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[CRISIS1717]

Well it's not like they can throw us another copy of ME2 again after the DA2 debacle to appease everyone lol...

[albodibran]

if everyone on SWTOR who didnt like the ending of ME3 canceled subscriptions in one fell swoop, holding that line, then it would drive a sword in ea/biowares back. if they want any redemption with their fanbase, fix the damn ending. even if its just a text mock up like in DAO. it should not cost that much. lazy writers

[Bachuck]

leapingmonkeys wrote...

Exacly!

Look at the thread that Bioware started that states "We are listening...".

It starts by saying that they are listening to what people have to say.  No statement as to whether they actually intend to do anything, but they will listen.

Then it states "Now lets give thanks to Shepard.  What was your favorite Shepard moment?"

Give me a break.  The whole "give thanks" to a fictional character is frankly insulting.  On top of it, this is a clear attempt to deflect the thread into something that is praising the game, instead of the thread's stated purpose of being a place to provide feedback to Bioware on its failure to address the wants of the customer base.

And what's worse is that a number of people got suckered by it.  They actually started posting about things they liked about Shepard.

I posted my disgust in that thread. It was sickening to see people get so duped by the "give thanks to a fictional character" nonsense. 

[ssyyllaarr]

Alsuras wrote...

I've no intention of loading up Mass Effect 3 on my PC until this fiasco gets sorted out, don't fall into this little trap, the best thing that could happen for us is for this challenge to not be passed. Show them that people are genuine in their feelings about the ending and desire to see it changed.

this^^^^ 

[augustburnt]

 They can do what they like, until they prove they can fix the ending I see no point in buying Bioware games ever again, not unless they show that they give a **** about the consumers and have magicly relearned how to write a story.

[Harbinger of Hope]

L33tBadMofo wrote...

I will play the multiplayer event, mainly because that's all there is left to do with this game.

Then you are weak willed and Shepard would be disappoint. Well, the Shepard from ME1, 2, and 3 until the star child. You know, where he submitted like a female dog in heat.

[VAIOMANIAC]

Bachuck wrote...

leapingmonkeys wrote...

Exacly!

Look at the thread that Bioware started that states "We are listening...".

It starts by saying that they are listening to what people have to say.  No statement as to whether they actually intend to do anything, but they will listen.

Then it states "Now lets give thanks to Shepard.  What was your favorite Shepard moment?"

Give me a break.  The whole "give thanks" to a fictional character is frankly insulting.  On top of it, this is a clear attempt to deflect the thread into something that is praising the game, instead of the thread's stated purpose of being a place to provide feedback to Bioware on its failure to address the wants of the customer base.

And what's worse is that a number of people got suckered by it.  They actually started posting about things they liked about Shepard.

I posted my disgust in that thread. It was sickening to see people get so duped by the "give thanks to a fictional character" nonsense. 

I was a little nicer and did share some good moments funny thing is that it shows the desperation of the mods to control the forums, not working since we have our own pr people warning us against this tactics.

See this thread for what sleezy pr tactics we need to be aware off read that post it´s really interesting.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10084349/1#10084349

Modifié par VAIOMANIAC, 16 mars 2012 - 11:31 .

[Jack_Forest]

I'm sure there is stuff to do on weekends apart from some PR damage control MP event. Go for a walk, read a book, play a game from their competitors and talk about how great it was...

[Piarath]

Bump so other people can see. Seriously, he's got them pegged to a Tee.

Hold the line. If you do, you WILL get something better.

[meisjoe]

If there is one thing I like less that being misled - (that my choices would actually matter) - it's being handled like some some fringe lunatic, throwing a tantrum. I'm very close to being done with BioWare altogether... whether they release a "fix" to the ending, or not.

[leapingmonkeys]

BlaiidDrwg wrote...

I have commented on the boards a few times as someone totally unimpressed with the endings. But the OP is completely correct. I have also worked PR before. What the OP said holds true for politics, corporations, and any other group where public opinion matters. And I am reminded of something I believe in but forget often... we are not hurt by what others do but by our reaction to them. Honestly, the ending should only have bothered anyone for the five minutes it ran. Any more negativity since then is our own doing. If Bioware or anyone else dissappoint you so much that you lose control of your own emotions... then you simply cut them off. I'm going to take my own advice. Ciao.

I have to say that I disagree with this position.  The issue here is really not so much the end as the expectations that had been established by Bioware for ME3 and the fact that the game did not even come close to meeting them.  That was deceitful on the part of Bioware and that is the real cause of the uproar.

If Bioware had marketed ME3 as "The final stage of the ME series in which all your prior actions come to nothing and the universe is for the most part destroyed by forces beyond your control.  Enjoy a tearful good bye to your universe, your team and your LI as you see the world burn" then no one would have a right to complain about the game.  And, in fact, there would have been no uproar because people's expectations would have been met.

