It's a shame this guy quit BW =(
DA:O Lead Designer Comments on ME3 Ending Debacle
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Legend78731
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#202
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:26
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Ultimately entertainment like games, are there to entertain...
#203
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:27
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In absolutely no way did I go into ME3 thinking Shep was going to come out alive so a happy ending was never a requirement.
However I did expect SOMETHING I did in at least 1 of the 3 role playing games to have some sort of effect on the ending.
Unlocking the ability to pick from 1 of 3 (almost identical) endings based on some arbitrary army value which is decided by only things you do in the final game was not what anyone expected.
Disappointed I was.
However I did expect SOMETHING I did in at least 1 of the 3 role playing games to have some sort of effect on the ending.
Unlocking the ability to pick from 1 of 3 (almost identical) endings based on some arbitrary army value which is decided by only things you do in the final game was not what anyone expected.
Disappointed I was.
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#204
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:28
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Luc0s wrote...
Now that even former BioWare writers are siding with us, BioWare HAS to listen to us, right... right... RIGHT?
Well - I suspect there's a reason he's former, so ..... odds are against it
#205
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:29
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He knows what he's talking about.
#206
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:29
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Now thats the old bioware man right there.
#207
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:30
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ace6633 wrote...
Deviant Seraph wrote...
ace6633 wrote...
Ah old school Bioware how I miss thee... Another thing DA:O did even though it still had an ending that rang of tragic heroism was gave an Epilogue. If ME3 had given me that bunch of paragraphs characterizing how my actions shaped the galaxy and what the fate of each of my companions was I think that would have made me accepting of the ending. I wouldn't have minded it they kept their mysteries, their ruined mass relays and their star child. The depth and closure those epilogues added to DA:O was actually astounding and what kind of effort did they take? Probably just some imaginative writers and some extra coding.
How hard would it be for them to give us at least that?
Especially if you romance Alistair and take him with you to the final battle
Exactly! and apart from that possibility I remember reading the reaction of Leiliana to my wardens death and feeling very somber at those implications.
Or if you romanced Morrigan. I remember replaying the game just to get the awesome bit of text where it says "One night the Warden felt as if Morrigan was thinking about him over a great distance." It was just a sentence, and it carried weight. I still think about that ending.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:30
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Wow no wonder I love DA:O so much this guy knows what he is doing. Is he still working on games somewhere else? I think I want to play whatever he puts out.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:30
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Only problem with that is that BioWare now want to do action/hollywood film instead of rpg. Thus making his argument true and irrelevant in many way.
#211
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:31
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My entire point.
Now let's see IGN, Destructoid and Kotaku attack him.
Now let's see IGN, Destructoid and Kotaku attack him.
#212
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:31
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Seriously DA:O had a nice scene at the end where I killed the Arch Demon and then a few pictures and text... the ending of ME3 was much better then that. I was much more put off from that slideshow and think they should have left it out too.
Both games are brilliant in itself, but the ending isn't that good in DA:O either.
Both games are brilliant in itself, but the ending isn't that good in DA:O either.
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#213
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:31
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Oh yea and bumps for DA:O.
All my thumbs up for this guy.
All my thumbs up for this guy.
#214
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:31
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DarkSpider88 wrote...
Wow no wonder I love DA:O so much this guy knows what he is doing. Is he still working on games somewhere else? I think I want to play whatever he puts out.
He quit to work on his writing if I'm not mistaken, so good luck with that.
#215
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:31
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DarkSpider88 wrote...
Wow no wonder I love DA:O so much this guy knows what he is doing. Is he still working on games somewhere else? I think I want to play whatever he puts out.
Same if he ever makes a game I will buy it.
#216
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:31
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guyfromprague wrote...
My entire point.
Now let's see IGN, Destructoid and Kotaku attack him.
QFT
#217
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:32
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Yeah man, DA:O had a really, really satisfying ending. You had the option of heroic sacrifice, you had the option of a happy parade. Either way, the game felt complete.
#218
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:32
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Speculation everywhere!"S1at3 wrote...
Mass Effect 3 is the end of Sheppard's story.... or is it?
Nobody knows!
#219
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:32
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Bigdoser wrote...
Its the same reason why I can keep playing fallout NV since it follows what brent says its not a bioware game but the ending made me feel dam awesome hell you don't actually even need to fight the final boss in NV plus the game shows you how your choices affected groups, companions and locations.
New Vegas is, in my humble opinion, the best RPG ever made. No other game captures consequences for every little thing you do like that game. It captured what made 1 and 2 classics and brought it today's tech. 3 can suck my balls though
#220
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:32
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He nailed it. This is the talent that Bioware's lost? Would think they'd have done anything to keep him.
#221
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:33
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I'll admit I didn't care for slideshow endings like DAO. But as far as impact and general 'feeling' of the ending, DAO is one of bioware's best. It offers a happy ending with some sacrifice, and a good tragic triumphant ending. Everyone, for the most part, felt that the endings fit with the tone of the game.
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Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:34
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guyfromprague wrote...
My entire point.
Now let's see IGN, Destructoid and Kotaku attack him.
Well - lets hope they're aware of his blog piece to begin with, but if it conflicts with their opinion they'll just ignore it.
#224
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:35
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Legend78731 wrote...
2. End on a positive note. This is really important for video games...life in general is full of s****y stuff happening all the time. When I invest a hundred hours into a game I need to walk away feeling like a hero.
Why wasn't this guy put in charge of ME3???
#225
Posté 17 mars 2012 - 12:35
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Bigdoser wrote...
Its the same reason why I can keep playing fallout NV since it follows what brent says its not a bioware game but the ending made me feel dam awesome hell you don't actually even need to fight the final boss in NV plus the game shows you how your choices affected groups, companions and locations.
I'd actually be fairly satisfied with a NV-style denouement for ME3. Have a narrator or someone describe what happens to the various factions after the defeat of the Reapers, the descriptions reflecting your own decisions.
