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[DoctorCrowtgamer]

Xellith wrote...

They will fix the ending. Thats what im shooting for. Thats what im gonna get.

yeah as long as we stick together that will happen.  All we have to do is not fight each other and not give in and buy their stuff no matter how long it takes and they will have no choice.

Hold the line for as long as it takes people.

[Mirandr]

Loaded my last save game in mass effect 2 and played the ending there. Watching mass effect 2 ending and then thinking back at the mass effect 3 ending makes me very sad. How can they go from an ending like they have in mass effect 2 to the hollow/bad ending in mass effect 3???? its just insane.

Hold the line!!!!!

[Lestatman]

Well I've cancelled my sub for SWTOR and I remained polite in stating why and left the door open for me to return. I know I'm only 1 customer and they won't lose sleep over it but I just couldn't motivate myself to play it due to the PR tactics from EA/Bioware at the moment.

[Harbing3r]

Bachuck wrote...

*snip

No, this is a fight between Bioware and their consumers. We fight our own battles. Leave everyone else out of it. 

Fully agree with this

[cyrrant]

Lestatman wrote...

Well I've cancelled my sub for SWTOR and I remained polite in stating why and left the door open for me to return. I know I'm only 1 customer and they won't lose sleep over it but I just couldn't motivate myself to play it due to the PR tactics from EA/Bioware at the moment.

I canceled mine last night, mentioned that my faith in the Bioware name was what kept me subscribed, that the ME3 ending had destroyed that faith, and that until something was done to restore it, I wouldn't be resubscribing.

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

[Jamie9]

Lestatman wrote...

Well I've cancelled my sub for SWTOR and I remained polite in stating why and left the door open for me to return. I know I'm only 1 customer and they won't lose sleep over it but I just couldn't motivate myself to play it due to the PR tactics from EA/Bioware at the moment.

I keep saying because it's worth mentioning: one more person is all it takes for change.

Yes, if just one person cancelled their subscription it wouldn't bother them, but I've seen countless posts saying the same. For standing up for what you believe, I salute you Lestatman!

[cyrrant]

Harbing3r wrote...

Bachuck wrote...

*snip

No, this is a fight between Bioware and their consumers. We fight our own battles. Leave everyone else out of it. 

Fully agree with this

Yes, unless a big voice comes to us and wants to join the ranks of their own free will, there's no reason to go out bothering celebrities.  I ESPECIALLY agree that pestering the voice actors would be a monumental waste of time and possibly a PR nightmare of our own.

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

[Coralie]

Syrellaris wrote...

There is a part in the game that interests me greatly. Thats after you
completed the final mission. The game reverts back to before the
cerberus base attack. Why? According to the popup, so yoou can free-roam
and do DLC. However Bioware has never done it this way before.

They
always made it so that big DLC stories require you to import your
single player savegame, or start a new character. Why change that in
ME3?

I don't have any DLC installed for ME1, but in ME2 after the suicide mission you can continue to roam around, do side quests, and yes - complete DLC. I did both Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival on a character that had already finished ME2.

In ME3 after the Cerberus base the galaxy map locks and you can only go to Earth - I presume they kicked you back to before that point in case they do release mid-game DLC.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

Thank you everyone who canceled a TOR account. i know TOR isn't Mass effect but taht is one of those things that will really get the stockholder attention. Every lost accound is not just a lost $60 game sale it's a lost $15 for years to come. That sort of thing really sends a message and I know it must have been hard to do if you just got the game. thank you all for standing together.

Hold the line for as long as it takes people.

[Xellith]

http://www.videogame...res_a_no_1.html

Modifié par Xellith, 20 mars 2012 - 04:42 .

[hortanium]

I think this has already been posted but here is a link to BBC News http://www.bbc.co.uk...ology-17444719.

It ranked at 7/10 on the most popular stories on their site when I checked it.

[Ender1221]

Posted this in a thread about the BBC story. Thought I'd get your take:


Hmmmm... Am I the only one who, after reading the article and finding out about the "counter" movement, sees our fight as eerily similar to the one playing out in Mass Effect 3? We are the Galaxy, BiowarEA are the Reapers, the members fighting BiowarEA through uncivil means (threats, rage) are Cerberus, and this "Counter" movement are kinda like the Heretic Geth. Hmmmmm....

P.S. Please don't take this post to mean that I think BiowarEA is evil and wants to destroy ppl.

Hold the Line!

Modifié par Ender1221, 20 mars 2012 - 04:50 .

[TurambarEA]

Jere85 wrote...

TurambarEA wrote...

