maybe im just crazy but even as dissatisfied as i am at the ending i dont want a refund, even though the end overshadows everything i still cant bring myself to say they didn't deserve my money, it was an experience like no other and i cant get a game like it from anyone else. i dont want to punish those who made 90 percent of the game that way.
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#7427
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:49
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Boceephus wrote...
Whoa... I went out for the night and 40 pages passed me by (serves me right for not manning my computer 24/6).
Any news to catch up on in the last 6 hours?
2 weeks for a (possible) COMMENT on the endings according to Bioware.
#7430
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:50
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DaerogTheDhampir wrote...
Just read
http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/
Old article, but I just ran across this while skimming throught his thread, why isn't this article posted more often? It sums the whole thing up quite well, could replace all the threads with just this article.
I posted that about 100 pages ago, this thread moves like wildfire. :happy:
That article does sum up most of my grievances.
#7431
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:50
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Pandoravv3 wrote...
Boceephus wrote...
Whoa... I went out for the night and 40 pages passed me by (serves me right for not manning my computer 24/6).
Any news to catch up on in the last 6 hours?
2 weeks for a (possible) COMMENT on the endings according to Bioware.
Hey, thanks for the update, very appreciated. Anymore info on this "possible" comment or where it came from?
#7433
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:52
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wheelierdan wrote...
maybe im just crazy but even as dissatisfied as i am at the ending i dont want a refund, even though the end overshadows everything i still cant bring myself to say they didn't deserve my money, it was an experience like no other and i cant get a game like it from anyone else. i dont want to punish those who made 90 percent of the game that way.
same here im holding hope the endings will get over ridden or added dialouge for star child "Go fu** off with your silly logic about the created always turning on there creators" etc and the endings we were promised begins or something
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#7434
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:52
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I just didshephard987 wrote...
http://www.hardcoreg...s-gone-too-far/
Some one, please read this article.
Then comment on it, showing how civil and reasonable we really are.
There is a poster on there giving us a bad name, so please help out in spreading the word of
what our movement is all about.
Cheers.
Hold the Line
#7435
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:53
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Cynical here ...
... offering refund is brilliant!
1) As non-invested players take the money and leave, they no longer qualify to post in these forums.
2) They are less likely to pay further attention to this tragedy.
3) EA/BioWare gains buffer against liability.
... offering refund is brilliant!
1) As non-invested players take the money and leave, they no longer qualify to post in these forums.
2) They are less likely to pay further attention to this tragedy.
3) EA/BioWare gains buffer against liability.
#7436
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:53
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Hello brothers and sisters,
I have a story pretty similar to many of you. Suffice to say, when I reached the ending I felt some sort of emptiness and regret. I texted my gamer friend who beat it the same night that I did and neither of us quite understood what just happened.
Since then, I came online and found a literal war being waged against the ending that I thought was terrible and did the series no justice. Besides the obvious plotholes (I can overlook them because I wasn't a giant lore person), I felt no sense of closure and after the credits rolled I couldn't stop but think, " If I would have gotten only 1000 war assets would this have ended even worse?".
See, I was one of the people who played ME1 and 2 and had a bunch of war assets from that, and completed every mission that I could in ME3. I was paragon and ended up having the ability to basically rally every single ally I thought the game had to offer, and I played MP to get to 100% readiness before I plunged into the final mission. I figured if there was any chance to a happy ending that I would be able to see it.
Well I didn't get any sort of satisfaction out of the ending. Shep dies (maybe???), everyone is stranded, and I don't even understand wtf the Normandy is doing. I'm mostly an indoctrination theory supporter and that means I don't even know if any of that really happened and if the reapers were even defeated. Anyway, I'm glad to have found you guys and am glad there are people fighting for a proper sort of ending that will at least explain what happens with the galaxy.
Long time lurker... first time poster.... Holding the line.
I have a story pretty similar to many of you. Suffice to say, when I reached the ending I felt some sort of emptiness and regret. I texted my gamer friend who beat it the same night that I did and neither of us quite understood what just happened.
