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[Cloud Windfoot Omega]

The Almighty Ali wrote...

Cloud Windfoot Omega wrote...

imageine the marketing.  if they changed it by using the indictination

then they put out a dlc after thats FREE (i would not buy it god damn, thye owe me a finished product as they promised  it would have an end)

imagine how much hype that would generate   falsifying us into an end that they could take credit for.  if everything that happned turned out to be indoctination  then just think about how awesome it can be.

 if ou chose the red you are free right at the start where you rejoin your crew

but if not. you open  to the kid telling you you did a good job and you are now a part of the system or something.  but there are still problems, control system is not working  right and you have to  eliminate them for the crucible to work right.

so you have to fight though waves,  but as you do sometihng does not feel right.

it turns out that you  never left earth and are accually  shooting allience.   (possibly your own team)  somewhere though the battle you gain control. 

then the real ending starts

You should toss that up at the suggestion thread.
Just incase.

would they let spoilers?

[gee666]

I posted this in the did the ending ruin the game for you thread

*snip*
So unless somthing changes I have wasted £60 (well not wasted as I enjoyed alot of it, but £60 is alot of money for somthing that I don't want to play again)
If that was what Bioware wanted then well done to them but I will be very wary of buying anything with a Bioware logo on it again.
if not if it is part of some paln then they have tried somthing VERY diffrent but I'm not sure that I will freel the same way about Bioware being a quality prodcer again, and that I guess from a company stand point is very bad I guess.

I work for a hotel and there is a theory that if a customer has a bad experience they will tell 20 people. If they have a good one they might tell 5, if you have a customer that has a bad experiende but you fix it for them excedding expectations then they become one of the most loyal customers you can have,,,,THAT is how Bioware get out of this smelling of roses

I will hold the line
but not sure for how much longer I can only care about a game for so long

[Devils-DIVISION]

I agree with every single word! Don't play MP, if you must play SP offline so they can't track you. Send these a-holes a message!

[cokohpuffs41]

 

atghunter wrote...

[*]Your analysis is fascinating, detailed, and well thought out.  It just made my list of things to print out and wrap my head around tomorrow.  Thank you for taking the time to share it!

No problem, atghunter.  Your initial analysis motivated me to do some analysis.

Thanks to those who've read through that wall of text as well!  

Now it's time to relax and have myself some green beer!

[Kulthar Drax]

I would also, if possible, write in the date/time that this topic was last updated in the title of the thread, so people have a clearer idea of when the first post was originally updated and can keep checking periodically.

Modifié par Kulthar Drax, 18 mars 2012 - 02:52 .

[Innocent Bystander]

Sawtooth357 wrote...

Atghunter, I've seen alot of people cancelling their Star Wars: Old Republic accounts in protest. I would like your opinion on whether or not you see this as a valid and viable tactic. Do you think it helps or hurts this movement?

As I had similar, but much much smaller, issues with other EA's games in the past, I couldn't cancel mine fast enough. It was sad but necesary.

[Promchek]

cokohpuffs41 wrote...

 

atghunter wrote...

[*]Your analysis is fascinating, detailed, and well thought out.  It just made my list of things to print out and wrap my head around tomorrow.  Thank you for taking the time to share it!

No problem, atghunter.  Your initial analysis motivated me to do some analysis.

Thanks to those who've read through that wall of text as well!  

Now it's time to relax and have myself some green beer!

it was actually a wel written wall, so no troubles to read it

[donbaloo]

Hmmm, I should have checked this thread long ago. I've gotten pretty fed up with all the rage-hate on the endings and the lack of civility in general especially in the spoiler free zone. I chalked it up to just being too old and crotchety about how you youngsters have a me first mentality. You folks have it going on here though, I like how you're going about this.

I love BioWares stuff and so eagerly await their games. They do everything right for my tastes, ya know. And I don't mind the endings so much, they were poor but the rest of the game overshadows it so much it doesnt bother me a great deal. The review bombings just break my heart.

I hope you all can continue to do this constructively and get some sort of satisfactory response. Just please try not to mortally wound the only game developer that really does it right for me, okay? :-) And if there's a section of the line thats specifically for expressing disgust in the MP being necessary for one of the SP endings, I'll actually help that section to....Hold...The...Line.

[Cloud Windfoot Omega]

i mean what better way send off a series then to disapoihnt just about everyone on purpose (there would be people who liked the ending no matter how bad it was) and then rectify it all with free dlc. that would be an amazing way to send sometihng off. crate a gioant hate buzz and then suddenly the problem disapears. how woudl anyone forget that?!

[c3pu2]

just realised dragon age 2 was strike 1 this is strike 2 they better shape up just saying

[Lozark]

Avoiding business with Bioware or EA, such as by cancelling your TOR account, can only help. It demonstrates the severe impact this whole thing has had on their name, and thus on their bottom line, and gives them more incentive to listen to us and resolve things with us.

