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[Darkeus]

BostonVamp wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

I am not going to watch because I cannot stand to see disappointment. Either he is going to be totally pissed off or we will be pissed off because he liked it.

Well if he does like it, that's okay. Everyone is entitled to their own tastes...even if it's bad.   (kidding!)

If he likes it, he likes it. Good for him!

True enough.  Though odds are he will not.

[MeldarthX]

http://da.twitch.tv/luzarius

seriously guys/gals come watch this - he's near the ending - live stream with no spoilers - aka he doesn't know man I feel sorry for him.

[MeldarthX]

he's about to watch the ending

[Nicky 192]

ericjdev wrote...

He got past Marauder Shields, all hope is lost.

like finding out Santa clause is'nt real. Poor Guy

[Nadtsat]

Man I feel for that live streaming guy. I hope he freaks out and ***** bricks.

[Wyld Star]

MeldarthX wrote...

he's about to watch the ending

Kinda sad this is more interesting than replaying the game myself..

[Niostang]

All we've really gotten is a nod from BW. It's acknowledgement that there is an issue and that people are thinking/talking about it, but we're still asking the same questions and we're still desperately hoping for substatial answers that will once again elevate Mass Effect's reputation to previous heights. The core issues of this situation have not been adressed.

Keep articulating your expectations. Keep asking your questions. Keep the pressure on.

Think about what you're being told and what you read. Are you still left wondering and wanting, or are you really starting to feel like this might be going somewhere you could happily follow?

Read what you've written before you post it. Take a step back and think to yourself "if someone else had written this, would it have come off as directionless, inflammatory venting, or would it intellgently and articulately add something valuable to the conversation (support for the cause, counterarguments, observations, facts, opinions etc)?"

Be respectful. Be articulate.

We've gotten a nod, but now I'm curious to see what further effects, if any, we can have on this process going on behind the scenes at BW. Endings are important. I think we've proven that beyond a shadow of a doubt. To add to this, this event has become something of a phenomenon. We have industry heavyweights weighing in, non-gaming media following related developments; people are questioning the industry, its processes and mechanics, what video games are, what they are not and what they are worth in a very public manner.

You've made an impact, regardless of the argument you've chosen.

Personally, until we get a concrete statement about what the DLC will actually entail, I'll be sticking to my arguments and keeping my fingers crossed that at least some of my expectations are met and my questions answered. 99% of of RM's statement is still smoke and mirrors - nothing has been set in stone. In fact the only word that he really seems to be standing by is "clarification." But it seems to me that many dissatisfied fans are well beyond this. "Clarification" of a sub-par conclusion? Further justification of the current mediocre A, B, and C options probably isn't going to be enough people accept what you've given them at this point.

To Bioware: I make a plea. Give us what you promised from the ending. Endings have always been important.
To EA: You want to talk bottom line? I'm keeping my money. Give Bioware (hell any of the studios you own) the resources it needs to be as good as it once was and I'll start buying again. Don't p*ss in our ears and tell us it's raining.


Line held.

Modifié par Niostang, 22 mars 2012 - 03:52 .

[jtallen123]

BostonVamp wrote...

I guess what is completely baffling is how can you get it right for 2 games in the series and totally blow it in the 3rd, especially if the team working on the project has been working the entire series since Day 1.

That's a good question.  If I were to hazard a guess based on my interactions with some other long running franchises then I'd say the short answer is time.

There's always deadlines approaching, and EA is one of the worst about pushing stuff out the door before it's done.  The deadline has too much power in the EA world.  

The other possibilities is I've seen that after a while you're doing the same thing for the next game and with each sucess comes greater and greater expectations.  As games in the franchise get pushed out the door you start taking bigger and bigger risks in crazier and crazier directions to try and keep things becoming a bigger and bigger success to hit those ever increasing expectations.  And some times you do something that just doesn't work out like you wanted it to.  

I'm all for a restart of the ME franchise, give the devs a fresh start and something new to work on with a reset in expecations and storyline.  I wouldn't mind them wrapping up Shepards story a bit better first though and it'd be nice to see some sort of bridge DLC between ME story lines.

