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Has there been any word from BW about it being impossible to get 4000 w/o MP?


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:huh:I didn't play a LICK of MP and had over 5k EMS (it wasn't alot over 5k, but it was still over it). When my game ended, I got the stargazer scene and breath scenes, then started MP.  I've since started a new game because of not having my paragon up high enough to do certain things<_<. That being said, you have to do ALL (and I do mean all) of the side missions.  Constantly go back to the citadel and walk around listening to people.

What did I do?  I did 1 mission, citadel, mission, citadel. Get it?;):whistle:


I did all the missions. Either provide proof, or you've got an troll-report against you...

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... but if the synthesis ending is "the best" that ending is not hard at all to get like they said the best ending would be :S

Hmm, speculations speculations...:?


Well, to be fair, I don't know how easy it is without an import. Even then, I assume you have to do certain things that I probably did. But it makes sense, imo, because, other than the breath ending, doesn't it take the highest amount of EMS to achieve?


pretty huge gap between the 2 though, synthesis requires 2800 ems (wich in my ccase was ridiculously easy to get, but that might be because of my previous saves of ME and ME2), breath ending requires 4000 ems + save andersson according to the official guide to ME3

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

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I got almost 6000 EMS without multiplayer. However it was a pure paragon import so I had assets like the destiny ascension (from ME1) which obviously got me over the line


Screen, please. I did a perfect paragon import with everything (minus Arrival DLC) and I had less than 4k EMS without MP.


Ill try and upload a shot of it but ive played multiplayer now so my readiness is at like 70% though if you do the maths it should still work out

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No the best ending would have Shepard survive. Otherwise it's not the best possible outcome. And is it just me who is worried that Bioware haven't commented on this nearly a month after release?

PS Synthesis is just like uplifting the Krogan. The galaxy isn't ready for it.


The best ending...for us. The fans. Not necessarily BioWare.


Cack.

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I've tried it, it's impossible, frankly. Although I've managed to bypass the deterioration in Galactic Readiness system; played several MP games; boosted my Galactic Readiness to approx. %85 and stopped connecting to XBL. At all, as in never. It never decreased and stayed at %85, besides, you get a free 2-day-access with it, if you're not willing to pay. Good luck.

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I've noticed that I've already received a few more points by importing an ME1+2 with completed pre-ME3 DLCs and by completing the From Ashes DLC for ME3. Anyone know if doing that can make the 8000*50%=4000EMS mark?

While that's not 4000EMS by playing the core ME3 only, it would still count as "not requiring multiplayer" technically.

I have not completed the game a second time, yet. It is just something I noticed that is different from my first non-import, non-DLC playthrough of ME3.

Modifié par ReggarBlane, 02 avril 2012 - 02:55 .


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CimCake wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

CimCake wrote...


... but if the synthesis ending is "the best" that ending is not hard at all to get like they said the best ending would be :S

Hmm, speculations speculations...:?


Well, to be fair, I don't know how easy it is without an import. Even then, I assume you have to do certain things that I probably did. But it makes sense, imo, because, other than the breath ending, doesn't it take the highest amount of EMS to achieve?


pretty huge gap between the 2 though, synthesis requires 2800 ems (wich in my ccase was ridiculously easy to get, but that might be because of my previous saves of ME and ME2), breath ending requires 4000 ems + save andersson according to the official guide to ME3



...which you can't get without multiplayer (or the iOS app). 

Since we're left with Synthesis as the second highest, then, I'm inclined to believe they intended that to be the "best" ending, and the next one up is more or less just a reward for doing the extra work (in MP).

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Rane7685 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Rane7685 wrote...

I got almost 6000 EMS without multiplayer. However it was a pure paragon import so I had assets like the destiny ascension (from ME1) which obviously got me over the line


Screen, please. I did a perfect paragon import with everything (minus Arrival DLC) and I had less than 4k EMS without MP.


Ill try and upload a shot of it but ive played multiplayer now so my readiness is at like 70% though if you do the maths it should still work out


Fine.

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Rane7685 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Rane7685 wrote...

