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[Getorex]

iAlex59 wrote...

I would be banned writing this post how I'd want to.

Basically he says we're sitting it out, we always listened to you (RPG Elements in Mass Effect 3 huh? class Weapon restrictions are now completely gone, no inventory and you call upgrading weapons "RPG element"?), Mass Effect is a team effort, the press liked it (Oh ****, the referenced press probably never played ME1 or ME2)

Please go **** yourself and **** Origins ****.

Heh.  The "press" liked Bush and Cheney and the Iraq war, etc.  Let's go with what the press likes.  Always leads to a good place.

[Carcharoth42]

I think I understand. You want us to give you money for meaningless content and you don't care about our opinions because we're not important. Thanks for clearing that up, Casey.

[JamesYHT]

nothing on the point.....

[Pyewacket]

Getorex wrote...

Littledoom wrote...

So nothing is going to change, we are stuck with this pile off stinking dog **** you call a end? If nothing change I sure as hell not going to buy any DLC for ME3, don't see the point, the game have 0 replay value to me and if I hear a BW employee say it's the journey thats important not the destination I will give them a brick wall to the face one brick at the time.

It's so damn sad as the game is good but the end destroyed it together with the whole trilogy and the ME universe. If BW would announced a new game in the same universe I would not give it a second thought as it is now.

No, it's also pretty much the destination that matters too. 

Yeah, gotta say, the destination has a lot going for it.  I'm not going to enjoy my walk to the gallows even if the path is bordered by fragrant flowers.  Why?  BECAUSE THERE'S A GALLOWS RIGHT THERE AT THE END.

Oh, no worries though!  You get to decide what they do with your body.  Drop it at the bottom of a lake, cremation, or bury it under the lawn.

[Getorex]

Dolphin FFetus wrote...

Its over, you might as well mourn for Mass Effect. Everyone on the internet, this forum, other boards, etc etc could all work on a bullet point list of why the ending is bad but gabe or tycho would say the ending was fine and we'd just get Omega dlc or some multiplayer pack. Its seriously over. This is damage control, nothing more. You've been trolled by a man who has made enough sells to get away with it.

You know what you do to show him your angry? Don't buy the omega dlc or anything else. Its highly cathartic for us to voice our opinions, outrage, disapointment and ideas but at the end of the day it is nothing but our very own catharsis. Your opinion doesn't matter. I'm just saying this because in 5-7 months Bioware will release some war assets or maybe the omega dlc and the same people who complained will go buy that begrudginly. Seriously, don't do that. That's how you show the man you're angry, that his ending is awful.

Move on, if you haven't already, but don't forget.

Well, theres as much point to playing an "Omega DLC" as there is to giving the Quarians their homeworld back and peace with the geth.  Shortly afterward the mass relays are blown to hell, destroying the worlds and life on those worlds (including Omega which is right there in a mass relay system)  when you pick a color, any color. 

Why take Omega from cerberus for Aria when she and everyone else on Omega will shortly thereafter be cinders? 

Hence, DLC is worthless at this point.

[iAlex59]

JamesYHT wrote...

nothing on the point.....

To quote reddit:
Casey's indoctrination is now complete. EA has assumed direct control.

Modifié par iAlex59, 17 mars 2012 - 03:18 .

[hanshotfirs]

Gotta give credit: at least we've heard something. It seems to me that they have some ideas on future DLC/Bonus content, and want to make it based on what we want to see.

Kinda cool thought... but it's being done kind of wrong... don't you think they should had said "Hey, here's this great game coming out, it's all based on your choices, we have the game built up until point X, from there... you tell us what you want, we'll make it happen!"

At least, that's what I took from this post.

Anyways, thankful we heard something official! Can't wait a full year for the end of the story... but I've been patient with Bioware up til now... I can afford a little while longer.

:-)

[SeikoCreamy]

So What really happened with the ending of ME3?  Did Bioware run out of money? Or worse, inspiration?  I seem to recall a similar lacklustre ending in Deus Ex: Human Revolution.  The "Choose your meaningless cut scene" format  didn't do that game any favours and it is definately not fit for the ME series.  Oh come on.  

[Getorex]

Pyewacket wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Littledoom wrote...