Since then, I came online and found a literal war being waged against the ending that I thought was terrible and did the series no justice. Besides the obvious plotholes (I can overlook them because I wasn't a giant lore person), I felt no sense of closure and after the credits rolled I couldn't stop but think, " If I would have gotten only 1000 war assets would this have ended even worse?".
See, I was one of the people who played ME1 and 2 and had a bunch of war assets from that, and completed every mission that I could in ME3. I was paragon and ended up having the ability to basically rally every single ally I thought the game had to offer, and I played MP to get to 100% readiness before I plunged into the final mission. I figured if there was any chance to a happy ending that I would be able to see it.
Well I didn't get any sort of satisfaction out of the ending. Shep dies (maybe???), everyone is stranded, and I don't even understand wtf the Normandy is doing. I'm mostly an indoctrination theory supporter and that means I don't even know if any of that really happened and if the reapers were even defeated. Anyway, I'm glad to have found you guys and am glad there are people fighting for a proper sort of ending that will at least explain what happens with the galaxy.
Long time lurker... first time poster.... Holding the line.
#7437
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:53
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It doesn't seem like much of a surprise if they said they would comment about it at PAX or something. Been expecting that since I saw the movement starting. But I missed a day or 2 here.
#7438
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:54
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Boceephus wrote...
Pandoravv3 wrote...
Boceephus wrote...
Whoa... I went out for the night and 40 pages passed me by (serves me right for not manning my computer 24/6).
Any news to catch up on in the last 6 hours?
2 weeks for a (possible) COMMENT on the endings according to Bioware.
Hey, thanks for the update, very appreciated. Anymore info on this "possible" comment or where it came from?
It was a twitter response to a fan asking when we can expect any news on the ending, and the twitter guy responding at least 2 more weeks till we comment. Can't find the link right now sorry, but you can check twitter, or further back on this page (or the monster thread, forgot which one had the link)
#7439
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:55
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shephard987 wrote...
http://www.hardcoreg...s-gone-too-far/
Some one, please read this article.
Then comment on it, showing how civil and reasonable we really are.
There is a poster on there giving us a bad name, so please help out in spreading the word of
what our movement is all about.
Cheers.
Hold the Line
Just read it and responded something, hope it helps.
As always, be strong, be respectful and Hold the Line!
#7440
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:55
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Statement for the BioWare staffers monitoring this forum thread (I know you're here):
Mass Effect 3 has been advertised as the end of the Mass Effect Trilogy. If the participants on this forum agree with this statement, but also agree that Mass Effect 3, an EA/Bioware game, should not have glaring plot holes and have endings that are varied and take into account the decisions made in the first two installments, then this is a thread that is on topic, has a pertinent issue beng actively discussed, and is in no way breaking forum rules.
Now - with that caveat out of the way - folks, it does not matter what Bioware says at PAX. Every reaction to this issue is information to guide EA in the future, and information is power. No matter if PAX has 10 or 10,000 people show up to ask, it is a statement that is consistent with what we are discussing here, and they want this issue to go away. That is the cheapest solution for them, but not a satisfactory solution for us.
Keep discussing the issues, talk to your friends via social media. If you have friends in countries we have not heard from due to internet restrictions, try to post their feelings here if you can accurately portray them. Have we heard from anyone in Japan who has played the game? It's a big market. Might be good to know what the general reception has been to the game there.
Mass Effect 3 has several issues that need to be addressed. The main focus here has been on EA's PR response to our concerns, whether it's the endings, face import, or other issues. There are other threads for that. But this one is one of the most active. Listen to Mr. Woo's warning. Don't give them an excuse to lock this thread. It's strong and getting stronger. Post an opinion before your ending statement. Think of the others who will need a place to go when they realize what we already have, and they look around for moral support. Holding the line with you for Mass Effect 3, and hopefully a positive relationship with BioWare in future. I think we can agree that's the best solution for all parties, and believe me, that's what EA/Bioware want. But it's a long process and won't happen tonight, tomorrow or the next day. Stay engaged, but come up for air every now and then. Staying the course can be exhausting. Take some time to do other things that are fun, then come back and participate some more. The Mass Effect games were worth our time in the past. ME3 is worth our time now. Night all.