I got almost 6000 EMS without multiplayer. However it was a pure paragon import so I had assets like the destiny ascension (from ME1) which obviously got me over the line


Screen, please. I did a perfect paragon import with everything (minus Arrival DLC) and I had less than 4k EMS without MP.


Ill try and upload a shot of it but ive played multiplayer now so my readiness is at like 70% though if you do the maths it should still work out


Pure Paragon as in you probably didn't kill Wrex, or screw over the Krogan, both of which yield higher war assets than saving Wrex and not sabotaging the cure.

Yes, screenshot please. 8)

Modifié par GBGriffin, 02 avril 2012 - 02:59 .


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GBGriffin wrote...

Rane7685 wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

Rane7685 wrote...

I got almost 6000 EMS without multiplayer. However it was a pure paragon import so I had assets like the destiny ascension (from ME1) which obviously got me over the line


Screen, please. I did a perfect paragon import with everything (minus Arrival DLC) and I had less than 4k EMS without MP.


Ill try and upload a shot of it but ive played multiplayer now so my readiness is at like 70% though if you do the maths it should still work out


Pure Paragon as in you probably didn't kill Wrex, or screw over the Krogan, both of which yield higher war assets than saving Wrex and not sabotaging the cure.

Yes, screenshot please. 8)


Ok booted up the save game and yes I read the wrong one I had a total military strength of 7300 which dividing by 2 is less than the 4000 EMS required my apologies

Modifié par Rane7685, 02 avril 2012 - 03:02 .


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I always love to read the arrogance of the people who claim to have surpassed 4000 without multiplayer. As if nobody else saved the council, as if nobody did the Citadel missions. No, people, you're not just that much better at the game than the rest of us. Your copy is bugged, you're confusing EMS with TMS, you used one of the iPhone apps, or you're lying.

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I've seen several attempts to catalog all the GWA's. Every one of them shows the total coming up to less than 8,000 TMS (total military strength) which yields less than 4,000 EMS without MP or those silly iOS games (meaning Galactic Readiness at 50%).

Every post that I've seen from users who claim to have more 4,000 EMS have turned out to be someone who is confused about the difference between TMS and EMS, or they have ignored the fact that we are talking about EMS with a GR of 50%.

On my one and only playthrough of ME3, I got a TMS of about 6900. I made one or two sub-optimal choices in ME3, but in looking at the tables, those only cost me about 250 TMS. Since I never played ME1 or any of the other DLC, there were some other "default" decisions that were sub-optimal as well. But those only cost me around 500 TMS from what I can tell. Fixing all those issues still only leaves me with a total in the mid to high 7,000's. Unless all the attempts to tabulate the set of all GWA's are missing something big, there is no way that I can see to get to 8,000 TMS.

It would be sooonice if Bioware could issue a simply statement on whether one can actually reach 8,000 TMS at the end of ME3 (and if they claim yes, show us).  Everyone keeps throwing around the term "best ending" which is meaningless.  If you want resolution on this issue you have to use terms that are not open to interpretation.  Ask and talk only about TMS values if you want a real answer.

Modifié par leapingmonkeys, 02 avril 2012 - 03:08 .


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I'm just gonna use gibbed and call it a day. Easy enough.

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Rane7685 wrote...


Ok booted up the save game and yes I read the wrong one I had a total military strength of 7300 which dividing by 2 is less than the 4000 EMS required my apologies


I figured that was the case, and that's fine. I think people get the two amounts confused, and that's understandable. Typically, when I've seen people make similar posts, they did the same thing.

No harm, no foul :)

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Unit-Alpha wrote...

I'm just gonna use gibbed and call it a day. Easy enough.


Yeah. I changed Kirrahe to 10,000 War Assets (still haven't finished that playthrough yet).

IMO, he should be worth more.

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GBGriffin wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...
I'm just gonna use gibbed and call it a day. Easy enough.


Yeah. I changed Kirrahe to 10,000 War Assets (still haven't finished that playthrough yet).

IMO, he should be worth more.

Heh. I gave Conrad 5,000.

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I honestly doubt it is possible to go at/over 4k EMS with 50% of galactic readiness.
I imported ME1+ME2 savegame and it was like totally Paragon with everything done ( more or less right...rewrote the heretics... :/ ). Also I did almost everything in ME3 to improve my EMS. Now before going to Cerberus I had like 3.5k EMS. Yeah of course there can be a more. But I am quite sure I didn''t miss this muchof the game that I am lacking over 1k of EMS.

