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[Occulo]

DamonD7 wrote...
Well, first thing that springs to mind is the Salarian score of 433.

You can only get the Salarian Third Fleet (133 points max) by saving the Destiny Ascension in ME1 and the Salarian Councillor in ME3. You can only get the STG Task Force (70 points max) by abandoning the Destiny Ascension in ME1 and saving the councillor.

You can't do both, save the DA and abandon it. and so you also can't get both groups.

You also only get the Salarian First Fleet (150 points) by sabotaging the genophage cure...which of course would then negatively impact massively on your Krogan score.

I said I included "the mutually-exclusive ones".

Modifié par Occulo, 02 avril 2012 - 01:13 .

[DamonD7]

Simplest solution for Bioware would be to patch it down to something like 3000 needed. Still requires a lot of work to get, but manageable and not needing a single second of MP play to get it.

Personally I love the multiplayer, but if you're going to say that it's not needed then it shouldn't be needed.

[digby69]

no and if your not carefull this topic will get removed.

I was just in the middle of a similar topic in the no spoiler section when poof it got deleted.

[ed87]

Yeah i was disappointed when i realised i had to do multiplayer to get my EMS past 3800. This is exactly the kind of thing Bioware said wouldnt happen!

[Kilshrek]

Here's the thing, because of such large variance in play styles, and because the maximum, including mutually exclusive war assets can get to a shade above 8.4k TMS, there is no real way of getting 8k TMS, without MP.

Of course, the way the post regarding the best ending was worded is clever, because there is no clear definition of a best/perfect ending in ME 3, to most they're all equally crap, but your best ending is quite subjective. So there's absolutely nothing wrong in what Bioware has said, beyond it being a very clever arse cover.

[Vaktathi]

stysiaq wrote...

Whats the point of these threads. You shoot stuff with Shepard for about 20h during SP campaign. You clearly can spend a little time in MP doing the same stuff.

Closer to ~32 hours if you do everything, a total of ~120+ through all 3 games. Not everyone enjoys or wants to play multiplayer, if you're not into 20+ minute hordemode MP games, or don't have multiplayer capabilities (e.g. no Xbox Live, etc) you shouldn't have to engage in that for what is primarily, and up until this point exclusively, single player game. That's stupid.

And yeah, looking at my playthrough, doing a pretty completionist playthrough, I got just over 3700 EMS with 50% readiness, looking over pretty much every source I can find, I'm just a few points shy of the max one can get without MP/3rd party content. That's with pretty completionist ME1/ME2 imports including all DLC.


Thankfully, given how little the ending differs and how poorly done it is, it's not as big an issue in practice as many make it out to be, but it is still very scuzzy and unless Bioware is aware of something they aren't telling us, 4K+ EMS is not possible with single player alone.

Modifié par Vaktathi, 02 avril 2012 - 01:25 .

[antony1197]

Henioo wrote...

GBJ13 wrote...

I assume this is something they'll fix with the next DLC. It's not too tough to add another 700 points of military strength.

That's what I thought, too. They planned some DLCs like taking back Omega which would grant you the rest of the EMS to hit it up to 4000. Or maybe those things were in fact in the game but were cut and that's where BW's confusion lies.

You guys are missing the point, if a person doesnt want to play multiplayer sure, but many CANT play multiplayer due to lack of internet, you cant download dlc without internet thus proving it pointless.

[antony1197]

N7Raider wrote...

What? I have almost 6000 EMS and I've only played multiplayer once my galactic readiness is only 52%.

No you dont, you have over 6000 TMS, and if you had over 6000 EMS without multiplayer you used a save editor 

[DamonD7]

Occulo wrote...
I said I included "the mutually-exclusive ones".

I don't understand.

Okay...you've got a score of 433 for the Salarians listed.

20 for Kirrahe (survive ME1, Thane survives ME2 and is spoken to in ME3)
150 for First Fleet (sabotage genophage cure)
133 for Salarian Third Fleet (save Destiny Ascension, save Salarian Councillor, get heating units3)
25 for Mordin (survive ME2, sabotage genophage cure)
35 for Salarian Special Tasks Group
70 for STG Task Force (abandon Destiny Ascension, save Salarian Councillor)

All those figures add up to your 433 figure.
But like I say, how can you both save and abandon the Destiny Ascension in ME1 for that to happen?

You could only have either 363 (save DA) or 300 (abandon DA).

And then like I say, if you sabotage the genophage cure to get the First Fleet bonus, then that knocks down the Krogan score in turn (to something like 600-odd), and so on.

[Captain Arty]

Camronnba wrote...

It is possible. I did it.

Also, 1 MP win on Bronze can boost your GR by a lot. If you have the internet, there's really no excuse not to crush a couple matches just to be safe.

Not all of us have access to a decent internet connection, nor do we want to pay for Xbox Live.

I also managed to get it without MP, but I think the Eden Prime war assets are buggy, because doing everything in exactly the same way, I wasn't able to get it.