Mass Effect 3 has been advertised as the end of the Mass Effect Trilogy. If the participants on this forum agree with this statement, but also agree that Mass Effect 3, an EA/Bioware game, should not have glaring plot holes and have endings that are varied and take into account the decisions made in the first two installments, then this is a thread that is on topic, has a pertinent issue beng actively discussed, and is in no way breaking forum rules.
Now - with that caveat out of the way - folks, it does not matter what Bioware says at PAX. Every reaction to this issue is information to guide EA in the future, and information is power. No matter if PAX has 10 or 10,000 people show up to ask, it is a statement that is consistent with what we are discussing here, and they want this issue to go away. That is the cheapest solution for them, but not a satisfactory solution for us.
Keep discussing the issues, talk to your friends via social media. If you have friends in countries we have not heard from due to internet restrictions, try to post their feelings here if you can accurately portray them. Have we heard from anyone in Japan who has played the game? It's a big market. Might be good to know what the general reception has been to the game there.
Mass Effect 3 has several issues that need to be addressed. The main focus here has been on EA's PR response to our concerns, whether it's the endings, face import, or other issues. There are other threads for that. But this one is one of the most active. Listen to Mr. Woo's warning. Don't give them an excuse to lock this thread. It's strong and getting stronger. Post an opinion before your ending statement. Think of the others who will need a place to go when they realize what we already have, and they look around for moral support. Holding the line with you for Mass Effect 3, and hopefully a positive relationship with BioWare in future. I think we can agree that's the best solution for all parties, and believe me, that's what EA/Bioware want. But it's a long process and won't happen tonight, tomorrow or the next day. Stay engaged, but come up for air every now and then. Staying the course can be exhausting. Take some time to do other things that are fun, then come back and participate some more. The Mass Effect games were worth our time in the past. ME3 is worth our time now. Night all.
#7442
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:56
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OneWithTheAssassins wrote...
These are fantastic! Thank you!Nadtsat wrote...
Dear all,
The forum banners I've been asked to make on the Keep Calm fashion are ready!
I'm posting them for you here but they are also available here!
Enjoy!
My pleasure!
#7443
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:57
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Killermonkey007 wrote...
Hello brothers and sisters,
I have a story pretty similar to many of you. Suffice to say, when I reached the ending I felt some sort of emptiness and regret. I texted my gamer friend who beat it the same night that I did and neither of us quite understood what just happened.
Since then, I came online and found a literal war being waged against the ending that I thought was terrible and did the series no justice. Besides the obvious plotholes (I can overlook them because I wasn't a giant lore person), I felt no sense of closure and after the credits rolled I couldn't stop but think, " If I would have gotten only 1000 war assets would this have ended even worse?".
See, I was one of the people who played ME1 and 2 and had a bunch of war assets from that, and completed every mission that I could in ME3. I was paragon and ended up having the ability to basically rally every single ally I thought the game had to offer, and I played MP to get to 100% readiness before I plunged into the final mission. I figured if there was any chance to a happy ending that I would be able to see it.
Well I didn't get any sort of satisfaction out of the ending. Shep dies (maybe???), everyone is stranded, and I don't even understand wtf the Normandy is doing. I'm mostly an indoctrination theory supporter and that means I don't even know if any of that really happened and if the reapers were even defeated. Anyway, I'm glad to have found you guys and am glad there are people fighting for a proper sort of ending that will at least explain what happens with the galaxy.
Long time lurker... first time poster.... Holding the line.
Thank you for lending your voice to ours. Welcome to the BSN, and welcome to Retake Mass Effect.
Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line
#7444
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:58
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Pandoravv3 wrote...
Boceephus wrote...
Pandoravv3 wrote...
Boceephus wrote...
Whoa... I went out for the night and 40 pages passed me by (serves me right for not manning my computer 24/6).
Any news to catch up on in the last 6 hours?
2 weeks for a (possible) COMMENT on the endings according to Bioware.
Hey, thanks for the update, very appreciated. Anymore info on this "possible" comment or where it came from?
