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[stcalvin13]

Here's our feedback. The content should be a new ending. Or more options at the end. Nothing else matters.

[stcalvin13]

Also, if you're not gonna change it tell us. I've got games to sell.

[willy_satts]

 How about some respect for the guys who put so much time into making this game series that has obviously made such an impact on you all.you didnt like the ending,get over it.alot more people did and respect bioware for all the hard work and the most interesting sci fi universe,in my eyes,ever created!They dont deserve all the hate and abuse from alot of you.it just shows how disrespectful,childish and ungrateful some people can be.In my opinion bioware have made a series i will keep going back to and the only thing im sad about is that im going to have to wait a couple years for the next mass effect game bioware you guys rock and thank you!!

[Lestatman]

This feel like the typical Bioware PR system in full flight. Wouldn't suprise me if they release a armor/wep dlc next week and hope the outcry dies down. I genuinely don't think, either they don't care or to ego, are ever going to give us a better ending dlc. Who knows maybe I'll be wrong but the pattern seems the same from them time and time again.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

After confirming nothing will be done to the endings.Bioware lost alot Fan Assets , this could hurt Bioware when they decide to come out with spin off's or ME4.

That's the way I see it , because I don't plan on buying any more ME titles unless convinced otherwise after the game has been released.

[shin-zan]

It sounds like they don't even understand why the endings are utter rubbish and actually seem happy with their work. The way this reads, they aren't bad because the game got rushed or things got left out for DLC, they actually intended them like this and thought it's a good ending for the trilogy... Disappointed...

Bittersweet endings are alright but it shouldn't be the only option, and I'm struggling to find any sweet in the ones we got at all. They are nearly identical, devaluate the sacrifices and choices thorough the series, and create more questions than they answer.

"Lots of speculation for Everyone!" indeed.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

willy_satts wrote...

 How about some respect for the guys who put so much time into making this game series that has obviously made such an impact on you all.you didnt like the ending,get over it.alot more people did and respect bioware for all the hard work and the most interesting sci fi universe,in my eyes,ever created!They dont deserve all the hate and abuse from alot of you.it just shows how disrespectful,childish and ungrateful some people can be.In my opinion bioware have made a series i will keep going back to and the only thing im sad about is that im going to have to wait a couple years for the next mass effect game bioware you guys rock and thank you!!

Respectful of what they have done , but that doesn't mean they can do no wrong and I should just buy more games because they would like that.

[Irish286]

Yea the endings are all bleak but its the abrupt end that annoyed me. I wouldn't be half as miffed if they would have just added an epilogue to show how our choices effected the galaxy. Something like they did in the original dragon age, maybe narrated by Hackett or Anderson?

[Embrosil]

Well, back to ME1 and I will pretend ME2 and 3 never existed and reapers just run out of energy and died in the deep space after I killed Sovereign. And a lesson to the future? Do not bother with Bioware products. Simple as that.

[Edje Edgar]

"We always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending—to do otherwise would betray the agonizing decisions Shepard had to make along the way.  Still, we wanted to give players the chance to experience an inspiring and uplifting ending; in a story where you face a hopeless struggle for basic survival, we see the final moments and imagery as offering victory and hope in the context of sacrifice and reflection."

How is Mass Effect a dark game? How is being able to safe everyone and everything, everytime preparing us for a bittersweet ending? Oh wait, Ashley or Kaiden died in ME1. By that logic Sauron should've burned down Middle Earth and killed Frodo before being defeated because Boromir died in FOTR.

Well thanks for your wise lessons of life. Needed this wake up call. It's not like we have the eight o clock news to tell us depressing things happen in life, that's what we got you guys for.

[Headrusher]

HOLD THE LINE!

[RayVelocity]

willy_satts wrote...

 How about some respect for the guys who put so much time into making this game series that has obviously made such an impact on you all.you didnt like the ending,get over it.alot more people did and respect bioware for all the hard work and the most interesting sci fi universe,in my eyes,ever created!They dont deserve all the hate and abuse from alot of you.it just shows how disrespectful,childish and ungrateful some people can be.In my opinion bioware have made a series i will keep going back to and the only thing im sad about is that im going to have to wait a couple years for the next mass effect game bioware you guys rock and thank you!!

I didn't see alot more people love this ending. At least  I didn't see them from fans.
If a game ending need tobe get overed,.Than where is the entertainment function?

[jarrettwold]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...
Respectful of what they have done , but that doesn't mean they can do no wrong and I should just buy more games because they would like that.

I honestly don't see anyone from Bioware saying anything like that.  I think they would like it if you purchased future games, not that there's some moral obligation to.

