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[Namz89]

Mavaras wrote...
I think the saddest was killing wrex after my betrayal. Damn, my Mass Effect was a tale of sorrow now that I think of it.

Mhmm...not really... until Thane, Mordin and Legion went down everything was unicorns and rainbows (with my paragon shep). But it depends really all on your choices, really. Choices - what the game was all about. WAS. <_<

[Stroke1986]

Im lurking here for like 3 days and listening what you guys and girls posting. I realy never posted on BW forum maybe two or thre times long ago. But i just wished to join you in this matter.

When i first played ME3 and chosed sythesis ending i was like well sad becouse Shepard died but i was like "hey we saved the galaxy thats worth dying for" but then i readed abaut the "different" endings not to mention the giant plot holes and Joker's running away with sqad mates teleported on the Normandy.

And btw. the game has a lots of new character models and monsters why they cant made a Quarian face in 3d render? I mean i was happy seeing Tali on a picture but i was a bit dissapointed.

All in all i cant add to much right now to the thread just wanted you guys to know one more player came out of lurking and joined to the "Minoriti of the fans".

Holding the line from Hungary!

[Lil One]

Welcome, Stroke, here's an emergency induction port in case you need it.


Still holding the line, still hoping.  May they see the light, and not just three coloured ones. <_<

Modifié par Lil One, 22 mars 2012 - 11:07 .

[blurryhunter]

Stroke1986 wrote...

Im lurking here for like 3 days and listening what you guys and girls posting. I realy never posted on BW forum maybe two or thre times long ago. But i just wished to join you in this matter.

When i first played ME3 and chosed sythesis ending i was like well sad becouse Shepard died but i was like "hey we saved the galaxy thats worth dying for" but then i readed abaut the "different" endings not to mention the giant plot holes and Joker's running away with sqad mates teleported on the Normandy.

And btw. the game has a lots of new character models and monsters why they cant made a Quarian face in 3d render? I mean i was happy seeing Tali on a picture but i was a bit dissapointed.

All in all i cant add to much right now to the thread just wanted you guys to know one more player came out of lurking and joined to the "Minoriti of the fans".

Holding the line from Hungary!

Yeah, the ending bit pretty much had me calling bluff the moment the Mass Relays went up; the third time (after seeing the other endings weren't different).

I even went into the Codex and, plain as day, right there in the Reaper section, was a mention about how the destruction of Mass Relays were considered too costly a tactic to take against the Reapers because they 'wipe out all life in the system the relay is located in.'

I'm sorry, but I can't begin to wonder what was going through their heads when they came to that decision. Not to mention that before ME3 the last thing they made for the series was the Arrival DLC which explained that very concept!

You don't ask your viewer/reader/player to 'fill in the blanks' (enormous ones) by themselves just for the sake of 'being open ended' or 'wanting to have it discussed' (basically a social experiment) and sit there with a straight face and tell me you're surprised and didn't see any complaints coming.

Someone made a great comment and I can't remember where I saw it, but it's like they never played their own game.

[Namz89]

By the way...does anyone of you think that there still might be the possibility, that BW planned that all along? They planned something like the "Indoctrination Theory" as a PR action - so they can come out after some weeks with the "real" ending, saying - "Ah! Those of you who believed in the "fake" endings have been tricked - "indoctrinated" by us, the rEApers."?
After all interacting with players to that extend would be...totally new and impressive.

They just didn't count on the fans to be that passionate?

[Tregon]

No.

They simply can't be so stupid that they would assume that all the anger and resentment would vanish as if it had not been there at all.

And they had to realize their ending was utter BS. If they had planned to reveal something major they would have done by now in order to minimize the damage.


No, BW is totally lost right now, trying to figure out how to avoid becoming sinking ship in Westwood style.

[Pee Jae]

Holding the line, the retake movement, etc, etc... doesn't necessarily mean being a total ****. Nor does it mean we're condemning Bioware (at least I'm not.) I love the game, I think that the entire team did an excellent job on it. From the lowliest gopher to Jennifer Hale. I applaud you a thousand times over.

I'm not even in the camp who thinks you should change the endings. Keep'em! Just give me more. I'm willing to pay for them. Also, thank you for listening to us.

[Arkafazin]

Phoenix NL wrote...

The closest analogy I can think of is If ME3 was a slice of stuffcrust pizza and it was some of the best pizza you ever had then you bite into the stuffcrust and instead of what you expected you find it's filled with anchovies. But hey you loved the main part of the slice right? How would you rate it?

It's hilarious that you use that example....  I work at a pizza place and as a practical joke, one of my coworkers made a stuffed crust pizza and put anchovies in it.  I took a bite and immediately gagged!  I laugh about it now though XD

[superduperkoala]

OneWithTheAssassins wrote...

Its nice to talk about other things at times, but for the sake of not haveing this awesome thread locked, lets try to stay on topic now. We can discuss these things in other places.

Oops, sorry I got distracted by all your civilized and interested comments about the game. Just want to say thank you for the refreshing atmosphere. Frankly, the forum turn a bit ugly in the last 24 hours.

