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EA/Bioware in Full PR Damage Control Mode *UPDATED 3/22/12, 5:28 PM UTC/GMT -4 hours*


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superduperkoala

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blurryhunter wrote...

I can understand how some people didn't see them coming from that angle. On my end, about the only part that took me aback from it was hair. Can't say I saw that coming...


To me Tali will always look like this:

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I just wish there was bit more glowiness in the eyes...

Or do her headlights only come on when she puts the mask on? :devil:

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That Tali's face is a great piece of fan art.

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To each their own, of course, but I never looked into any fan art about the situation. I've never been one to get into fan art/story, deciding to, instead, deferr to the creator's direction on it. Good picture, of course. That would have been fine by me, really.

I'm just saddened knowing how little attention it got considering how important the character has been to the series, not to mention fan speculation.

Quick Edit:  superduperkoala, your signature is pretty much the sort of citing I mention when talking to people about why anyone, least of all us, would be upset over the outcome of the game.

Modifié par blurryhunter, 22 mars 2012 - 10:13 .


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Nothing has changed since Myzukas statement because he said nothing. I really hope it's PRs work because otherwise it will mean that Myzuka treats us as if we where a bunch of retards (Also he keeps calling us "Some core fans". I wonder if he has internet or visits this forum from time to time...).

If we have to hold untill April then we will and if nothing changes then we won't stop our complains.

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Tregon wrote...
I just wish there was bit more glowiness in the eyes...
Or do her headlights only come on when she puts the mask on? :devil:


I think the glowing eyes is just a convenient to humanize someone behind a mask. Or else I would be scared to walk around Rannoch at night. :whistle:

Modifié par superduperkoala, 22 mars 2012 - 10:20 .


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Nightshift Texas dropping in - been busy I see. I don't have anything really to add I haven't said already. Holding the line until we get a non-vague, non-defensive response that actually gives us some information about what they are going to do for the Endings.

And a very good article about the creepy relationship between the "pro" game review sites and game developers - once again, Forbes has been amazing on this. http://www.forbes.co...egative-review/

Much of what we've already been saying, but written even better then this crew. So proud of you guys! Almost everyone is holding together, staying polite, staying on-target.

FOR SHEPARD!

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Speaking of Tali, I can't get her last words out of my brain when I think of Mass Effect 3. "I want more time."

It's practically haunting, actually. Come to think of it, a lot of character lines from Mass Effect 3 happen to almost...predict...what we're going through now. Downright creepy in some way. Completely off the wall, but you think the writers were warning us? Haha...

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superduperkoala wrote...

I think the glowing eyes is just a convenient to humanize someone behind a mask. Or else I would be scared to walk around Rannoch at night. :whistle:


Think of it this way... At night, on planet where everyone else has their ocular parts glow... One without glowiness is the most stealthy one!

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Sorry never mind <.<; too many tabs open and posted in wrong one :P
this is not the post you're looking for *sneaks away*

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blurryhunter wrote...
superduperkoala, your signature is pretty much the sort of citing I
mention when talking to people about why anyone, least of all us, would
be upset over the outcome of the game.


I don't even mind if the game is rush out because of some deadline EA set for BioWare. What hurt me the most is the developer lie to me about the game. That's just not a very smart way to treat a fan who praise BioWare for the last 10 years.

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blurryhunter wrote...

Speaking of Tali, I can't get her last words out of my brain when I think of Mass Effect 3. "I want more time."

It's practically haunting, actually. Come to think of it, a lot of character lines from Mass Effect 3 happen to almost...predict...what we're going through now. Downright creepy in some way. Completely off the wall, but you think the writers were warning us? Haha...


Painful to see great characters going to waste.

In many ways Tali reflected our own naivete and innocence throughout the Mass Effect games. A girl coming of age amidst war heroes, mercenaries, police, career soldiers, assassins, engineered super-women

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blurryhunter wrote...

Speaking of Tali, I can't get her last words out of my brain when I think of Mass Effect 3. "I want more time."

