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Hydralysk wrote...
http://www.gameinfor...#commentmessage
I'd like to ask anyone who disagrees that this course of action is appropriate at this time post a comment saying this is one person and NOT a representation of the movement as a whole. This paints us all in a bad light and we need to show that we do not support it. We brought the hammer down on the last article that did this, we need to do it again.
Samuel_Valkyrie wrote...
WrexKroganKing wrote...
Apparently the Retake movement was mentioned on CNN.
Keep it up.
Fox News AND CNN?!?
I'm liiking where this is going.
rickelmo wrote...
Beti88 wrote...
Seriously guys - everybody should join the letter campaign:
Letter campaign. There's nothing like a good old fashioned letter campaign. Physical
letters can often mean a lot more than digital ones. I'd like everyone
who is willing and able to compose a letter to send to Bioware (just
them for the moment).
Letters need to be short, and simple.
Highlight why you are writing to them, and what you are asking for. Do
not suggest ideas for a new ending other than in vague terms.
BE POLITE AND COURTEOUS. If it wouldn't be in a Disney cartoon it shouldn't be in your letter.
DO NOT send the letters out yet. There will be a single release date, so Bioware knows we are organized.
add: #RetakeMassEffect somewhere in your letter, so they know we are all in this together.
Can't send a physical letter? Email works, same rules as above.
Where to send:
Mailing Address:
BioWare Edmonton
200-4445 Calgary Trail NW
Edmonton AB
Canada T6H 5R7
Email: contact@bioware.com
Send out your letters on MARCH 17th.
Guys this is something we should be doing. Physical letters mean a lot more than an online petition. Because physical letters have to be dealt with by someone where and online petition can be looked at once and never viewed again.
BrotherFluffy wrote...
Silveralen wrote...
xxskyshadowxx wrote...
He doesn't have a case. Casey never lied in the actual sales advertising, which is what the FTC would look at (if thousands of people filed). The FTC regulates advertising, not PR comments, which is where the misrepresentation occcurred.
Huh, so no action can be taken for misleading PR comments? So as long as it isn't official advertising, you can say whatever you want and nothing can happen, even if they are blntant lies designed to mislead cosnumers? I'm not to sure about all that, especially as the interveiw he gave could be considered an advertisment or promotion of the game, but I'd need to go look at the actual legal definitions.
Look, regardless of whether or not it's right, or even legal, continuing down that path will DESTROY the movement. Even if people ARE successful at bringing an FTC complaint or a class Action suit against EA/BioWare, it will completely turn public opinion against us and BioWare will never fix the endings. If people want to do that, we need to distance ourselves from them like they have the plague.
http://www.facebook.com/DemandABetterEndingToMassEffect3AlekzanderZ wrote...
Where can i find information about the letter campagn ??? maybe someone should start a thread about it!
thebatmanreborn wrote...
The thing is, Casey Hudson is not in Public Relations. Chris and Jessica are Community Managers, again, not Public Relations. My minor is Public Relations, along with Professional Writing as my major. I get people are mad about the ending, but this has really gotten out of hand, especially with the FTC suit. Yes, a lot of gaming magazines called people here "entitlement brats," but that was the work of unprofessional journalists who now have questionable integrity in my book.
A lot of people here seem to be just roaring with blind rage. Games are an art form. They are a platform for storytelling. And I am saddened that Doyle had to continue writing Holmes. He hated it. That character had run his course and he wanted to have other pursuits. Writers have the right to end a story anyway they choose. It's their world and they invite you in to partake of it. If you don't like it, become skeptical of their work, don't buy from them, etc. But continually attacking everything a Bioware employee says is not how you get your way.
Bioware said they are listening. Their track record shows they take a great interest in what their fans think and how they feel. Give them a chance. If they don't deliver, show your frustration with your wallet. If they do deliver, apologize. Seriously, a lot of the devs took a beating from some very angry folks. Anytime that happens, everyone here on BSN is grouped together with that person. Don't give in to mob mentality. Rational thought is always the best course of action.