Regardless, it's just bad game design. In every ME game, they've messed up something like this. In ME1, it was that you counldn't reassign skill points. In ME2, they screwed up the paragon/renegade system something royal, and in ME3, the reduced the alliance of the entire galaxy down to a meaningless number that has little impact on the ending, and then they tacked on a multiplier that is even more contrived. I'm not impressed.

They could have given the player control of war assets, like a minigame where you move forces around to keep the Reapers at bay between missions, and if you fail your ending is affected. Instead, it's just an annoying number that sits there.

Modifié par Captain Arty, 02 avril 2012 - 01:32 .

[Kingthlayer]

This is something I feel they should have addressed by now. It's either a mathematical oversight or a bug.

Hopefully this is something they add into their ending fix.

[Occulo]

DamonD7 wrote...

Occulo wrote...
I said I included "the mutually-exclusive ones".

I don't understand.

Okay...you've got a score of 433 for the Salarians listed.

You could only have either 363 (save DA) or 300 (abandon DA).

And then like I say, if you sabotage the genophage cure to get the First Fleet bonus, then that knocks down the Krogan score in turn (to something like 600-odd), and so on.

I knowingly included both the STG and Salarian Third Fleet's assets, two mutually-exclusive assets, together. I know you can't get them both. My point was to show that even with all the assets in the game (which you can't get in an unmodded playthrough), you can't get all the endings.

Modifié par Occulo, 02 avril 2012 - 01:31 .

[Femlob]

Occulo wrote...

DamonD7 wrote...

Occulo wrote...
I said I included "the mutually-exclusive ones".

I don't understand.

Okay...you've got a score of 433 for the Salarians listed.

You could only have either 363 (save DA) or 300 (abandon DA).

And then like I say, if you sabotage the genophage cure to get the First Fleet bonus, then that knocks down the Krogan score in turn (to something like 600-odd), and so on.

I knowingly included both the STG and Salarian Third Fleet's assets, two mutually-exclusive assets, together. I know you can't get them both. My point was to show that even with all the assets in the game (which you can't get in an unmodded playthrough), you can't get all the endings.

Correct.

As an aside, there are two assets worth 300 TMS that have been cut from the game (check the link in my signature). Curious.

Modifié par Femlob, 02 avril 2012 - 01:33 .

[Vaktathi]

DamonD7 wrote...

Occulo wrote...
I said I included "the mutually-exclusive ones".

I don't understand.

Mutually Exclusive means those that can't both be included at once.

[lynch108]

I was under the impression you could get the "best" ending in ng+ mode without having 4000 ems.

[dfstone]

I got over 4000 without multiplayer. Though I imported an ME2 save which was an import of an ME1 save. I started a fresh, non-imported character for a different class and I don't think its possible to get your EMS that high without using an import and without using multiplayer.

[Tietj]

@dfstone No, you didn't, unless your assets are bugged. Most of us use an imported character.

[Occulo]

dfstone wrote...
I got over 4000 without multiplayer. Though I imported an ME2 save which was an import of an ME1 save. I started a fresh, non-imported character for a different class and I don't think its possible to get your EMS that high without using an import and without using multiplayer.

I included assets gained only if you imported Mass Effect 1 and 2 saves.

How many war assets do you have under the big categories? That is, Alliance assets, Ex-Cerberus assets, Alien assets, et cetera. Can you add them all up?

[dfstone]

Tietj wrote...

@dfstone No, you didn't, unless your assets are bugged. Most of us use an imported character.

No I'm not bugged and I did it was barely over 4000 but I did get it and I never multiplayer so it is possible.

[Occulo]

Well, can you at least post a screenshot?

[dfstone]

Occulo wrote...

How many war assets do you have under the big categories? That is, Alliance assets, Ex-Cerberus assets, Alien assets, et cetera. Can you add them all up?

I'm not at home right now but when I do get home I'll post it.

[Tietj]

@dfstone No offense, but I don't believe you. How would you know you're not bugged?

[Kub666]

Let me just interrupt your conversation for a moment and reply to the question in the subject of this thread - about official response.

Here's a response I got from the ME official Twitter account:

"We've reported people's difficulty achieving this, though we have heard many reports of people garnering over 4k with only SP."

And here's one from some other thread (by Thomas Abram):

"That sounds really odd - I specifically recall testing something similar to this early in the new year and all the tests passed. I'm at home for the day but when I get in to work tomorrow I'll take a good hard look (if you want to follow up please do so via PM/seperate thread)."

Now, I'm still yet to see a screenshot of GR=50% and EMS>4k. Apart from the ones where somebody messed with ini files.

[dfstone]

Tietj wrote...

@dfstone No offense, but I don't believe you. How would you know you're not bugged?

Well wait for me to post it up then. 

[Dr. Megaverse]

Look regardless of how "it should be", the way it IS is that you need MP at the moment to get the "perfect" ending. So, either log on (if you can, sorry folks with no interwebz you're screwed...but then how are you reading this? O.o) and rough through a couple wins/losses.  Either that or play up till the last 5 mins and then make a new game till BW fixes the issue. If they don't then you'll just have to deal.

That's the way it is. 

Modifié par Dr. Megaverse, 02 avril 2012 - 02:07 .