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[leongecko]

Sent mine back to Amazon, not because of the ending, I havent played the game, and I wont, without my Shephard. but if a patch does happen, i dont think it will be for weeks, and I will miss the 30 day refund guarantee. Im voting with my wallet.

[Elhanan]

_symphony wrote...

No, there's only one ending, or 6 if you're very generous. But honest, is just one ending.

That sounds like a line from MP: In Search of the Holy Grail....

But as there are at least three described in detail elsewhere, the honest part does not really ring true to me; sorry. And there are vids at youtube for confirmation.

Modifié par Elhanan, 19 mars 2012 - 04:06 .

[Getorex]

MaestroX101 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

MaestroX101 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

MaestroX101 wrote...

Don't say that, cause then we'll have to hear the whole "It's not about a happy ending, it's about the ending that we deserve" speech... 

Gotcha! But what they deserve?! For some reason, padded walls and soundproofing comes to mind....

The thing with many of you people who just cannot STAND that people are unhappy and actually getting their money back (and likely to force Bioware to correct this) is you want to force YOUR prefered ending on ALL.  YOUR prefered ending is the ONLY ending.  The right one is the worst possible ending.  

Nope. 

Sorry, but if I go on a cruise and it is a fun, great cruise through the Med.  It goes well until on the last day we run aground, there's a fire onboard, many die, many are injured, I barely escape myself...99% of the cruise was great so what the hell am I doing getting all bent over that last little bit eh?  Ungrateful whiny ****** right?

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Wait. You just compared a $60 fantasy game to almost certain real life death?

You've absolutely changed my mind. I'm glad I now see things your way.

You are truly dense.  You are one of those who keeps saying "but 95% of the game was great so why let the little bit at the end ruin it for you?",  which is just another way of trying to say, "It's the journey, not the destination, that matters."

No, the nature of the destination can and does pollute the journey if the destination really sucks.  The end of a game can (and in this case did) ruin the entire experience from 1 to 2 to 3.  It totally voids replay value.  Why replay?  You've gotten the best outcome possible: to die along with most of everyone, and everything else.  Woohoo!  Replay to the same ending!

Look up metaphor for me while you ponder.

I have no need to ponder. Your argument is invalid because as I said, you just compared a video game (which realistically would cost a hell of a lot less that a cruise, mind you) to a scene from Final Destination 6: MediTERRORanean (how's that for your metaphor?).

No, I'm not dense. I'm being logical, and from a software engineer's standpoint, ethical. You're disappointed with the ending. Okay, fine. But seriously, how many games have you played where the ending was terrible, or even the entire game was terrible? Did you ask that developer for a new game? A new ending? Did you create a petition? Did you raise money? Did you compare it to a natural disaster? Probably not, but you see fit to jump on this Retake Mass Effect bandwagon. If it ruined your experience, don't play it anymore. If you bought the regular edition, and you can get your money back, then get your money back. More power to you. If you bought the collector's edition, I see no point in returning it, but hey, more power to you. But the funny thing is the only issue that everyone's complaining about isn't even an issue. Nobody's talking about the inability to import ME2 Shepard. Nobody's talking about Ghost Tali (PM me if you don't know about that). There are other things that are actually broken within the game, but everyone's complaining about something that's not broken.

Awesome Show. Great Job.

Edit: And you seriously edited your post to tell me to suck it up. Very mature.

You are upset that people are getting their money back.  You are upset that people have the GALL to be angry and express that by bailing out.  You have the gall to take a cruise ship METAPHOR (look it up for ****'s sake) about a GREAT trip for 95% of the time but with just a bit of crap at the very end as if it is a literal comparison.  Don't go full retard like that.  The ending ruined the game.  Ruined the series.  MOST people agree with that and it is fine that you don't.  Suck it up and quit whining about that reality.

[MaestroX101]

leongecko wrote...

Sent mine back to Amazon, not because of the ending, I havent played the game, and I wont, without my Shephard. but if a patch does happen, i dont think it will be for weeks, and I will miss the 30 day refund guarantee. Im voting with my wallet.

That's at least a legitimate reason to return the game. I will say you're missing out on some great gameplay, but I too am upset that my "Tiger Woods" looking Shepard doesn't import.

