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[Emphyr]

Everytime i want to do a replay in ME ( 1 2 ore 3) i am thinking of this.








so i exit game and try to find another game to replay.

Modifié par Emphyr, 20 mars 2012 - 07:19 .

[Leninsaurus]

I just wanted to thank the OP and the users who have been quoted in the first post for their very insightful comments on the situation. Thanks for taking the time to analyze it and give us a different perspective to the whole debate!

I sincerely hope Bioware will leave their bunker sooner or later, because if they do not adress this problem directly and clearly they are going to loose a massive amount of fans or at least make many of their fans incredibly careful to believe their word and to buy their games. I really hope they will realise that this debacle is far more than just frustration from a "minor part of the fanbase", but could end up severly weaking their whole credibility as well as their sales.
I truly hope, that Bioware is not only listening, but will act at one point as well.

Modifié par Leninsaurus, 20 mars 2012 - 07:22 .

[HALO_Project]

Just wanted to post a link to this poll in here. It gives a way for people to be specific about what they would like the ending to be, even if they like it as it is. Give it a look and Hold The Line.

http://social.biowar...=dd&search=&p=1

Modifié par HALO_Project, 20 mars 2012 - 11:09 .

[Gespenst]

I was sitting here thinking how much I'd like to play some ME3 multiplayer - or start a new character in ME2 to get the last four achievments that I need between ME2 and 3.

And then I remember that I'm mad at Bioware!

And then I thought about the ending again and I just didn't want to anymore.

So I sat back and tried to think of something else to play but what is there...

And then I found a game I picked up for about £3 a few months ago...

Really? Has it really come to this? Do you see what you've driven me to Bioware?!

awwnuts07 wrote...

http://www.fmvmagazine.com/?p=6565

Not sure if this has already been posted. But spread the word. Good PR for the Line

That's nice, good PR I mean. Most of the things I've read about the fans dissatisfied with Mass Effect 3 act like we're a bunch of five year olds throwing a paddy because we just can't appreciate a more "mature" ending. Not realising that just having everything blow up doesn’t make something magically better than just having everything end happily ever after and that we don't dislike it because it's a sad end (although I did want my little blue babies) but because it's bad end - in terms of quality. (And because it throws out the entire story and it's themes leading up to that point etc. etc.)

In fact even with everything that was lost because of the way it was excecuted I didn't even feel sad. I felt exactly nothing.

Hold the line!

Modifié par Gespenst, 20 mars 2012 - 07:24 .

[Lil One]

Wildhide wrote...

I have been trying to replay the game, but I wind up losing interest after an 20 or 30 minutes <snip>

Same here.  It just... doesn't work.


It is hard to keep holding the line, hope comes and go, for me any way.  I guess I feel silly feeling this way over a series of games, but I do.  First series of games I got this involved with...  If nothing happens it may very well be the last too.

[Qwd666]

Baldurs Gate wrote...

Finally Closure



Edit: Thread

Brilliant!! :D

[Emphyr]

Lil One wrote...

Wildhide wrote...

I have been trying to replay the game, but I wind up losing interest after an 20 or 30 minutes <snip>

Same here.  It just... doesn't work.


It is hard to keep holding the line, hope comes and go, for me any way.  I guess I feel silly feeling this way over a series of games, but I do.  First series of games I got this involved with...  If nothing happens it may very well be the last too.

Hold on!

Go play a game you liked ( espacially one with an ending that made you feel like a heroe !)

try Ur quan masters ( Star Control 2) its a masterpiece in dos in the SF games . Bioware must have played it also because there are many things in that game that are used by Bioware.

You can also read a Book written by Jack Vance. ( also a big inspiration  to bioware).
take a beer, relax,  get some sleep,

But Do not leave this line!

Modifié par Emphyr, 20 mars 2012 - 07:29 .

[dfstone]

"We would like to clarify that we are actively and seriously taking all player feedback into consideration and have ruled nothing out," reads the statement. "At this time we are still collecting and considering your feedback and have not made a decision regarding requests to change the ending."

BioWare considering changing Mass Effect 3 ending

[punkenjunki3]

Lil One wrote...


It is hard to keep holding the line, hope comes and go, for me any way.  I guess I feel silly feeling this way over a series of games, but I do.  First series of games I got this involved with...  If nothing happens it may very well be the last too.

