaxy anyway? To save them from dying he has to kill them? Insane parents use this logic just before they slit their kid's throats to "save them" from the demons inside of them.

I wasn't just disappointed in the game, I was openly embarrassed for the writers. I live in Bioware's home turf in Edmonton and know many of the writers. I know that they completely turned over the writing team for ME3, and most of the new writers hadn't even played the first two games. It shows.

But the big question is then...why didn't the old writers go over with the new writers all the continuity and choices that could impact the ending over all three games?

The answer: Because they just didn't care or they were rushed by EA or this was all planned out to be bull**** from the start and our choices never mattered in the first place. 
Once again, I support this movement voraciously but I will never buy another BioWare/EA game again.

Remember Marauder Shields and Hold the Line!

[stargatefan1990]

JeffZero wrote...

GoldenSkans9 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

For the record, these statements that BioWare 'completely' turned over the writing team for ME3 simply aren't true. Patrick Weekes and Mac Walters have been with the series from the start and Weekes' wonderful wife (yes, I did that for alliteration's sake first and foremost) has been a passionate contributor for a long time as well.

While that may be true, repurposing Drew Karpyshyn was critical IMO.

Oh, definitely.

we most likely would not be in this mess if he was not Repurposed

[sabasebatyne]

@wheelierdan

Obvious trolls are obvious. Leave them be and they'll go away.

Modifié par sabasebatyne, 20 mars 2012 - 03:16 .

[Carnage752]

sabasebatyne wrote...

@wheelierdan

Obvious trolls are obvious. Leave them be and they'll go away.

Please try and be more polite in your statement. Insults are not a good way to win people over.

Modifié par Carnage752, 20 mars 2012 - 03:17 .

[Candoo]

NPH11 wrote...


The same Nowak who RTed this?

RTed this?

[IndustrializedTaco]

stargatefan1990 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

GoldenSkans9 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

For the record, these statements that BioWare 'completely' turned over the writing team for ME3 simply aren't true. Patrick Weekes and Mac Walters have been with the series from the start and Weekes' wonderful wife (yes, I did that for alliteration's sake first and foremost) has been a passionate contributor for a long time as well.

While that may be true, repurposing Drew Karpyshyn was critical IMO.

Oh, definitely.

we most likely would not be in this mess if he was not Repurposed

I miss Drew. I did like Walters, but I wish Drew was there to lead the charge. He knew Mass Effect, and he would of never let this happen.

[sabasebatyne]

Carnage752 wrote...

sabasebatyne wrote...

@wheelierdan

Obvious trolls are obvious. Leave them be and they'll go away.

Sorry?

My post was in reply to this:

wheelierdan wrote...

lightsnow13 wrote...

tl;dr.

Could someone explain it - or have people ACTUALLY read this? Why? It seems like a waste of time.

were you happy with the ending of the game? if so why
if not, why not?

... the troll being lightsnow13, and others like him/her.
Sorry for confusion.

[LeoSpike]

I saw a link earlier to a website where Drew talked about an ending to the game that was scrapped. Comments about the ending from readers were mixed. But that ending really didn't match up with the endings in the game.