This thread is moving way too fast to keep up. Just home - anything I've missed in the past five hours or so?

Not too much, maybe you missed retailers giving full refunds for me3

Thanks for the update - I caught that Amazon were 'maybe' doing it (based on chatter here) but that's confirmed then? Any other retailers getting in on the refunds. I must admit that I emailed my EB Games a few days ago and asked them what the policy is on refunds for games with online passes/redeemable codes. Haven't heard back from them yet!

[Fulgrim88]

DoctorCrowtgamer wrote...

Thank you everyone who canceled a TOR account. i know TOR isn't Mass effect but taht is one of those things that will really get the stockholder attention. Every lost accound is not just a lost $60 game sale it's a lost $15 for years to come. That sort of thing really sends a message and I know it must have been hard to do if you just got the game. thank you all for standing together.

Hold the line for as long as it takes people.

That's a bit of a two edged sword, seeing as it hits a different studio than the one involved with Mass Effect, and might actually cost people their jobs if this will be a continuing trend.

On the other hand, it's a fast way to have actual impact on Shareholder values and show your discontent.

So the way I see it, those who were already planning to cancel their sub, do it.
But those who still genuinely enjoy the game, don't punish people for something they haven't done.

Modifié par Fulgrim88, 20 mars 2012 - 04:45 .

[Hicks233]

azereus2 wrote...

im serius about this, the only damage control they have to do is fire the writter and then give a full free expansion pack with what ever was planned to be the ending.

Having someone loose their job would be an appaling thing to hope for. When the quality of the product has been high throughout then it becomes a question of what went wrong with the ending, if we weren't satisfied with the product matching its description and advertising otherwise there wouldn't be such a backlash against one particular aspect.

[TF_FTW]

I started playing ME1 again, after experienced all the endings from ME3 .
The LORE gap is tremendous between ME1 and ME 3 .
I will present to you just a few of the major elements of the main plot :

ME1 LORE :
- According to Sovereign , Mass Effect Relays where created by the Reapers, and they have the role to make sure that the organics will follow a certain evolution trajectory .
- Mass Effect Relays can be shut down according to Sovereign, if the Reapers want to .
- Shepard find the Conduit and brings it to CITADEL
- Keepers communication with Reapers, is shut down

ME3 Ending Lore :
- The CHILD AI, or GOD LIKE AI for the current state of GALAXY, states that he is living on CITADEL . How come he didn’t react to the CONDUIT ? How come in this cycle, almost 50000 years since the Protheans cycle he didn’t discover the fact that the Keepers will not listen to him ?
- Living on CITADEL the AI should have known that Shepard was aware of the Sovereign presence. More why would he allowed Shepard to go find the Conduit in the first place ? He could had easily control Sovereign to drop by the CITADEL right after Shepard was named Spectre, and the first discussions and proves about Reapers presence where revealed by Tali’s recordings extracted from the Geth memory cache ?
- Bioware can spin this and say that the AI was at sleep for 50000 years, and that the Reapers proceeded based on precise instructions. Well they could had actually do it by changing 2 phrases in the current ending. …. ( interesting coalesced edit idea … can’t be done until pcc packers is done , I assume )


I was baffled that “In the last hours of Mass Effect 3” I see a piece of A4 paper with the ending ideas wrote down in lets say 10 rows? Importing the char from ME1 to ME2 and finally to ME3 had more description rows regarding the plot.

I will not go down the software development road any more than : you actually decided the ending in the last iteration , and if you are still using waterfall …
Fun Facts :
Fun fact 1 : all the files, except the language files, from : "...Mass Effect 3\\BIOGame\\CookedPCConsole\\ .. " where actually modified on 01.31.2012 at 19.51 ,
Fun fact 2 : Mr. Hudson interview in January about multiple endings. From Fun Fact 1 results, that there is a big chance that he didn't knew that his team had nothing except RGB in store for endings .
Ohh wait Casey, didn't you see the ending memo from "In the last hours of Mass Effect 3" ?

P.S: Just for curiosity, can Bioware provide the Test Exit Report for Mass Effect 3, i am talking about GOLD/Final build of course ? ( I am more interested in the feedback part of it, not the amount of bugs found,fixed etc in it )

[sabasebatyne]

Ender1221 wrote...

*snip*

P.S. Please don't take this post to mean that I think BiowarEA is evil and wants to destroy ppl. I just mean that, right now, they are the enemy.

Hold the Line!

Such terms as "enemy" seem rather inflammatory, honestly. I don't view BW or EA as my enemy, I just think they are currently misguided and incorrect in their response.

[stargatefan1990]

Ender1221 wrote...