I understand people didn't like the ending. I didn't either. But Bioware is open to discourse, so discuss. And understand what an opportunity that is. Yes, EA/Bioware is a business that needs to make money or they go out of business. They also love what they do and they sincerely care about their fans (Bioware that is, EA has been stomping on the Madden franchise for years now...).
Give them a chance. They've earned it. They don't deliver, don't buy from them anymore. Lots of great developers out there. They do deliver, then be happy. In any event, please relax. There's been so much anger here lately...
TheRealMithril wrote...
Hydralysk wrote...
http://www.gameinfor...#commentmessage
I'd like to ask anyone who disagrees that this course of action is appropriate at this time post a comment saying this is one person and NOT a representation of the movement as a whole. This paints us all in a bad light and we need to show that we do not support it. We brought the hammer down on the last article that did this, we need to do it again.
I and another guy here in the forum had a discussion about the possibility of this happening four days ago. Never thought it would though.. this is not good news for anyone (including BioWare). This could make EA clam up, because as soon as the legal arm get their gears going, they can stop everything until the "outcome" is decided. This was a really dumb move.
thebatmanreborn wrote...
A lot of people here seem to be just roaring with blind rage. Games are an art form. They are a platform for storytelling. And I am saddened that Doyle had to continue writing Holmes. He hated it. That character had run his course and he wanted to have other pursuits. Writers have the right to end a story anyway they choose. It's their world and they invite you in to partake of it. If you don't like it, become skeptical of their work, don't buy from them, etc. But continually attacking everything a Bioware employee says is not how you get your way.
MajorUhlan wrote...
thebatmanreborn wrote...
The thing is, Casey Hudson is not in Public Relations. Chris and Jessica are Community Managers, again, not Public Relations. My minor is Public Relations, along with Professional Writing as my major. I get people are mad about the ending, but this has really gotten out of hand, especially with the FTC suit. Yes, a lot of gaming magazines called people here "entitlement brats," but that was the work of unprofessional journalists who now have questionable integrity in my book.
A lot of people here seem to be just roaring with blind rage. Games are an art form. They are a platform for storytelling. And I am saddened that Doyle had to continue writing Holmes. He hated it. That character had run his course and he wanted to have other pursuits. Writers have the right to end a story anyway they choose. It's their world and they invite you in to partake of it. If you don't like it, become skeptical of their work, don't buy from them, etc. But continually attacking everything a Bioware employee says is not how you get your way.
Bioware said they are listening. Their track record shows they take a great interest in what their fans think and how they feel. Give them a chance. If they don't deliver, show your frustration with your wallet. If they do deliver, apologize. Seriously, a lot of the devs took a beating from some very angry folks. Anytime that happens, everyone here on BSN is grouped together with that person. Don't give in to mob mentality. Rational thought is always the best course of action.
I understand people didn't like the ending. I didn't either. But Bioware is open to discourse, so discuss. And understand what an opportunity that is. Yes, EA/Bioware is a business that needs to make money or they go out of business. They also love what they do and they sincerely care about their fans (Bioware that is, EA has been stomping on the Madden franchise for years now...).
Give them a chance. They've earned it. They don't deliver, don't buy from them anymore. Lots of great developers out there. They do deliver, then be happy. In any event, please relax. There's been so much anger here lately...
Bioware has gotten a lot of flak for the ending, and rightfully so. Perhaps not all of the worst of the flaming, trolling comments - but those people just show the passion that we as fans have for this artform.
I have seen little anger, and mostly constructive criticism... the FTC suit, or the possibility of one, is the actions of one individual and not the community.
There is no rage here, just continued stalwart acceptance that we must at the very least hold the line, and shoot for going even bigger. Perhaps it is time to get a few of the more constructive and intelligent commentators here on podcasts, Youtube interviews, and perhaps even mainstream media interviews. The coverage by Forbes has been amazing, and we need to keep gaining media capital if we are going to win this thing.
thebatmanreborn wrote...