Do you get in the DLCs from ME2 things which give you more War Assets? Because the only DLC I had for ME2 was LOTSB. But even if - that would mean " okay you don't need to go MP for >4k but you need to buy DLC " - yeahh that's way better....

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GBGriffin wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

I'm just gonna use gibbed and call it a day. Easy enough.


Yeah. I changed Kirrahe to 10,000 War Assets (still haven't finished that playthrough yet).

IMO, he should be worth more.

Same here. :D

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I'm just curious of why this subject keeps coming up? I mean just the fact that its impossible to reach 4,000 (let alone 5,000) in Single Player alone. This is a Fact. Yes Bioware said you could. No, you in fact can't.

So instead of using the search function to see that NO, you can't, shouldn't you guys be focusing your efforts on ways to get Bioware to fix this instead? It's simple, too. Make the single player N7 missions boost GR% and have those boosts apply only to that character and be permenant. Make it so the boost, if you do them all, is 25% per zone, and you'll end the game with 75% GR (not optimal, but enough to get a all ending options). Seems simple enough.

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Synthesis is likely considered the best ending by Bioware but i find it silly since not a lot of people will like synthesis.

Think of it as someone knocking you out then while you're unconsciousness, the same person cuts off your arms and legs and replace them with robotic ones complete with nerve endings. You will still feel that someone FORCED something onto you.

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I don't think it is possible to get >4000 ems in SP only no matter what you do.

But even if there was a single combination to get >4000 EMS where you had to match ALL the right choices between the 3 games they have to fix it anyway.
If there is 1 combination over 1.000.000 to succeed in getting the "best" end, it would be true that it's TECHNICALLY possible then, but you cannot prevent player from getting it because of a single choice in one of the three chapters which provide you less war assets than another one.

Therefore if they are going to tell us: "In order to do it you have to do (A+B+C) in ME1, (D+E+F) in ME2 and (G+H+I) in ME3 and this is the only possible way" I won't accept it as a reasonable answer.
They have to increase the number of available war assets in SP or increase the value of the already existing ones.

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 02 avril 2012 - 03:46 .


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A few people told me that even with the future DLC, we'll be able to raise our EMS past the 4000 barrier, BUT, if there should be a new endings DLC, the EMS will be raised to 5000 or more to get that ending. And even if we have a few new DLC's I don't think there'll be enough war assets in those DLC's to punch us over 5000+ EMS to achieve the new ending without playing multiplayer because the EMS number has been elevated.

I pray that this is wrong and my friends are just throwing hot air at me. Image IPB

Modifié par Wrath of Bastila Shan, 02 avril 2012 - 10:57 .


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oops! dp

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We work up to 100% and disconnect from Xbox live.


THIS IS SUCH A GREAT IDEA. Thank you for posting this. I don't want to keep paying for Gold just so I can get over 4,000 EMS in ME3 single-player. What a great work-around.

Inxentas wrote...

IMO the whole Galactic Readyness percentage is a rubbish game mechanic. I think the promotion of MP characters to bump an SP score is fine, but to have your SP score halved because you felt to much of a bigshot to sit around in a lobby surrounded by the CoD generation... man, that's sour.


^ Giving people who play single-player HALF credit for all the time they spend doing side-missions makes spending said time feel super rewarding.

Seriously, whose GREAT IDEA was it to essentially penalize people for playing a single-player RPG in single-player mode?

Here's a better idea: give people 100% credit for the resources they gather in SP mode, and give people who play MP extra credit.

Problem solved.

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Computron2000 wrote...

Synthesis is likely considered the best ending by Bioware but i find it silly since not a lot of people will like synthesis.

Think of it as someone knocking you out then while you're unconsciousness, the same person cuts off your arms and legs and replace them with robotic ones complete with nerve endings. You will still feel that someone FORCED something onto you.


It is doubly silly in that the "Shepard Lives" ending requires a *higher* EMS to achieve.  Certainly one would have to consider that the ending that requires the highest EMS to be the "best" ending...