Back to my original question, does anyone have any insight regarding the sales of Mass Effect 3? All the refund talk and price cut actually come as a surprise to me. More importantly, in Dr. Muzyka's blog he mention that we should "play the game, finish it and tell us what you think. Tell your friends if you feel it’s a good game as a whole". It seems like a cry for help to me and I wonder if they are really in trouble right now. It's not usual for a AAA game to cut 20 dollars within 2 weeks of its launch.

Modifié par superduperkoala, 22 mars 2012 - 11:18 .

[Lil One]

t_skwerl wrote...

Holding the line, the retake movement, etc, etc... doesn't necessarily mean being a total ****. Nor does it mean we're condemning Bioware (at least I'm not.) I love the game, I think that the entire team did an excellent job on it. From the lowliest gopher to Jennifer Hale. I applaud you a thousand times over.

I'm not even in the camp who thinks you should change the endings. Keep'em! Just give me more. I'm willing to pay for them. Also, thank you for listening to us.

/signed


You can have an EIP too.

[Tregon]

Well, bad news travel fast. If UK sales went down 70% like some links in forum suggested, I would guess elsewhere the trend is the same.

And retails are realizing they are running risk of ending up with pile of toxic goods to weight down their accounts so they cut the profit and try to get rid of it as fast as possible.

Bad time to bunker down and try to ride out the storm by shutting ones ears. At this rate BW has damaged it's sales so badly, that they cannot recover them.

[Pee Jae]

Lil One wrote...

t_skwerl wrote...

Holding the line, the retake movement, etc, etc... doesn't necessarily mean being a total ****. Nor does it mean we're condemning Bioware (at least I'm not.) I love the game, I think that the entire team did an excellent job on it. From the lowliest gopher to Jennifer Hale. I applaud you a thousand times over.

I'm not even in the camp who thinks you should change the endings. Keep'em! Just give me more. I'm willing to pay for them. Also, thank you for listening to us.

/signed


You can have an EIP too.

Emairgency eenduckshun porrt.

[Mavaras]

Tregon wrote...

Well, bad news travel fast. If UK sales went down 70% like some links in forum suggested, I would guess elsewhere the trend is the same.

And retails are realizing they are running risk of ending up with pile of toxic goods to weight down their accounts so they cut the profit and try to get rid of it as fast as possible.

Bad time to bunker down and try to ride out the storm by shutting ones ears. At this rate BW has damaged it's sales so badly, that they cannot recover them.

You'd think at the very least it is really screwing up their profit projections. They must have had a more agreeable projection going into things.

[Fulgrim88]

t_skwerl wrote...
Emairgency eenduckshun porrt.

Damn right. Totally NOT a straw^_^

[blurryhunter]

Namz89 wrote...

By the way...does anyone of you think that there still might be the possibility, that BW planned that all along? They planned something like the "Indoctrination Theory" as a PR action - so they can come out after some weeks with the "real" ending, saying - "Ah! Those of you who believed in the "fake" endings have been tricked - "indoctrinated" by us, the rEApers."?
After all interacting with players to that extend would be...totally new and impressive.

They just didn't count on the fans to be that passionate?

I'm going to say something I've been saying since before I saw anyone else say it. The Indoctrination Theory, as nice of an idea as it could be (saying that it was planned), is, at this point, nothing but a scapegoat for BioWare now. For every piece of evidence called up to support it, BioWare has just that much more to apply to an escape route. Here's my reason.

If BioWare planned it, they'll release the 'real ending', and everyone will, some grudginly, praise them for such a unique, albeit risky, attempt.

If BioWare didn't plan it, they release the 'real ending' as if it was their idea, and, again, garner praise for such a unique, risky attempt, having never originally planned it, and come away with the populace none the wiser.

If BioWare made a mistake, I would like to see them actually own up to it. The problem is that unless they say something to that effect, we'll never know for sure and you can conspiracy theory the subject into the dirt for all time.

Side Note: 
Glenn Greenwald has described these insider journalists as “desperate worshipers of political power who are far more eager to be part of it and to serve it than to act as adversarial checks against it” who are “Royal Court Spokespeople regardless of which monarch is ruling.”  Direct quote (sorry for the funny text size) from an article referring to this: http://www.forbes.co...egative-review/ 

Bolded the point that I believe applies here. While I'm not going to say people become desperate worshipers of anything, I will say that too many do not stand up for things they believe in, or choose not to believe in things that should be addressed. This applies to the situation we find ourselves in now, this 'battle' between what was spoken to us through interviews and discussions, and the product whose conclusion did not mirror those spoken words. We are, as far as many sites are concerned, the only consumers to have acted as these checks against something we perceive as geniunely wrong. We're not the only ones in gaming's history, but we are the only ones on center stage now. Remember that.

Speak your reasons, cite your sources, stick to your civility, and your stand by your fellows. Look to the people you stand with you, know you're not in this alone, and know that we, or at the very least I, take the doubts, reaffirm my stance, steel my resolve, and stand by this cause.