As it is, the marketing for ME3 coupled with the known aspects of ME1 and ME2, gave a distinct impression of what would be in the game that was incorrect.  There was no resolution to most of the questions.  One's past actions had no real impact on the game play, and only an indirect and mostly invisible impact on what the final cut-scenes would look like.  There was no final climactic battle.  No final foe to overcome.  No victorious ending.  These were all aspects that could reasonably be expected from ME3 given ME1/ME2 and the manner in which ME3 was marketed.  Bioware knew this as well as their marketing efforts clearly played into these themes (and after 5 years of feedback from the customers on the ME series, they knew full well what made the games popular).

So the outrage is that Bioware deliberately delivered a product under false pretences.  That is something be fight against, because if we don't, we will be taken like this over and over again.

[RiGoRmOrTiS_UK]

Hold the line people! Don't let their PR team wear us down with carefully placed condescending media stories and a "we are listening but lets talk about the good bits" thread.

They are just trying to wear down the people who don't like the ending; or turn them rabid (to make them seem irrational)..

Hold..the...line!

[VerdantSF]

Jack_Forest wrote...

read a book

Yup, that's what I've been doing.  It's been nice, being immersed in sci-fi stories that stay true to their initial themes throughout THE ENTIRE SERIES.

[Wowlock]

I don't think any sane person would accept to get stabbed in the back twice after this.

I saw the original post and I quited on saying that is exactly what is happening right now but this also means they play quite the gamble. If they can't pull it off with this PR stunt...they will suffer a lot more than this.

It all depends on people who are ''awakened '' by this betreyal to hold their ground and show Bioware that this won't just blow over until they do something about it !

[Harbinger of Hope]

meisjoe wrote...

If there is one thing I like less that being misled - (that my choices would actually matter) - it's being handled like some some fringe lunatic, throwing a tantrum. I'm very close to being done with BioWare altogether... whether they release a "fix" to the ending, or not.

I am done. Now I just want to see the endings fixed for everyone else. So you can imagine my disgust when I see these people being so easily distracted by something like this.

[albodibran]

meisjoe wrote...

If there is one thing I like less that being misled - (that my choices would actually matter) - it's being handled like some some fringe lunatic, throwing a tantrum. I'm very close to being done with BioWare altogether... whether they release a "fix" to the ending, or not.

yup. I never expected this nonsense from Bioware. EA should rot and burn. they turned the one bit of rpg story telling genius left into a husk of their reaper cause. if you know what i mean... they killed and did not deliver on any of their promises

[Adler24]

No MP for me this weekend. It's pointless when we know the outcome.

Hold the line

[L33tBadMofo]

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

L33tBadMofo wrote...

I will play the multiplayer event, mainly because that's all there is left to do with this game.

Then you are weak willed and Shepard would be disappoint. Well, the Shepard from ME1, 2, and 3 until the star child. You know, where he submitted like a female dog in heat.

I just fell off my chair laughing lol but to be fair, I did spend $80 on the CE, and I'm far to depressed to go for another playthrough. All thats left is the multiplayer.

[Capeo]

VerdantSF wrote...

Jack_Forest wrote...

read a book

Yup, that's what I've been doing.  It's been nice, being immersed in sci-fi stories that stay true to their initial themes throughout THE ENTIRE SERIES.

Good idea. I've been reading The Sheep Look Up again. Beautiful book and oddly fitting. 

[albodibran]

L33tBadMofo wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

L33tBadMofo wrote...

I will play the multiplayer event, mainly because that's all there is left to do with this game.

Then you are weak willed and Shepard would be disappoint. Well, the Shepard from ME1, 2, and 3 until the star child. You know, where he submitted like a female dog in heat.

I just fell off my chair laughing lol but to be fair, I did spend $80 on the CE, and I'm far to depressed to go for another playthrough. All thats left is the multiplayer.

dont give them the satisfaction

[Harbinger of Hope]

L33tBadMofo wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

L33tBadMofo wrote...

I will play the multiplayer event, mainly because that's all there is left to do with this game.

Then you are weak willed and Shepard would be disappoint. Well, the Shepard from ME1, 2, and 3 until the star child. You know, where he submitted like a female dog in heat.

I just fell off my chair laughing lol but to be fair, I did spend $80 on the CE, and I'm far to depressed to go for another playthrough. All thats left is the multiplayer.

Do you have it for the PC or the consoles?

[L33tBadMofo]

360

[SuperZombieChow]

If this thread gets buried we have failed. I want to like this game Bioware, it's a damn fine game. But the best slide in the world won't get many visitors if it ends by dropping you in a vat of horse ****.

This line, it ain't going to hold itself.

[BrotherFluffy]

Is it just me, or has anyone noticed the shift in some of the topics? And there's more than one person in the boycott threads declaring the line "broken" and going to play MP because it doesn't matter anymore.

[VAIOMANIAC]

I have been spreading the link around to this thread around the forums in hopes that more people see it. This seriously needs to be seen great post OP really great post and good explanation for quoted poster.