So nothing is going to change, we are stuck with this pile off stinking dog **** you call a end? If nothing change I sure as hell not going to buy any DLC for ME3, don't see the point, the game have 0 replay value to me and if I hear a BW employee say it's the journey thats important not the destination I will give them a brick wall to the face one brick at the time.

It's so damn sad as the game is good but the end destroyed it together with the whole trilogy and the ME universe. If BW would announced a new game in the same universe I would not give it a second thought as it is now.

No, it's also pretty much the destination that matters too. 

Yeah, gotta say, the destination has a lot going for it.  I'm not going to enjoy my walk to the gallows even if the path is bordered by fragrant flowers.  Why?  BECAUSE THERE'S A GALLOWS RIGHT THERE AT THE END.

Oh, no worries though!  You get to decide what they do with your body.  Drop it at the bottom of a lake, cremation, or bury it under the lawn.

Thank you.  That makes it much better, but can I select having my body eaten by hungry wolves?

[Kitteh303]

I'm kind of astonished at peoples' reactions to his statement. It's a press release thing, of course it's going to be vague.

I'll be damned if we aren't the most ungrateful, belligerent fanbase on the planet.

[Pyewacket]

Getorex wrote...

Pyewacket wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Littledoom wrote...

So nothing is going to change, we are stuck with this pile off stinking dog **** you call a end? If nothing change I sure as hell not going to buy any DLC for ME3, don't see the point, the game have 0 replay value to me and if I hear a BW employee say it's the journey thats important not the destination I will give them a brick wall to the face one brick at the time.

It's so damn sad as the game is good but the end destroyed it together with the whole trilogy and the ME universe. If BW would announced a new game in the same universe I would not give it a second thought as it is now.

No, it's also pretty much the destination that matters too. 

Yeah, gotta say, the destination has a lot going for it.  I'm not going to enjoy my walk to the gallows even if the path is bordered by fragrant flowers.  Why?  BECAUSE THERE'S A GALLOWS RIGHT THERE AT THE END.

Oh, no worries though!  You get to decide what they do with your body.  Drop it at the bottom of a lake, cremation, or bury it under the lawn.

Thank you.  That makes it much better, but can I select having my body eaten by hungry wolves?

Hey now, don't go getting all entitled!

[Getorex]

SeikoCreamy wrote...

So What really happened with the ending of ME3?  Did Bioware run out of money? Or worse, inspiration?  I seem to recall a similar lacklustre ending in Deus Ex: Human Revolution.  The "Choose your meaningless cut scene" format  didn't do that game any favours and it is definately not fit for the ME series.  Oh come on.  

Those endings were better than ME3's in that they were all actually functionally different from each other.  Sure, if you thought about what the AI said each ending entailed, they didn't really make sense, but they were distinct and you actually survived 3 out of 4 of them...and there WAS the extra ending (that 4th one: Adam Jenson: "You call that a solution!" very much like the ONE ending offered up in ME3.  Suicide).

[VinHikaru]

While I appreciate Casey's attempt to give fans some reply, I don't think the response really addressed the issues directly. It's interesting to see so many stickied threads like this one and the thread concerning From Ashes not being on the disc....it looks like Bioware has been playing a lot of damage control lately.

[Craigonator]

Kitteh303 wrote...

I'm kind of astonished at peoples' reactions to his statement. It's a press release thing, of course it's going to be vague.

I'll be damned if we aren't the most ungrateful, belligerent fanbase on the planet.

I believe that most of the fan base is genuinely worried to see something wonderful such as Mass Effect go straight down the tubes.  I see it like a parent protecting it's child.  We all nurtured and loved Mass Effect for Years and it is an instinctive response to attack those that we see as harming it.  (I am not kidding when I say that)   We are lashing out in the only effective manner we know to protect what we love.  In this case an entierly new universe filled with what was once promising lore.

[Kitteh303]

Craigonator wrote...

Kitteh303 wrote...

I'm kind of astonished at peoples' reactions to his statement. It's a press release thing, of course it's going to be vague.

I'll be damned if we aren't the most ungrateful, belligerent fanbase on the planet.

I believe that most of the fan base is genuinely worried to see something wonderful such as Mass Effect go straight down the tubes.  I see it like a parent protecting it's child.  We all nurtured and loved Mass Effect for Years and it is an instinctive response to attack those that we see as harming it.  (I am not kidding when I say that)   We are lashing out in the only effective manner we know to protect what we love.  In this case an entierly new universe filled with what was once promising lore.