The thing is, Casey Hudson is not in Public Relations. Chris and Jessica are Community Managers, again, not Public Relations. My minor is Public Relations, along with Professional Writing as my major. I get people are mad about the ending, but this has really gotten out of hand, especially with the FTC suit. Yes, a lot of gaming magazines called people here "entitlement brats," but that was the work of unprofessional journalists who now have questionable integrity in my book.
A lot of people here seem to be just roaring with blind rage. Games are an art form. They are a platform for storytelling. And I am saddened that Doyle had to continue writing Holmes. He hated it. That character had run his course and he wanted to have other pursuits. Writers have the right to end a story anyway they choose. It's their world and they invite you in to partake of it. If you don't like it, become skeptical of their work, don't buy from them, etc. But continually attacking everything a Bioware employee says is not how you get your way.
Bioware said they are listening. Their track record shows they take a great interest in what their fans think and how they feel. Give them a chance. If they don't deliver, show your frustration with your wallet. If they do deliver, apologize. Seriously, a lot of the devs took a beating from some very angry folks. Anytime that happens, everyone here on BSN is grouped together with that person. Don't give in to mob mentality. Rational thought is always the best course of action.
I understand people didn't like the ending. I didn't either. But Bioware is open to discourse, so discuss. And understand what an opportunity that is. Yes, EA/Bioware is a business that needs to make money or they go out of business. They also love what they do and they sincerely care about their fans (Bioware that is, EA has been stomping on the Madden franchise for years now...).
Give them a chance. They've earned it. They don't deliver, don't buy from them anymore. Lots of great developers out there. They do deliver, then be happy. In any event, please relax. There's been so much anger here lately...
thebatmanreborn wrote...
The thing is, Casey Hudson is not in Public Relations. Chris and Jessica are Community Managers, again, not Public Relations. My minor is Public Relations, along with Professional Writing as my major. I get people are mad about the ending, but this has really gotten out of hand, especially with the FTC suit. Yes, a lot of gaming magazines called people here "entitlement brats," but that was the work of unprofessional journalists who now have questionable integrity in my book.
A lot of people here seem to be just roaring with blind rage. Games are an art form. They are a platform for storytelling. And I am saddened that Doyle had to continue writing Holmes. He hated it. That character had run his course and he wanted to have other pursuits. Writers have the right to end a story anyway they choose. It's their world and they invite you in to partake of it. If you don't like it, become skeptical of their work, don't buy from them, etc. But continually attacking everything a Bioware employee says is not how you get your way.
Bioware said they are listening. Their track record shows they take a great interest in what their fans think and how they feel. Give them a chance. If they don't deliver, show your frustration with your wallet. If they do deliver, apologize. Seriously, a lot of the devs took a beating from some very angry folks. Anytime that happens, everyone here on BSN is grouped together with that person. Don't give in to mob mentality. Rational thought is always the best course of action.
I understand people didn't like the ending. I didn't either. But Bioware is open to discourse, so discuss. And understand what an opportunity that is. Yes, EA/Bioware is a business that needs to make money or they go out of business. They also love what they do and they sincerely care about their fans (Bioware that is, EA has been stomping on the Madden franchise for years now...).
Give them a chance. They've earned it. They don't deliver, don't buy from them anymore. Lots of great developers out there. They do deliver, then be happy. In any event, please relax. There's been so much anger here lately...
Syrellaris wrote...
Indeed bioware has taken a lot of flag from a minority group with no respect. Acting like arrogant little brats. They didnt deserve that in anyway.
Modifié par TheRealMithril, 17 mars 2012 - 08:56 .
Promchek wrote...
Syrellaris wrote...
Indeed bioware has taken a lot of flag from a minority group with no respect. Acting like arrogant little brats. They didnt deserve that in anyway.
really, no one cares, move along
Modifié par Syrellaris, 17 mars 2012 - 08:59 .
Syrellaris wrote...
Indeed bioware has taken a lot of flag from a minority group with no respect. Acting like arrogant little brats. They didnt deserve that in anyway.
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