Dont lose hope, I can totally understand its disheartening. But its certainly nothing to be feeling silly about, just because gaming isnt as widely recognised as a past time/interest/hobby etc.. doesnt mean people arent as invested in it. Its just the same as seeing your favourite team or country sports team lose an important match or something similar. I know ive been against using analogies for other mediums but these are ones that closesly resonate in some way because its an investment of time effor, money and so on.

Keep hope. Hold the line.

[Hydralysk]

dfstone wrote...

"We would like to clarify that we are actively and seriously taking all player feedback into consideration and have ruled nothing out," reads the statement. "At this time we are still collecting and considering your feedback and have not made a decision regarding requests to change the ending."

BioWare considering changing Mass Effect 3 ending

That's just bioware saying we aren't commited to anything that we're willing to say.

[Sentr0]

mi_dad wrote...

The Almighty Ali wrote...

Seems some of you need some inspiration.
Though make you you don't get burned out, watch a movie and do something to take your mind off this for some hours, then you'll soon be back fit for fight again.
Can only provide this for now though.

Simply amazing, had to drag the window over to the 47" screen and switch the audio to the Home theater.
This guy definately nailed it. 

Must Watch

Awesome video! Kudos to the author

[whitetailback41]

I am part of the silent "majority" that EA and various news outlets believe are satisfied with this game. I have not participated in this movement in any way, and I am not even a member of any social media sites. I have, however, been a long term customer of BioWare. I've purchased just about every major release that BioWare has ever produced. I've bought more DLC than I care to admit, and I was subscribed to SWTOR until this fiasco made it apparent that BioWare has totally lost what I once admired about them.

They believed in telling great stories that were heavily influenced by player choice. It is the driving factor behind their success. Until DA2, it was the main factor that differentiated their products from other titles on the market. Now that they are moving away from allowing players to truly influence the outcome of their games, there is little to differentiate BioWare's products from their competitors' offerings. Truthfully speaking, there are better options for RPGs and third-person shooters on the market as far as gameplay is concerned.

Most of the competitors' offerings do not allow the player to meaningfully impact the outcome of the story. BioWare titles used to do exactly that. The inclusion of choice allowed players to become personally invested in the stories and characters that BioWare created, and we loved them for it. Now that BioWare is moving away from player influence on the outcome of the story, I believe it is time for me to move on.

If I wanted to mindlessly blast enemies in a third person shooter with a predetermined ending, I'd be happily playing Gears of War 3, not Mass Effect 3.

I'll buy another BioWare game when EA proves to me that such a thing still exists and not merely in name only.

Hold the line.

[wheelierdan]

Qwd666 wrote...

Baldurs Gate wrote...

Finally Closure



Edit: Thread

Brilliant!! :D

when it got to james vega i lost it!

[Fulgrim88]

Baldurs Gate wrote...

Finally Closure



Edit: Thread

Good god

I think I love you for posting that

[Embermage13]

savagejuicebox wrote...

What i find interesting about this situation is that i have never posted on a video game forum before. I have never felt the need. This is the first time that i HAD to say something, about a past time that i enjoy so much, this ending left me so empty that i NEEDED to make sure someone else felt the way i did, that someone was as confused and angry like i was(and still am). I am very amazed at the amount of thought and care put into all of your posts, i am proud to say i am a gamer because of people like you, very proud. Continue to post wonderful and thought provoking entries and i will continue to come back and read more.

HOLD THE LINE!!

I think your feeling of need is probably because, as I tried to explain earlier, but do not feel like I did a very good job in so doing, part of the new social media phenomenon which is significant for PR departments and companies in general to consider is that if they hear nothing from any given purchaser, that can be interpreted as satisfaction, or at least a disinterest which precludes active ill-will. I am intrigued to see how it will play out in this and future scenarioes when we are now faced with the digital polarisation of conflict. The bits are either on or off, the sides are either/or, and doing nothing is functionally the same as supporting the side which has displeased you.

This is nothing more or less than a question of flawed product design, failures of quality control, and ultimately a testbed for modern corporate/consumer relationships. My Mattock and I are not going to be anywhere else until there is a satisfactory admission of the delivery of a flawed product and appropriate restitution as a gesture of goodwill and legitimate interest in having further business.

[wheelierdan]

everything they say is the same, hey dudes we are like listening so hard right now... but not DOING anything.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

People please don't give up hope.  We have all worked so hard and we are so close.  EA and bioware are just trying to wait us out.  If we stick together and don't use any EA or Bioware products we will win.  Stay With it people.

Please check out this group and join in.

http://social.biowar.../user_group.php

Thank you for your time.