Modifié par Lozark, 18 mars 2012 - 02:54 .

[FFinfinity1]

I felt more satisfaction from the ME2 than I did from the ME3 ending, the reason why is because just about every major choice I made from the start

collecting my team
acquiring their loyalty
and upgrading my ship

was taken into account into the ending as a whole, and my options in the ending changed along too with it.

Why couldn't Bioware have done this to the final game in their series especially since the gravity of your decisions were much greater. If we reunited each race in the galaxy or made a grave error such as getting one allying through deception why did it not reflect in our ending.

Yes I want a good ending where Shepard lives and the reapers are done for (despite it being somewhat unrealistic) but hell I would settle for an ending where he died, being the end of his story and all yet the ending we received in ME3 just shocked me because despite being promoted as 16 endings it was essentially one with slight variations.

example:


As a long time fan who has read the books and comics as well as played ME1,2, and bought the Collectors edition for the Third. I truly care for this series and it is a damn shame that it is ending on such a sour note with no closure for the majority of the fans bioware.

Hell three of my friends from school all agreed the ending was rubbish and something needed to be done. All i ask is for a something to be done to stop these arguments

[Chromie]

c3pu2 wrote...

just realised dragon age 2 was strike 1 this is strike 2 they better shape up just saying

Dragon Age 2 was strike 1.
Star Wars the Old Republic was strike 2.
Mass Effect 3 was strike 3.

I'm not abandoning Bioware I just won't buy anything on launch. Also I know TOR is an MMO so obviously it will change but for launch it's much worse than say Rift was on launch. Yes I said Rift and not WoW.

[c3pu2]

donbaloo wrote...

Hmmm, I should have checked this thread long ago. I've gotten pretty fed up with all the rage-hate on the endings and the lack of civility in general especially in the spoiler free zone. I chalked it up to just being too old and crotchety about how you youngsters have a me first mentality. You folks have it going on here though, I like how you're going about this.

I love BioWares stuff and so eagerly await their games. They do everything right for my tastes, ya know. And I don't mind the endings so much, they were poor but the rest of the game overshadows it so much it doesnt bother me a great deal. The review bombings just break my heart.

I hope you all can continue to do this constructively and get some sort of satisfactory response. Just please try not to mortally wound the only game developer that really does it right for me, okay? :-) And if there's a section of the line thats specifically for expressing disgust in the MP being necessary for one of the SP endings, I'll actually help that section to....Hold...The...Line.

its right here was so anoyed wen i understood what i ad to do to get my galaxy at war%rising to do it then realise it was going down as fast as it rose

[Cloud Windfoot Omega]

c3pu2 wrote...

just realised dragon age 2 was strike 1 this is strike 2 they better shape up just saying

strike 3 is all the dlc they push on us for outragous prices

[Cloud Windfoot Omega]

double post cuz  i thought  the other post  never  hapepned,  refreshed but nope

Modifié par Cloud Windfoot Omega, 18 mars 2012 - 02:58 .

[The Almighty Ali]

Cloud Windfoot Omega wrote...

The Almighty Ali wrote...

Cloud Windfoot Omega wrote...

imageine the marketing.  if they changed it by using the indictination

then they put out a dlc after thats FREE (i would not buy it god damn, thye owe me a finished product as they promised  it would have an end)

imagine how much hype that would generate   falsifying us into an end that they could take credit for.  if everything that happned turned out to be indoctination  then just think about how awesome it can be.

 if ou chose the red you are free right at the start where you rejoin your crew

but if not. you open  to the kid telling you you did a good job and you are now a part of the system or something.  but there are still problems, control system is not working  right and you have to  eliminate them for the crucible to work right.

so you have to fight though waves,  but as you do sometihng does not feel right.

it turns out that you  never left earth and are accually  shooting allience.   (possibly your own team)  somewhere though the battle you gain control. 

then the real ending starts

You should toss that up at the suggestion thread.
Just incase.

would they let spoilers?

There are so much ideas up there that you'd never know if they pick your idea and whatnot, that would be something we'd see if they release a DLC to continue the story forward.

Modifié par The Almighty Ali, 18 mars 2012 - 02:58 .

[Cloud Windfoot Omega]

The Almighty Ali wrote...

Cloud Windfoot Omega wrote...

The Almighty Ali wrote...