It was a twitter response to a fan asking when we can expect any news on the ending, and the twitter guy responding at least 2 more weeks till we comment. Can't find the link right now sorry, but you can check twitter, or further back on this page (or the monster thread, forgot which one had the link)
I think he was saying that the 2 weeks we've allowed is insufficient for them to provide us with a definitive comment. They wouldn't commit to saying anything at PAX , this is just more PR double-speak.
Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line
#7445
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:58
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Holy crap, another Jarrett. We are few and far between.
Jarrett Lee wrote...
So formal, just call me Jarrett
#7446
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:59
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Killermonkey007 wrote...
Hello brothers and sisters,
I have a story pretty similar to many of you. Suffice to say, when I reached the ending I felt some sort of emptiness and regret. I texted my gamer friend who beat it the same night that I did and neither of us quite understood what just happened.
Since then, I came online and found a literal war being waged against the ending that I thought was terrible and did the series no justice. Besides the obvious plotholes (I can overlook them because I wasn't a giant lore person), I felt no sense of closure and after the credits rolled I couldn't stop but think, " If I would have gotten only 1000 war assets would this have ended even worse?".
See, I was one of the people who played ME1 and 2 and had a bunch of war assets from that, and completed every mission that I could in ME3. I was paragon and ended up having the ability to basically rally every single ally I thought the game had to offer, and I played MP to get to 100% readiness before I plunged into the final mission. I figured if there was any chance to a happy ending that I would be able to see it.
Well I didn't get any sort of satisfaction out of the ending. Shep dies (maybe???), everyone is stranded, and I don't even understand wtf the Normandy is doing. I'm mostly an indoctrination theory supporter and that means I don't even know if any of that really happened and if the reapers were even defeated. Anyway, I'm glad to have found you guys and am glad there are people fighting for a proper sort of ending that will at least explain what happens with the galaxy.
Long time lurker... first time poster.... Holding the line.
im glad you put that the way you did, you didnt have to be all up in the lore to feel the wrongness of it all. this isnt just a few detail obsessed fans.
Welcome to the line!
#7447
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 03:59
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shephard987 wrote...
http://www.hardcoreg...s-gone-too-far/
Some one, please read this article.
Then comment on it, showing how civil and reasonable we really are.
There is a poster on there giving us a bad name, so please help out in spreading the word of
what our movement is all about.
Cheers.
Hold the Line
I don't find the article that bad, informing there was refund due more to good customers service rather than "because it's ME3" is fair.
Destructing copy of ME3 is not his business but yhea, i don't find it very productive either.
And for the "it has gone too far"... my my... no one can tell how far it will go until we reach the end, too far for "HIM" may be but the guy hardly decide where the line to not cross are. How far it needs to be depend on Bioware mostly, the longer they make it last, the worst it can get for their reputation, sadly.
Bioware is a company that lot of us have grown to love for their awsome games.
Don't get afected personnaly because some people want to stamp you and put you in a box you feel you don't belong, they actualy do it on purpose because it's more easy to generalise from one cliché individual rather than listen to everybody.
Sad thing is, they won't change their mind if they don't want to communicate in first place, they will just deny what you really think or really are.
#7449
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 04:00
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MeldarthX wrote...
Snip
I'm not exactly a young gamer anymore my friend - I take inspiration where I find it. I've found your posts very insightful - helpful......
Some I knew- some I didn't - a TV cartoon I used to love - was so right.........
Knowing is Half the Battle.
If we know what BW/EA is doing; going to do; we can easily counter it - keep the pressure on and win...
I'm proud to say; to each of you......I have your back - and I WILL HOLD THE LINE WITH YOU.
When this is over; meet me in the bar
I'll buy the first round for anyone that can work in a GI Joe quote like that Sir!
/salute
#7450
Posté 21 mars 2012 - 04:00
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cyrrant wrote...
I think he was saying that the 2 weeks we've allowed is insufficient for them to provide us with a definitive comment. They wouldn't commit to saying anything at PAX , this is just more PR double-speak.
Our Choices Should Matter - Hold the Line
Yeah, if you stop and think about it, how many channels it would have to go through, and all the discussion for what they could officially say or do about it all, well, its a long process.