You are the vocal majority. We wouldn't have these sites bringing this issue up, backing us or otherwise, if we weren't.

[Aznable Char]

I wonder if a free week pass of Star Wars the Old Republic is another one of BioWare's tactics now that people are canceling their subs because of ME3 ? More distractions that we were warned about ?

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

Guys do any of us just want extended versions of the endings we have now? If you don't then I say the best thing we can do is not buy them if that is what Bioware releases. i think that will send a clear message and if a couple weeks after the release sales have not picked up Bioware will have to cave and start working on new endings that give us options that reflect the choices we made in the games. Please hold the line for as long as it takes people.

Please check out this group and join in.

http://social.bioware.com/group/7102/

Thank you for your time.

[HeavenStar]

My friends and I are long time fans of Mass Effect series. Throughout the years we are loyal to Mass Effect series so much that even though we live in a country where buying pirated games or downloading the game is so much more convenient to us, we still decide to buy the game even though it cost up to 10% of our monthly salary. And not just for ME series, but for all games that has Bioware stamp on them, going way back to Baldur's Gate series. After experiencing Mass Effect 3 endings however, we felt something akin to losing a life long friend.

Why? This is not only because the ending doesn't give us satisfactory closure to the series and left so many questions unanswered, but because what was promised us (the endings that aren't choice A, B, C) weren't being delivered. And after so much time and money invested, we felt cheated, so much so that we couldn't even finish a second play through of the games, even with all the good things the game has.

But we still hold out hope that Bioware will hear of our plight and offer us additional endings that offer more closure and answer most of the questions in ME series, especially on the relationship and romance of commander Shepard (we're girl gamers who find the in game romance the main reason we're addicted to the series).

[blurryhunter]

Not sure if I can post under my own post (typically seen as taboo in the forum world), but I feel it needed it's own spot considering it's different from what I just said.

I believe there is the possibility that BioWare has had some ace up their sleeve the whole time. It's possible simply because it hasn't been completely ruled out unless you count some very vague statements. Even more so considering I saw vague statements keeping me with the belief that they could have that ace.

However, even if BioWare does, we must act on what we know, not what we think, hope, or surmise we know. Right now we know that the endings we got were nothing close to what they constantly talked about giving us, having never once returned to tell us anything changed (which, keep in mind, is, I believe, fully within their right to do so prior to a product's release). We have every right to speak up like this, just as they have every right to turn around and say 'Ha! Check this out!' and show us they really did have something planned.

Modifié par blurryhunter, 22 mars 2012 - 11:38 .

[superduperkoala]

blurryhunter wrote...

Not sure if I can post under my own post (typically seen as taboo in the forum world), but I feel it needed it's own spot considering it's different from what I just said.

I believe there is the possibility that BioWare has had some ace up their sleeve the whole time. It's possible simply because it hasn't been completely ruled out unless you count some very vague statements. Even more so considering I saw vague statements keeping me with the belief that they could have that ace.

However, even if BioWare does, we must act on what we know, not what we think, hope, or surmise we know. Right now we know that the endings we got were nothing close to what they constantly talked about giving us, having never once returned to tell us anything changed (which, keep in mind, is, I believe, fully within their right to do so prior to a product's release). We have every right to speak up like this, just as they have every right to turn around and say 'Ha! Check this out!' and show us they really did have something planned.

If they really have an ace under their sleeve, why they would hold it back considering the sales is dropping like crazy?? A week ago, I was hopping they were working hard to release an actual ending before the game was rush out because of the deadline, but judeging from today's news, I don't think that's the case.

[Tregon]

superduperkoala wrote...

If they really have an ace under their sleeve, why they would hold it back considering the sales is dropping like crazy?? A week ago, I was hopping they were working hard to release an actual ending before the game was rush out because of the deadline, but judeging from today's news, I don't think that's the case.

Yeah. Pulling out the parachute when first trees tickle your feet is not going to do you any good. 

[Lil One]

Personally, I am in the camp "keep the endings, some are happy with them, good for them, but add alternate ones that supersede the first one, via DLC".  As for details, well, there everyone has a different idea, I suppose.  On a large scale, from "happy" (to the extent that is possible) to failure (Reapers win, aaah!), I say.

Well, that's my two straws EIPs any way.

Modifié par Lil One, 22 mars 2012 - 11:50 .

[Remtastic]

Hey everyone, I've been lurking in this thread for a couple of days now and I just wanted to say how inspired and proud I am of mass effect fans everywhere and the gaming community in general. In spite of the fact that there are people attacking our right to express our own opinions, labelling us as whiny and selfish, people are banding together and really making a stand. Even if we don't get everything (or anything) that we're asking for I really believe we're making a difference. Just look at gamers contribution to childs play, in as little as ten days we've raised over 78,000 dollars. That in itself is amazing.
Keep holding the line guys

[SirKillsalot]

Just finished the game for the second time.

It makes even less sense now.


Will continue to hold the line.

[Aurica]

edit double post...

Modifié par Aurica, 22 mars 2012 - 12:02 .