[The Almighty Ali]

whitetailback41 wrote...

I am part of the silent "majority" that EA and various news outlets believe are satisfied with this game. I have not participated in this movement in any way, and I am not even a member of any social media sites. I have, however, been a long term customer of BioWare. I've purchased just about every major release that BioWare has ever produced. I've bought more DLC than I care to admit, and I was subscribed to SWTOR until this fiasco made it apparent that BioWare has totally lost what I once admired about them.

They believed in telling great stories that were heavily influenced by player choice. It is the driving factor behind their success. Until DA2, it was the main factor that differentiated their products from other titles on the market. Now that they are moving away from allowing players to truly influence the outcome of their games, there is little to differentiate BioWare's products from their competitors' offerings. Truthfully speaking, there are better options for RPGs and third-person shooters on the market as far as gameplay is concerned.

Most of the competitors' offerings do not allow the player to meaningfully impact the outcome of the story. BioWare titles used to do exactly that. The inclusion of choice allowed players to become personally invested in the stories and characters that BioWare created, and we loved them for it. Now that BioWare is moving away from player influence on the outcome of the story, I believe it is time for me to move on.

If I wanted to mindlessly blast enemies in a third person shooter with a predetermined ending, I'd be happily playing Gears of War 3, not Mass Effect 3.

I'll buy another BioWare game when EA proves to me that such a thing still exists and not merely in name only.

Hold the line.

Welcome.
It's nice to meet one of the silent majority, don't worry I understand why many remain silent and I don't hold it against them.
That said I do hope you won't shy from mentioning to others who feel the same way as you do, friends, family and whatnot that we're here. We don't expect you or them to be active in the forums, although you are more then welcome to do so if you wish, on facebook or twitter but a simple "like" would support more then one would think.
We're far from a minority but we can always use more that show they support us and what we're trying to do.

This pat on the shoulder from you, it helps us keep it onwards.
And we appriciate it. :happy:

[Emphyr]

Me thinking....

Is it possible that a reader with way to much time on its hands and a pretty good knowledge on how to create a website can make one?
a website wich does post the most important and not to be missed postings that fans have done?

Not only from this topic but from all topics and the reviews on amazon, metacritics etc etc...

A collection of what fans did post.
It will be a HUGE job..

[Salyut]

whitetailback41 wrote...

I am part of the silent "majority" that EA and various news outlets believe are satisfied with this game. I have not participated in this movement in any way, and I am not even a member of any social media sites. I have, however, been a long term customer of BioWare. I've purchased just about every major release that BioWare has ever produced. I've bought more DLC than I care to admit, and I was subscribed to SWTOR until this fiasco made it apparent that BioWare has totally lost what I once admired about them.

They believed in telling great stories that were heavily influenced by player choice. It is the driving factor behind their success. Until DA2, it was the main factor that differentiated their products from other titles on the market. Now that they are moving away from allowing players to truly influence the outcome of their games, there is little to differentiate BioWare's products from their competitors' offerings. Truthfully speaking, there are better options for RPGs and third-person shooters on the market as far as gameplay is concerned.

Most of the competitors' offerings do not allow the player to meaningfully impact the outcome of the story. BioWare titles used to do exactly that. The inclusion of choice allowed players to become personally invested in the stories and characters that BioWare created, and we loved them for it. Now that BioWare is moving away from player influence on the outcome of the story, I believe it is time for me to move on.

If I wanted to mindlessly blast enemies in a third person shooter with a predetermined ending, I'd be happily playing Gears of War 3, not Mass Effect 3.

I'll buy another BioWare game when EA proves to me that such a thing still exists and not merely in name only.

Hold the line.

Thank you for your support. The idea that we're a minority is insulting. Every poll on the net shows that the majority of gamers that finished ME3 disliked the endings.

You're absolutely right about the importance of choice in BioWare games. I believe it to be one of their most important features, because it allows us to really connect with the characters in the game. Without this connection we wouldn't really care about saving the world/galaxy/etc to begin with. BioWare's greatest strenght has always been character writing rather than story writing imo (and the spirits know it's not gameplay).

I hope this fiasco will help BioWare reconnect with their fanbase and make them understand why people are drawn to their games to begin with.

[arg0s5]

whitetailback41 wrote...