I want change as much as the next person, but I wish we could be civil. 

[devil_foetus]

For those unhappy with the conclusion there is no motivation to buy any further content.

[Savber100]

So there we go... Casey Hudson acknowledges the movement,

The question is what they'll do now. >.>

[Demodog35]

Sigh, this response from Casey Hudson reminds me so much of BioWare's response to the fps problems and other issues with TOR. Look, we are your fans. We want to trust you. We want to respect you. We want you to deliver on the promises you make about your game(s). What we actually get is PR double speak. Not owning the mistake(s) or worse, in some cases out right blaming the customer for the problems they are having with your game(s) to blatent misadvertising what content is in said game(s).

Trust and Respect are earned. Good will is earned. Not to be crass, but in many ways BioWare your bank balance in this regard is sitting at 0 with large portions of your fanbase. The ball is squarely in your court. Actions, not a PR statement that says exactly nothing, are what's going to earn the trust, loyalty and respect of your fans back.

[Drummernate]

So does this mean you are adding the Geth in multi-player?!??! Finally!?!?!?

Community - WANT!

Modifié par Drummernate, 17 mars 2012 - 03:26 .

[London]

Thank you for listening. I would like an ending where I retire with my love interest. That is all.

[Craigonator]

This is probably as civil as it gets in a heated argument such as this. I agree with you that it is just a press release and that this is standard. But people are worried that this means nothing will get done and it is over. Thus such a negative response to what he wrote.
I see it as a disarming attempt to try and calm everyone down that backfired. There are also people who are just finishing the game and are experiencing what I did which was rage at the ending. We will have more and more people finishing the game soon so there will be more anger to varying extents.

I appreciate you trying to be civil in this. It is pretty tough for most people to calm down enough to post properly. I know, it took me a long time and I still feel upset about it.

-Props to Casey for putting out a press release. But I got my eye on you and your vague disarming attempts.

[LombaxWarrior]

I'm done with bioware I'm just done they screwed up this is the only game franchise that made me feel like every choice I made mattered. I actually cried I have never felt so close to characters and cared about them the ending just irks me

[Getorex]

Craigonator wrote...

Kitteh303 wrote...

I'm kind of astonished at peoples' reactions to his statement. It's a press release thing, of course it's going to be vague.

I'll be damned if we aren't the most ungrateful, belligerent fanbase on the planet.

I believe that most of the fan base is genuinely worried to see something wonderful such as Mass Effect go straight down the tubes.  I see it like a parent protecting it's child.  We all nurtured and loved Mass Effect for Years and it is an instinctive response to attack those that we see as harming it.  (I am not kidding when I say that)   We are lashing out in the only effective manner we know to protect what we love.  In this case an entierly new universe filled with what was once promising lore.

The situation is completely understandable.  I played ME1 six times (or more...I don't recall).  I played ME2 eight times.  I had 4 Shepards ready to import into ME3 and was thinking of playing 1, 2, and 3 in one long run too.  I imported and ran my favorite Shepard into ME3 and played it...now there's no motivation, no point, to running any of the others.  Why?  I know what happens to him NO MATTER WHAT.  I cannot change that ending with a different Shepard making different choices.  I have now no desire whatsoever to play 1 or 2 either.  This killed more than enjoyment for this one game.  This killed a lot more than that.  My enthusiasm for the movie, my desire to look for more books or EVER re-read the extant books.  It is all now "Meh".

That same effect has hit a LOT of people.  It is very easy to understand the anger and why it wont go away. 

I don't care for the movie because I know - I KNOW - how it ends...unless they go and give the movie some handful of years hence an ending that SHOULD have been included in the series of endings for ME3.  I wanted my Shepard alive and kicking at the end.  I wanted his LI alive and kicking.  I wanted that option.  I also wanted the option for either or neither to be so.  We got the squat.  We got spoon-fed an LCD dream of total annihilation.  No hope, no happiness, no sense of anything great about the ME universe continuiing.  Sterile and dead.

[LinkSnake1016]

Did anyone notice the word "some" fans?

[Getorex]

LinkSnake1016 wrote...

Did anyone notice the word "some" fans?

Oh yes, absolutely.

I think he meant "most" (as in 90+%) but misspoke.