[MaestroX101]

Getorex wrote...

You are upset that people are getting their money back.  You are upset that people have the GALL to be angry and express that by bailing out.  You have the gall to take a cruise ship METAPHOR (look it up for ****'s sake) about a GREAT trip for 95% of the time but with just a bit of crap at the very end as if it is a literal comparison.  Don't go full retard like that.  The ending ruined the game.  Ruined the series.  MOST people agree with that and it is fine that you don't.  Suck it up and quit whining about that reality.

As I said, more power to them for getting their money back. I'm not upset. It was mainly about the collector's edition being refunded, but okay. And you were the one to make the cruise ship metaphor in the first place. Even if it was just a metaphor, you can't compare the two. If, let's say, instead of so many people dying, you were on a cruise to an unknown destination. You were promised that it would be exotic, but the most you got was Waikiki. Then that would be comparable, because if I didn't know where I was going, yet I was one of the few on the cruise to actually enjoy Waikiki, then that's similar to the situation of this $60 fantasy scifi video game. If I didn't like Waikiki, then I'd prolly be on the same boat that you are (no pun intended).

[DemGeth]

so you want bioware to focus more on casual gamers.....that's cool. definitely a big market out there for that.

[_symphony]

Elhanan wrote...

_symphony wrote...

No, there's only one ending, or 6 if you're very generous. But honest, is just one ending.

That sounds like a line from MP: In Search of the Holy Grail....

But as there are at least three described in detail elsewhere, the honest part does not really ring true to me; sorry. And there are vids at youtube for confirmation.

you don't have to believe me, just go ahead and check youtube. If you still think those are 16 different endings, well, I guess they are different in the same way snowflakes are different.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Getorex wrote...

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At least in Deus Ex the short list of endings DIFFERED.  They all sucked in different ways but they were not all the same with slightly different colors.  In fact, you got 4 possible endings in DE:HR and only one of them led to Adam Jensen's death...and his response upon having that option set before him was the 100% appropriate response of "You call that a solution?!"  

I was sold on a game that would take my decisions throughout the series into account.  I was sold a game where the ending would grow out of that.  What was delivered was a game with a single ending via 3 different entries, all labeled "die, die, or DIE".  No replay value.  Why do it again when you cannot get better than bleak?  No reward whatsoever, only punishment.

Agreed 100%. Even if Human Revolution's ending wasn't what I was anticipating, I cannot for the life of me call it stupid or OOC or anything. It was, if nothing else, seamlessly suitable to the whole scenario and did not feel contrived in the slightest.

And as you say, only one of the four possible endings led to Adam's death--justifiably so.

[Mr.House]

Remember Marauder Shields.

[mvictorine]

For a little circularity, here's an article that references this post:
http://www.gamepur.c...s-effect-3.html

[kbct]

Mr.House wrote...

Remember Marauder Shields.

HA! I had to look it up. For those that don't know, he is the last one to try to save you from the ending:



It's pretty amazing there is a article about this thread.

[kbct]

MaestroX101 wrote...

As I said, more power to them for getting their money back. I'm not upset.

I haven't returned my copy even though I purchased it at Amazon, but I have a hard time giving anyone grief for returning their copy. Those people can save a couple bucks and wait for BioWare/EA's response to this mess.

[Big Push]

I wish I hadn't bought my copy through Origin. I would take Amazon up on this offer in a heartbeat. ME3 has zero replay value to me with the endings the way they are.

[Cpt.Cadrega]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Getorex wrote...

(...)

At least in Deus Ex the short list of endings DIFFERED.  They all sucked in different ways but they were not all the same with slightly different colors.  In fact, you got 4 possible endings in DE:HR and only one of them led to Adam Jensen's death...and his response upon having that option set before him was the 100% appropriate response of "You call that a solution?!"  

I was sold on a game that would take my decisions throughout the series into account.  I was sold a game where the ending would grow out of that.  What was delivered was a game with a single ending via 3 different entries, all labeled "die, die, or DIE".  No replay value.  Why do it again when you cannot get better than bleak?  No reward whatsoever, only punishment.

Agreed 100%. Even if Human Revolution's ending wasn't what I was anticipating, I cannot for the life of me call it stupid or OOC or anything. It was, if nothing else, seamlessly suitable to the whole scenario and did not feel contrived in the slightest.