I am part of the silent "majority" that EA and various news outlets believe are satisfied with this game. I have not participated in this movement in any way, and I am not even a member of any social media sites. I have, however, been a long term customer of BioWare. I've purchased just about every major release that BioWare has ever produced. I've bought more DLC than I care to admit, and I was subscribed to SWTOR until this fiasco made it apparent that BioWare has totally lost what I once admired about them.

They believed in telling great stories that were heavily influenced by player choice. It is the driving factor behind their success. Until DA2, it was the main factor that differentiated their products from other titles on the market. Now that they are moving away from allowing players to truly influence the outcome of their games, there is little to differentiate BioWare's products from their competitors' offerings. Truthfully speaking, there are better options for RPGs and third-person shooters on the market as far as gameplay is concerned.

Most of the competitors' offerings do not allow the player to meaningfully impact the outcome of the story. BioWare titles used to do exactly that. The inclusion of choice allowed players to become personally invested in the stories and characters that BioWare created, and we loved them for it. Now that BioWare is moving away from player influence on the outcome of the story, I believe it is time for me to move on.

If I wanted to mindlessly blast enemies in a third person shooter with a predetermined ending, I'd be happily playing Gears of War 3, not Mass Effect 3.

I'll buy another BioWare game when EA proves to me that such a thing still exists and not merely in name only.

Hold the line.

I feel the exact same way. Thank you for contributing your story!

[shephard987]

Guys, it has come to my attention that Ken Levine is sad over this
fan outcry that is us.
Here is the link to the article.
After finishing reading that article, I sent Mr. Levine our official mission statement,
our reasons for organizing this movement and also a rational dissection of the endings
which are in question.
Please send letters or messages explaining our rationale behind our reasons,
as Mr. Levine is probably one of the most creative minds of the present day,
and if we show him the reason,
I hope we can alleviate his discontent with the situation.

http://www.theverge....-ken-levine-sad

Thank you.

Hold the Line

[Drasoini]

The less I play of Mass Effect 3, the less I want to return. This particular age of gaming moves rapidly. Much more so then the one I started in (NES era). The desire to return to Mass Effect and by extension, Bioware, rapidly diminishes the more I hear nothing from them. Make a concrete statement. Tell us to go stuff it if that's the plan, or tell us 'Yes, we rushed it, we were trying to make our Q1 goals' or anything besides 'We are listening'. I'm happily putting together a Pathfinder campaign now. Spending hundreds of dollars on books that I had been reserving for Mass Effect DLC and DA3 as well as other games.

Hold the Line folks. This guy is getting close to washing his hands of the situation and becoming a former customer rather than a disgruntled customer.

[Emphyr]

DannieCraft wrote...

This came out today by BBC News, which is great news to us,
and might also further the donations to child's play.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...nology-17444719


Hold the line.

Thank you!
well even the BBC !!! that is a major thing!
its something that cannot be ignored at all by EA/BW

The BBC is always very carefull and does major  background investigation before they publish and broadcast!
This is HUGE!

Modifié par Emphyr, 20 mars 2012 - 07:50 .

[vicsrealms]

Gespenst wrote...

I was sitting here thinking how much I'd like to play some ME3 multiplayer - or start a new character in ME2 to get the last four achievments that I need between ME2 and 3.

And then I remember that I'm mad at Bioware!

And then I thought about the ending again and I just didn't want to anymore.

So I sat back and tried to think of something else to play but what is there...

And then I found a game I picked up for about £3 a few months ago...

Really? Has it really come to this? Do you see what you've driven me to Bioware?!

awwnuts07 wrote...

http://www.fmvmagazine.com/?p=6565

Not sure if this has already been posted. But spread the word. Good PR for the Line

That's nice, good PR I mean. Most of the things I've read about the fans dissatisfied with Mass Effect 3 act like we're a bunch of five year olds throwing a paddy because we just can't appreciate a more "mature" ending. Not realising that just having everything blow up doesn’t make something magically better than just having everything end happily ever after and that we don't dislike it because it's a sad end (although I did want my little blue babies) but because it's bad end - in terms of quality. (And because it throws out the entire story and it's themes leading up to that point etc. etc.)

In fact even with everything that was lost because of the way it was excecuted I didn't even feel sad. I felt exactly nothing.

Hold the line!

Driven to play FF13?!!  Oh, the HORROR!!!

I gave up on Square-Enix after FF12 came out.  I rented FF13 and wish I hadn't.  Which really sucks as I have been playing Final Fantasy since the days of the NES and Final Fantasy I.

I just went back to Borderlands...the ending of the main game is better.  ~grin~