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[DarkOrgasm]

[Valo_Soren]

Except that its not impossible, since I've done it myself.

[Valo_Soren]

Also, realize, that DLC will probably provide more war assets as well and make it even more able.

[Cobra's_back]

wulf3n wrote...

I managed to get EMS > 4000 without multiplayer?

Did you find 8000 War Asset?

[Capeo]

@ DarkOrgasm. So? Your readiness rating is 100%. Your actual TMS is super low.

@Valo, no you didn't. It's already been proven impossible without MP.

[Valo_Soren]

Capeo wrote...

@ DarkOrgasm. So? Your readiness rating is 100%. Your actual TMS is super low.

@Valo, no you didn't. It's already been proven impossible without MP.

Yes, I bloody well did, its not impossible, you only need 4-5 EMS to get the same 3 endings that you can get with full 100 percent readiness. It is possible to get up to that much on single player alone, especially if you imported. It's not impossible. It's highly likely that people who'ven ot achieved at least 4k missed something in war asset gathering.

[Cobra's_back]

dfstone wrote...

You can get over 4k without multiplayer. Getting over 5k is hard.

You would need to find 8000 War Asset for a 4000 EMS.

[Valo_Soren]

And another thing, multi player is actually quite fun and feels like you are doing SP missions anyway from the point of view of soldiers across the galaxy. So why would the fact that the readiness you get from doing MP, helping you, be a bad thing? You all act like the multiplayer is a sin and are being way too over dramatic about it.

[Cobra's_back]

Valo_Soren wrote...

Except that its not impossible, since I've done it myself.

The DLC gave about 100. If you play MP , readiness is 50%. The War Asset havs to be 8000 to get the 4000 EMS.

[DarkOrgasm]

Capeo wrote...

@ DarkOrgasm. So? Your readiness rating is 100%. Your actual TMS is super low.

@Valo, no you didn't. It's already been proven impossible without MP.

Correct, this is current score on a NewGame+ that used an imported Shep from Me1+ME2. I'm in the middle of the Quarian/Geth missions, so theres more scoring to come.  First playthrough I got to 59xx for TMS and I did play MP to get it at 100% before I did the final conduit uplink thing. I don't see how anyone can get 8000+ TMS when most have played through meticiously and to think there could be 3000+ assets out there that are being missed?

I used the screenie to show that you can get more than 4000+ on SP but if not using any other means to increase GR, then what BW says = fail for many of us that can't/won't play MP or have iOS etc.

The Readiness Rating seems to decay about 2.5% per day that you don't play any MP. I had just played about 3 matchs earlier and got it back up to 100 when I took the screen.

Modifié par DarkOrgasm, 30 mars 2012 - 08:52 .

[Forsythia]

No, there is no problem with multiplayer actually helping you in the singleplayer game. It should not, however, be a requirement to get the best ending. That is what the problem is.

[Cobra's_back]

Valo_Soren wrote...

And another thing, multi player is actually quite fun and feels like you are doing SP missions anyway from the point of view of soldiers across the galaxy. So why would the fact that the readiness you get from doing MP, helping you, be a bad thing? You all act like the multiplayer is a sin and are being way too over dramatic about it.

This is not part of the post. It is just a question asking if it is possible.

[Prism]

Valo_Soren wrote...

Capeo wrote...

@ DarkOrgasm. So? Your readiness rating is 100%. Your actual TMS is super low.

@Valo, no you didn't. It's already been proven impossible without MP.

Yes, I bloody well did, its not impossible, you only need 4-5 EMS to get the same 3 endings that you can get with full 100 percent readiness. It is possible to get up to that much on single player alone, especially if you imported. It's not impossible. It's highly likely that people who'ven ot achieved at least 4k missed something in war asset gathering.

My good sir, as I said on the previous page, please be kind and post a screenshot so we can bring some actual facts into the discussion.

[Capeo]

Valo_Soren wrote...

Capeo wrote...

@ DarkOrgasm. So? Your readiness rating is 100%. Your actual TMS is super low.

@Valo, no you didn't. It's already been proven impossible without MP.

Yes, I bloody well did, its not impossible, you only need 4-5 EMS to get the same 3 endings that you can get with full 100 percent readiness. It is possible to get up to that much on single player alone, especially if you imported. It's not impossible. It's highly likely that people who'ven ot achieved at least 4k missed something in war asset gathering.

No you didn't.  You are mixing up TMS and EMS.  You would need over 8000 TMS.  There is not that much in the game even with the DLC.  This has already been proven by adding up all war assets fom the game files.  You cannot break 8000 TMS.

Modifié par Capeo, 30 mars 2012 - 08:58 .

[DarkOrgasm]

Forsythia wrote...

No, there is no problem with multiplayer actually helping you in the singleplayer game. It should not, however, be a requirement to get the best ending. That is what the problem is.

So we were told

[RazorrX]

Valo_Soren wrote...

Capeo wrote...

@ DarkOrgasm. So? Your readiness rating is 100%. Your actual TMS is super low.

@Valo, no you didn't. It's already been proven impossible without MP.

Yes, I bloody well did, its not impossible, you only need 4-5 EMS to get the same 3 endings that you can get with full 100 percent readiness. It is possible to get up to that much on single player alone, especially if you imported. It's not impossible. It's highly likely that people who'ven ot achieved at least 4k missed something in war asset gathering.

Okay going to try and explain this to you -

In order to get 4000-5000 EMS with a single player ONLY game you would need 8000 or 10,000 TMS.