It's practically haunting, actually. Come to think of it, a lot of character lines from Mass Effect 3 happen to almost...predict...what we're going through now. Downright creepy in some way. Completely off the wall, but you think the writers were warning us? Haha...


For me it was her dramatically jumping to her doom while I watched my strikingly hansome male Shepard slow-motion run; Baywatch style. Damn I made Shepard look good. It just didn't feel right to paragon interrupt such a majestic moment.

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Tregon wrote...

superduperkoala wrote...

I think the glowing eyes is just a convenient to humanize someone behind a mask. Or else I would be scared to walk around Rannoch at night. :whistle:


Think of it this way... At night, on planet where everyone else has their ocular parts glow... One without glowiness is the most stealthy one!


Obviously you haven't seen the movie - "The Grey"

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I love how we simultaneously get an article from IGN that basically accuses us of being in-league with the devil, and a article from Forbes pointing out the incredible corrupt relationship between major game review sites and game developers.

http://www.forbes.co...egative-review/

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Mavaras wrote...

blurryhunter wrote...

Speaking of Tali, I can't get her last words out of my brain when I think of Mass Effect 3. "I want more time."

It's practically haunting, actually. Come to think of it, a lot of character lines from Mass Effect 3 happen to almost...predict...what we're going through now. Downright creepy in some way. Completely off the wall, but you think the writers were warning us? Haha...


For me it was her dramatically jumping to her doom while I watched my strikingly hansome male Shepard slow-motion run; Baywatch style. Damn I made Shepard look good. It just didn't feel right to paragon interrupt such a majestic moment.

Wait, you can paragon interrupt Tali from jumping? Not that I would ever choose anything but Geth/Quarian peace.
What happens?

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[quote]superduperkoala wrote...

Think of it this way... At night, on planet where everyone else has their ocular parts glow... One without glowiness is the most stealthy one!

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Obviously you haven't seen the movie - "The Grey"

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Well, not all glowing eyes mean they have night vision and all that. But no, haven't seen it.

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Some of the posts in this thread jiust seem fearmongering. At first it was a fresh perspective...now, I think I'll avoid it.

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OneWithTheAssassins wrote...
Wait, you can paragon interrupt Tali from jumping? Not that I would ever choose anything but Geth/Quarian peace.
What happens?


Well, it's not really an interruption. Shepard will jump to the edge of the cliff to try to save Tali, she will still fall to her death. That's why I am complete bias during the Quarian/Geth missions.

Damn, that's some good writing, why the ending can't be like that.:(

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OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Mavaras wrote...

blurryhunter wrote...

Speaking of Tali, I can't get her last words out of my brain when I think of Mass Effect 3. "I want more time."

It's practically haunting, actually. Come to think of it, a lot of character lines from Mass Effect 3 happen to almost...predict...what we're going through now. Downright creepy in some way. Completely off the wall, but you think the writers were warning us? Haha...


For me it was her dramatically jumping to her doom while I watched my strikingly hansome male Shepard slow-motion run; Baywatch style. Damn I made Shepard look good. It just didn't feel right to paragon interrupt such a majestic moment.

Wait, you can paragon interrupt Tali from jumping? Not that I would ever choose anything but Geth/Quarian peace.
What happens?


You miss. It's actually more sad, because for that brief instance you care about the only Quarian not decending in a flaming wreck (watched this on YouTube, for I refused to choose anything but peace for both), and you don't succeed.

EDIT: On a side note, I was so not happy with the YouTube version of it that I played the Quarian/Geth peace moment twice on said Tube of U so I could remove the imagine and music. Same went for watching the Quarian only choice... Had to repeat my peace-on-both-sides video four times that day.

Modifié par blurryhunter, 22 mars 2012 - 10:37 .


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Jessica Merizan wrote...

OK a few things.

I've calmed down, eaten a significant amount of candy, and talked with people about puppies and dinosaurs.