Posted this in a thread about the BBC story. Thought I'd get your take:


Hmmmm... Am I the only one who, after reading the article and finding out about the "counter" movement, sees our fight as eerily similar to the one playing out in Mass Effect 3? We are the Galaxy, BiowarEA are the Reapers, the members fighting BiowarEA through uncivil means (threats, rage) are Cerberus, and this "Counter" movement are kinda like the Heretic Geth. Hmmmmm....

P.S. Please don't take this post to mean that I think BiowarEA is evil and wants to destroy ppl. I just mean that, right now, they are the enemy.

Hold the Line!

please do not call them the enemy they have released the most amazing games but most importantly that is a quote the media could use against us so please edit and Rephrase that

[Fulgrim88]

Hicks233 wrote...

azereus2 wrote...

im serius about this, the only damage control they have to do is fire the writter and then give a full free expansion pack with what ever was planned to be the ending.

Having someone loose their job would be an appaling thing to hope for. When the quality of the product has been high throughout then it becomes a question of what went wrong with the ending, if we weren't satisfied with the product matching its description and advertising otherwise there wouldn't be such a backlash against one particular aspect.

Couldn't agree more. I wouldn't want for anyone to loose his or her about this. Not even Casey or Marc - because apart from that ending, we had some stellar writing and story decisions from both.
They don't deserve so much hate for 1% of an otherwise great game - even if that 1% was so very crucial

stargatefan1990 wrote...

please do not call them the enemy
they have released the most amazing games but most importantly that is a
quote the media could use against us so please edit and Rephrase that

And again, agreed.

Any kind of (passive) agressive behaviour only works against us.
Keep it civil, be polite

Modifié par Fulgrim88, 20 mars 2012 - 04:49 .

[TurambarEA]

cyrrant wrote...

TurambarEA wrote...

This thread is moving way too fast to keep up. Just home - anything I've missed in the past five hours or so?

BBC covered the issue with a fairly even hand.  There are things in the article I take issue with, such as the fact that it's not all about having a "happy ending" but that we want ALL the endings we were promised, and that we're not so much angry fans as we are angry consumers with no actual outlet (since a lot of us can't return the game, because it's a game).

If that strikes a chord with you, you can use their contact form to send them a quick note about the ending: news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ifs/hi/newsid_4000000/newsid_4000500/4000537.stm

Be sure that you remain civil if you do decide to send them anything, and try to thank them for reporting on this without resorting to the means of the gaming press.

Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line

EDIT: Should include a link to the article: www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17444719

Thanks for that. The BBC article is far more even handed/issue-aware than the majority of the week-one game media were.

[Harbing3r]

NZ and SA websites publishing articles as well:

www.nzherald.co.nz/games/news/article.cfm

technology.iafrica.com/news/games/785228.html

EDIT: apologies if any repetition

Modifié par Harbing3r, 20 mars 2012 - 04:49 .

[wepeel_]

Ender1221 wrote...

Posted this in a thread about the BBC story. Thought I'd get your take:
[snip]

Good post. A lot of people share that idea, and as annoying as it is for them, that point of view has probably occurred to EA as well. Just like how review sites are covered in comments about poor endings, and how googling mass effect 3 leads to articles about the retake movement as much as to actual reviews. They know it, but they keep quiet about it. But that will not makes us go away.

Here's another ME concept (posted earlier as well most likely) that seems prophetically true now:

[Sentr0]

At this point i'd say it's over, too much time has passed and by now they have already decided: no dlc ending. Because otherwise they'd say immediatly, to avoid anymore damage... by listening they take time giving hope so less people ask for a refund/dont buy the game

[t_i_e_]

wepeel_ wrote...

Ender1221 wrote...

Posted this in a thread about the BBC story. Thought I'd get your take:
[snip]

Good post. A lot of people share that idea, and as annoying as it is for them, that point of view has probably occurred to EA as well. Just like how review sites are covered in comments about poor endings, and how googling mass effect 3 leads to articles about the retake movement as much as to actual reviews. They know it, but they keep quiet about it. But that will not makes us go away.

Here's another ME concept (posted earlier as well most likely) that seems prophetically true now:

^    ^
Loved this.


Also I returned ME3.

[wheelierdan]

Sentr0 wrote...

At this point i'd say it's over, too much time has passed and by now they have already decided: no dlc ending. Because otherwise they'd say immediatly, to avoid anymore damage... by listening they take time giving hope so less people ask for a refund/dont buy the game

these thingstake longer than a week plus they have motivations to wait tillmore pople have played/beaten the game before they say anything.  I don't like it either but patience is required.