And as you say, only one of the four possible endings led to Adam's death--justifiably so.

Human Revolution also had to account for the original Deus Ex, given that it was a prequel.
And, honestly, the endings were sub-par in execution, but at least they didn't sap my willingness to play it another time.
Also, unlike ME3, HR didn't copy the three endings of Deus Ex while missing the point of them completely.
I wish I hadn't bought the Digital Version, since I could get a refund then.
Oh well, at least I still have the multiplayer and the (slim, even delusional) hope that one day Hudson and Walters will realise that an inexcusable ending that defies everything in a franchise art does not make.
If anything, ME3 is commercial art, which is art, but it's art meant to be created so that a customer is happy about it.

[King Espi]

Aryck1095 V2 wrote...

You're getting rid of the game just because of the ending? I'm not entirely satisfied with the ending either, but the other 99% percent of the game is amazing. Multiplayer could use a little work, but... I don't know of anyone bought this game for the multiplayer.

Me, I'm willing to wait for a full exspansion with an alternate ending packaged in. I figured DLC as inevitable anyway; now they can use it as a means to give us a better ending.

I agree. Mass Effect 3 became one of my favorite games..until I got to the end.

I don't regret buying the CE and I have buyers remorse almost all the time. BioWare screwed up on import faces and the ending, and I talked badly about them because of that, but the game itself is amazing. It is their first time doing multiplayer/co-op for a shooter so of course it's not going to be amazing but it's still good.

All in all, I feel my money was spent well. I just wish the ending actually came with the DLC and wasn't future DLC.

[Dormin]

If everyone starts to do this there won't be a galaxy left to save.

[Loup Blanc]

I am just going to say here that I just tried to play my second playthrough with my first Femshep 10 minutes ago.

Actually I couldn't bring myself to play past Mars and I am back to lurking BSN. I really feel that the whole enjoyment of the trilogy has been annihilated by the atrocious ending. I am beginning to think I will never be able to enjoy it again.

[Elite Midget]

SimonM72 wrote...

Lycius wrote...

Amazon is giving me a refund on my opened CE.

Sweet!

Maybe I can find another game that doesn't crush my soul to spend that $80 on.

Thats nice of them, but don't you think you perhaps should wait until the official Bioware response on the matter?.  Just saying.

*shrugs*

Why? If Bioware does change the endings he can still buy the game later for cheaper or used for an even larger discount. He loses nothing for this.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

If you're having it returned b/c you didn't like the ending then you don't deserve Amazon.

If enough ppl lose their integrity like you then the day will come when Amazon will stop being so nice.

Thanks.

[MaestroX101]

Elite Midget wrote...

SimonM72 wrote...

Lycius wrote...

Amazon is giving me a refund on my opened CE.

Sweet!

Maybe I can find another game that doesn't crush my soul to spend that $80 on.

Thats nice of them, but don't you think you perhaps should wait until the official Bioware response on the matter?.  Just saying.

*shrugs*

Why? If Bioware does change the endings he can still buy the game later for cheaper or used for an even larger discount. He loses nothing for this.

OP returned the CE though. Sure, he has the extra content, but lithograph, artbook, and steelbook case (y'know, the collection part) is returned.

[daguest]

I will keep the CE, to show to my kids (when I got some) how something they like for years, may suddenly turn into an horrible goo in less than 5minutes. It's a hard but interesting lesson about many things in life. Even about life itself.

[kbct]

JL81 wrote...

I am just going to say here that I just tried to play my second playthrough with my first Femshep 10 minutes ago.

Actually I couldn't bring myself to play past Mars and I am back to lurking BSN. I really feel that the whole enjoyment of the trilogy has been annihilated by the atrocious ending. I am beginning to think I will never be able to enjoy it again.

The reviews everywhere reflect your sentiments. The entire trilogy is ruined. That is a major shame.

[LegatoSkyheart]

I really hate the ending. I really want to return all of my Mass Effect Games.....but something just tells me that I shouldn't.
It's my Inner Gamer. I know the ending sucks, but I can't bring myself to return them, but the offer is really cool.

[DemGeth]

lol...anything in this 12 pages confirming this story?