[BostonVamp]

Thanks, Niostang! Held line noted!

[cyrrant]

Dude on the live stream...

"Yeah guys, what is everyone talking about? Dude, this is amazing so far!"

....

[cutegigi]

Bachuck wrote...-snip-

Ms Merizan,

What I'm about to say I learned through personal work experience.
-snip-

thank you for saying exactly what I want to say regarding this. (but decided not to since I thought it was water under the bridge now)
I agree wholeheartedly.

- hold the line - 

Modifié par cutegigi, 22 mars 2012 - 03:53 .

[Wyld Star]

cyrrant wrote...

Dude on the live stream...

"Yeah guys, what is everyone talking about? Dude, this is amazing so far!"

....

This... is going to end badly.  Heh.

[joshko]

Nadtsat wrote...

MeldarthX wrote...

http://da.twitch.tv/luzarius

seriously guys/gals come watch this - he's near the ending - live stream with no spoilers - aka he doesn't know man I feel sorry for him.

I want his reaction!

That poor guy.
Man talk about flash back.

[ericjdev]

jtallen123 wrote...

BostonVamp wrote...

I guess what is completely baffling is how can you get it right for 2 games in the series and totally blow it in the 3rd, especially if the team working on the project has been working the entire series since Day 1.

That's a good question.  If I were to hazard a guess based on my interactions with some other long running franchises then I'd say the short answer is time.

There's always deadlines approaching, and EA is one of the worst about pushing stuff out the door before it's done.  The deadline has too much power in the EA world.  

The other possibilities is I've seen that after a while you're doing the same thing for the next game and with each sucess comes greater and greater expectations.  As games in the franchise get pushed out the door you start taking bigger and bigger risks in crazier and crazier directions to try and keep things becoming a bigger and bigger success to hit those ever increasing expectations.  And some times you do something that just doesn't work out like you wanted it to.  

I'm all for a restart of the ME franchise, give the devs a fresh start and something new to work on with a reset in expecations and storyline.  I wouldn't mind them wrapping up Shepards story a bit better first though and it'd be nice to see some sort of bridge DLC between ME story lines.

I have no idea what it looks like insider Bioware but I also have felt that deadlines must have played into this. I also wonder what their peer review process is like, it's easy for me to picture one guy falling in love with his own bad idea, it's harder for me to picture a group of people signing off on it. Mind you I'm not thinking about anyone in particular when I say that.

Modifié par ericjdev, 22 mars 2012 - 03:52 .

[Felene]

 Please add this to the Satire and Parody list.

[Nadtsat]

cyrrant wrote...

Dude on the live stream...

"Yeah guys, what is everyone talking about? Dude, this is amazing so far!"

....

HAHAHAHAHA
I lolled so hard it was rather ROFLFMAO

[mrderp27]

MeldarthX wrote...

http://da.twitch.tv/luzarius doing a live play through the ending - he doesn't know it live stream

he just commented after the crucible went into the citadel that he doesn't know what people are talking about and how awesome the ending is. poor guy, doesn't know what's ahead..

[taelus.calimshan]

@OP: Some of the stuff you're showing support for is kind of inflammatory. For instance, pointing out the post by mattynuts and saying it deserves special attention is a little harsh if not outright rude. The best thing for us to do is assume the positive in these things. If we assume the negative and they perform well, the best we end up saying is "well, that's what they should have done" and if they do a bad job we say "see, we knew it all along". There's no winning that scenario. If we assume the positive, that they're on our side, then if they fall short we end up with "well that sucks, I had faith in you" and that sucks, but not any worse than the previous options. If we're right, we feel like people we trust did right by us and that's a really solid win.

Point being, if you want to talk about this being PR, that's your right. All I would ask is that you please do your best to show respect to the folks at BioWare who might very well be working hard right this moment to make you happier.

[UKillMeLongTime]

hope he does not do what i did and walk straight lol

[joshko]

sigh

Here we go, poor guy

[Luiginius]

oh boy

[ericjdev]

When I first finished it I decided on red but my gun glitched and wouldn't fire, I had to go through the whole ending twice.

[Niostang]

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