See this is where many people get it all messed up.  (T) ms is the Total Military Strength you have.  EVERYONE is saying that you can get around 7500ish TMS with a complete run.  We all agree with that statement.  The problem is that in order for single player ONLY to have an (E)ms (Effective Military Strength) of 4000 they would actually need to have a TMS of 8000.  This is impossible in a single player only game.  Now to have a EMS of 5000 in a single player only game you would need a TMS of 10,000.  IF you can not get 8k you sure as hell can not get 10k.

What people who make the mistake are doing is they are thinking that the TMS is the EMS because they  have 100% Galactic Readiness.  This is due to Multiplayer.  Glalactic Readiness is set at 50% for single player.  Thus if you have 7600 TMS and have done ZERO multiplayer you actually only have an EMS score of 3,800.  

Get it?  You can not get 4K or 5K EMS with single player alone.  

The formula is: TMS * GR (galactic Readiness)= EMS

Since the MAXIMUM TMS currently in the game is around 7600 it is impossible for anyone to get the EMS required for the shep breathing ending without EITHER Multiplayer OR the iOS apps.

[Frozen83]

Possible: get enough EMS for all three "best" endings (Earth not destroyed).
Not possible: get over 4000 EMS for "breathing" ending.
If you look at war assets, some are mutually exclusive (must keep that in mind!). The best scenario would give you about 3700-3800 EMS with 50% gal. r. So, yes, you can get "the best ending" withouth MP, sensu latissimo. But not EVERY ending possible. M.

[Capeo]

Valo_Soren wrote...

And another thing, multi player is actually quite fun and feels like you are doing SP missions anyway from the point of view of soldiers across the galaxy. So why would the fact that the readiness you get from doing MP, helping you, be a bad thing? You all act like the multiplayer is a sin and are being way too over dramatic about it.

Because you cannot get 4000 EMS without MP which is utter BS.  I don't want to play stupid horde mode MP.  It's shoddy crap.  If I'm going to play an MP game I'm going to play a good one not a tacked on one.  On top of that some people just don't like MP or they don't have Live or an internet connection.  ME is supposed to be an SP RPG first.  The simple fact is BW lied.  

Modifié par Capeo, 30 mars 2012 - 08:58 .

[RazorrX]

DarkOrgasm wrote...

Your TMS is quite low actually.  The Galactic Readiness is at 100% - this is because of either Multiplayer OR iOS apps.  Single player Galactic Readiness is set to 50%.  The formula for actual EMS is simple - 

EMS = TMS * GR 

In your case 4962 * 100% = 4962

Now if you had not played multiplayer then your EMS would actually be:

4962 * 50% (GR from single player only) = 2481

So in a single player game - you would end up with earth devestated in the end and no shep breathing.

[DarkOrgasm]

Capeo wrote...

Valo_Soren wrote...

Capeo wrote...

@ DarkOrgasm. So? Your readiness rating is 100%. Your actual TMS is super low.

@Valo, no you didn't. It's already been proven impossible without MP.

Yes, I bloody well did, its not impossible, you only need 4-5 EMS to get the same 3 endings that you can get with full 100 percent readiness. It is possible to get up to that much on single player alone, especially if you imported. It's not impossible. It's highly likely that people who'ven ot achieved at least 4k missed something in war asset gathering.

No you didn't.  You are mixing up TMS and EMS.  You would need over 8000 TMS.  There is not that much in the game even with the DLC.  This has already been proven by adding up all war assets fom the game files.  You cannot break 8000 TMS without using the app or doing MP.

I imported and had almost 6000 TMS with no MPand GR @ 50%, so that means my EMS would be 3000 = FAIL for supposed best ending.

[Prism]

Mafia_Steve wrote...
2) I just checked, and I have a total of 118 TMS from that Kasumi mission
         - Hanar and Drell: 58 (including Hanar medigel quest update)
         - Kasumi Goto: 25
         - Salarian Special Tasks Group - 35

Yes, my bad on that, I forgot about Kasumi herself. Still, no significant loss.

Maybe these topics should be named "impossible to get 8000 TMS". I think it would be less confusing for some.

And for the record, I am all for MP, I quite enjoy it. I just have a problem with people being condescending on this TMS issue (like "what's so hard, I did everything right and got over 9000 tms").

[DarkOrgasm]

RazorrX wrote...

DarkOrgasm wrote...

Your TMS is quite low actually.  The Galactic Readiness is at 100% - this is because of either Multiplayer OR iOS apps.  Single player Galactic Readiness is set to 50%.  The formula for actual EMS is simple - 

EMS = TMS * GR 

In your case 4962 * 100% = 4962

Now if you had not played multiplayer then your EMS would actually be:

4962 * 50% (GR from single player only) = 2481

So in a single player game - you would end up with earth devestated in the end and no shep breathing.

But as I said, this is where it is at now in the middle of the Quarian/Geth missions, i still have lots of game play to go before i get to the finale crapfest.

[Dorrieb]

Valo_Soren wrote...

And another thing, multi player is actually quite fun and feels like you are doing SP missions anyway from the point of view of soldiers across the galaxy. So why would the fact that the readiness you get from doing MP, helping you, be a bad thing?

Because I don't want to play MP. Why should I have to?

[Frozen83]

Prismvg wrote...

And for the record, I am all for MP, I quite enjoy it. I just have a problem with people being condescending on this TMS issue (like "what's so hard, I did everything right and got over 9000 tms").

That's nice. Some people don't want to play MP. I have enough of that in RL, thank you very much (but, that's just my personal frustration). M.

[kleindropper]

I've run two imported Sheps through (one Renegade and one Paragon) and both maxed out at around 3,800 EMS (7,600 War Assets) - I don't think I grabbed absolutely everything but was pretty close and had 100% explored assets and all Citadel missions completed. I just don't think that missing 400 War Assets is out there.