Cloud Windfoot Omega wrote...

imageine the marketing.  if they changed it by using the indictination

then they put out a dlc after thats FREE (i would not buy it god damn, thye owe me a finished product as they promised  it would have an end)

imagine how much hype that would generate   falsifying us into an end that they could take credit for.  if everything that happned turned out to be indoctination  then just think about how awesome it can be.

 if ou chose the red you are free right at the start where you rejoin your crew

but if not. you open  to the kid telling you you did a good job and you are now a part of the system or something.  but there are still problems, control system is not working  right and you have to  eliminate them for the crucible to work right.

so you have to fight though waves,  but as you do sometihng does not feel right.

it turns out that you  never left earth and are accually  shooting allience.   (possibly your own team)  somewhere though the battle you gain control. 

then the real ending starts

You should toss that up at the suggestion thread.
Just incase.

would they let spoilers?

There are so much ideas up there that you'd never know if they pick your idea and whatnot, that would be something we'd see if they release a DLC to continue the story forward.

where is the tread

[atghunter]

Double post.  My apologies everyone!

Modifié par atghunter, 18 mars 2012 - 03:12 .

[mopotter]

DoctorCrowtgamer wrote...

Holding the line. Talked another person out of buying the game.

Please continue to hold the line as long as it takes people.

Well, Amazon is down to 2 stars.   561 reviewed, yes a drop in the bucket, but interesting.  

[Hydralysk]

donbaloo wrote...

Hmmm, I should have checked this thread long ago. I've gotten pretty fed up with all the rage-hate on the endings and the lack of civility in general especially in the spoiler free zone. I chalked it up to just being too old and crotchety about how you youngsters have a me first mentality. You folks have it going on here though, I like how you're going about this.

I love BioWares stuff and so eagerly await their games. They do everything right for my tastes, ya know. And I don't mind the endings so much, they were poor but the rest of the game overshadows it so much it doesnt bother me a great deal. The review bombings just break my heart.

I hope you all can continue to do this constructively and get some sort of satisfactory response. Just please try not to mortally wound the only game developer that really does it right for me, okay? :-) And if there's a section of the line thats specifically for expressing disgust in the MP being necessary for one of the SP endings, I'll actually help that section to....Hold...The...Line.

I don't think anyone here really wants to cause lasting harm to Bioware, the reason we are so passionate about this topic is because of how much we loved the first two games they created as well as most of the third. We just want an ending that in our opinion fits better in the Mass Effect universe.

Thanks for the help holding that line as well.

Modifié par Hydralysk, 18 mars 2012 - 03:01 .

[Amagoi]

For me. Awakening was Strike 1, Dragon Age 2 I enjoyed, but had problems with parts, and the DLC sort of made it into strike 2. This ending, yeah, definatly third strike. Don't worry about me, I won't play MP until this is resolved. I took away my wifi on the xbox. Now there's no chance! I'll advise my friends to do the same.

I feel like we need a better catchphrase that reflects our aims, rather than just 'Ending sucks' or 'Hold the line'.

[OniRogue]

cokohpuffs41 wrote...

 

atghunter wrote...

Your analysis is fascinating, detailed, and well thought out.  It just made my list of things to print out and wrap my head around tomorrow.  Thank you for taking the time to share it!

No problem, atghunter.  Your initial analysis motivated me to do some analysis.

Thanks to those who've read through that wall of text as well!  

Now it's time to relax and have myself some green beer!

First off I want to thank you for your (at least for me) very insightful analysis!

I actually have a question for you (or anyone else who knows something about that matter):

While I am not against paying for an alternate Ending DLC pack, knowing that marketing costs can rise to astronomical heights do you think the option to make it Free would be feasible and under consideration at the respective marketing department?
(Weighing the value of the positive Advertisement against the actual Production costs?)

Thinking about all this stuff makes me realise how I do not want to be in the shoes of someone making these decisions

[Reidbynature]

Bachuck wrote...

No_MSG wrote...

Hey, just throwing this out there. Should we "win" (we won't), and Bioware removes the original endings (they won't), we should totally support that movement, too. Cause otherwise I'd feel bad.

To supplant the original endings would hurt and annoy the people who enjoy them. Mass Effect began with choice and it should end with choice. That's what the series has always been about.

Exactly.  Like I've just said in my feedback for the ME3 changes and feedback thread (I'll admit I was longwinded about it though), I do not wish to remove those endings because others in this community do enjoy them and I have no wish to rob them of that joy.

[Cloud Windfoot Omega]

Reidbynature wrote...

Bachuck wrote...

No_MSG wrote...

Hey, just throwing this out there. Should we "win" (we won't), and Bioware removes the original endings (they won't), we should totally support that movement, too. Cause otherwise I'd feel bad.

To supplant the original endings would hurt and annoy the people who enjoy them. Mass Effect began with choice and it should end with choice. That's what the series has always been about.

Exactly.  Like I've just said in my feedback for the ME3 changes and feedback thread (I'll admit I was longwinded about it though), I do not wish to remove those endings because others in this community do enjoy them and I have no wish to rob them of that joy.

they found joy ina false god and must be punished with  my intollerance