I also apologized to Mattynutz for calling him out on this thread for behavior even if I don't agree with it. Regardless of how I feel, I'm still advocating for Matty and everyone else, and I don't want anyone to think otherwise. I forgot that many of you don't see me as a friendly galpal community manager and are automatically distrustful.

The reason I came BACK is to tell you that my interaction with you guys has derailed this thread and I'd like for you guys to get back to the subject at hand. Please don't quote or discuss this, as it will just further keep things off track.

Also live commenting on some random person's livestream about their ending is also not on topic.

I will continue to engage with positive people (you can still hate the endings or be part of Retake and be constructive) because it's not fair to shut myself off just because of a small proportion of people who don't like what I'm doing.

Now, IGNORE ME (woo Venture Brother's reference - yup 9% strong here!)


Jessica, I'm sorry we are stressing you out, you seem like a kind and intelligent person. That being said, we are angry, and if we accidently direct our anger at you; we are sorry. Really our anger is directed towards Bioware and maybe moreso EA. For rushing this game out before a proper ending was finished. It's Dragon Age 2 all over against, except not as bad. Additionally, if you followed Bioware news prior to the release, which many of us diehard fans did, we were straight up lied to. This was done to milk us for money, ala day one dlc. Don't get me wrong I love and support this franchise and am willing to put forth a lot of money to buy DLC for it if the endings are fixed. That being said you don't just start with day 1 DLC, you don't make us pay for proper endings through DLC. Doing so would set a dangerous precedent for Video game publishers and developers to milk us for cash like we are cows. This is why we are angry, didn't anyone at Bioware play the game before release and go "WTF is with this nonsensical ending?" Or did EA stop by and lay on pressure(IE threaten to fire people) to create an ending for expansion opportunities, or to get the game out by March?

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Diablos2525 wrote...
Jessica, I'm sorry we are stressing you out, you seem like a kind and intelligent person. That being said, we are angry, and if we accidently direct our anger at you; we are sorry. Really our anger is directed towards Bioware and maybe moreso EA. For rushing this game out before a proper ending was finished. It's Dragon Age 2 all over against, except not as bad. Additionally, if you followed Bioware news prior to the release, which many of us diehard fans did, we were straight up lied to. This was done to milk us for money, ala day one dlc. Don't get me wrong I love and support this franchise and am willing to put forth a lot of money to buy DLC for it if the endings are fixed. That being said you don't just start with day 1 DLC, you don't make us pay for proper endings through DLC. Doing so would set a dangerous precedent for Video game publishers and developers to milk us for cash like we are cows. This is why we are angry, didn't anyone at Bioware play the game before release and go "WTF is with this nonsensical ending?" Or did EA stop by and lay on pressure(IE threaten to fire people) to create an ending for expansion opportunities, or to get the game out by March?


To be fair, companies like EA manage to milk us all is because we let them. Since EA is a public company, they managment will only care for one thing and one thing only - profit, since they have to answer to the share holders. If we continue to let them milk  us by buy day one DLC, then it will just prove to EA that this is a profitable strategy. Customer like us really have to speak with our wallets.

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superduperkoala wrote...

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...
Wait, you can paragon interrupt Tali from jumping? Not that I would ever choose anything but Geth/Quarian peace.
What happens?


Well, it's not really an interruption. Shepard will jump to the edge of the cliff to try to save Tali, she will still fall to her death. That's why I am complete bias during the Quarian/Geth missions.

Damn, that's some good writing, why the ending can't be like that.:(


I think the saddest was killing wrex after my betrayal. Damn, my Mass Effect was a tale of sorrow now that I think of it.

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Mavaras wrote...

I think the saddest was killing wrex after my betrayal. Damn, my Mass Effect was a tale of sorrow now that I think of it.


Does that mean you killed Mordin as well!?! You heartless bastard! :crying:

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Its nice to talk about other things at times, but for the sake of not haveing this awesome thread locked, lets try to stay on topic now. We can discuss these things in other places.

Modifié par OneWithTheAssassins, 22 mars 2012 - 11:00 .