I haven't seen anyone from Bioware claiming perfection with the series either.  They're happy and proud of it, and that's where a chunk of fans differ.  They're literally saying that they do want to hear why they differ.  I'm saying, hopefully, that while it's raw and visceral feelings about a creative work, that we ditch the vulgarity and direct personal attacks.  

But, definitely not seeing 'we can do no wrong we are bioware' even remotely telegraphed from any of them.

Modifié par jarrettwold, 17 mars 2012 - 08:13 .

[Kaneiac828]

How hard is it to give an answer along the lines of...

"We're going to change it." or "We are not." ?

I appreciate the sentiment, but a PR speech isn't what we wanted.

Modifié par Kaneiac828, 17 mars 2012 - 08:14 .

[DeathAssemblage]

willy_satts wrote...

 How about some respect for the guys who put so much time into making this game series that has obviously made such an impact on you all.you didnt like the ending,get over it.alot more people did and respect bioware for all the hard work and the most interesting sci fi universe,in my eyes,ever created!They dont deserve all the hate and abuse from alot of you.it just shows how disrespectful,childish and ungrateful some people can be.In my opinion bioware have made a series i will keep going back to and the only thing im sad about is that im going to have to wait a couple years for the next mass effect game bioware you guys rock and thank you!!

A few things that I'd like to point out about your post: firstly, I have seen very little evidence that "alot (sic) more people did" like the ending than did not.  Clearly, if it's been raised so frequently on these forums and elsewhere (here's looking at you, r/masseffect), then the number of people dissatisfied is not as insignificant as you seem to believe.

Second, if I paid for something, then I have no need to be grateful to its creators.  Rather, they should be grateful to me for giving them my money for their product.  This is the way relations between producers and consumers work.  If you're stating that we should side with the company rather than our fellow customers, then I'd like to take a chance to reacquaint you with how that outlook worked out for Paul Christoforo.

As for my own feelings on Casey Hudson's statement, I believe that this will be my last time posting on a Bioware site, though given that I've not posted very much beforehand I can't imagine I will miss it much, or indeed be missed much.  I'm not entirely sure what's happened to Bioware.  There was a time when I would gladly fork over my money for anything they'd made.  Indeed, I've played literally every Bioware game from Baldur's Gate right up until Mass Effect 3.  It's only been since Dragon Age 2 that I've started to become disillusioned with what had once been a company I felt deep admiration for.

Even so, I still eagerly awaited Mass Effect 3.  I played through it over my weekend from work, which actually falls midway through the week - plenty of time to enjoy the game right after its release.  I found myself enthralled, until the ending.  My problem wasn't that it was a particularly bleak ending: in fact, thematically that would fit with the rest of the game.  The problem is, this was presented in a way that created multiple very glaring plot holes, all of which have been discussed elsewhere on this site and can't be addressed without bringing spoilers into things.

I was rather upset, as you've likely figured out from my post already.  But everything I'd seen online gave me hope that this would be rectified in a DLC of some sort.  I still was eagerly hoping for that, right up until Casey Hudson's announcement.

Certainly he doesn't state that DLC won't change the ending.  Neither does he state much else that we didn't already know.  My problem with his statement was, instead, that he has simply condescended to all of us, the people who pay his salary, in such a glaring and inexcusable manner that it makes me sick to think about giving another dollar to Bioware.  His clear and outright lies about the ending have already been well documented, and now he makes a statement to us to try and gloss that over and shut us all up till they can sell us more stuff?  This is a horrible, horrible way to run a company, especially one which claims to pride itself on having such close relations with its games' fans.

Bioware: it's been a great run.  I loved you guys, really I did.  But somewhere along the line, you changed.  It wasn't even EA buying you, I don't think.  I mean, Dragon Age: Origins came out after you were bought, and that game was positively incredible.  Hell, I could even live with games like Dragon Age II, if not particularly fall in love with them as much as I did your older stuff.  But this arrogant, condescending attitude towards those of us who cared about what you were making more than just about anyone?  That's it, for me.

[kooesa]

...okay.
so, I've bought every DLC for ME1&2. all of it. the FIRST DLC that I'll buy for ME3 is a new ending. until i can buy that DLC, my money stays in my wallet. I understand that the worst ending is everything dies. I can understand and appreciate that. I can understand the middle ending the threat is gone, maybe even shepard dieing. I can live with that too. but for the best ending? my Shepard worked damn hard for the galaxy, at least let him enjoy the fruits of his labor with his LI. is that really to much to ask?

EDIT: two/too... same difference.

Modifié par kooesa, 17 mars 2012 - 08:15 .

[jarrettwold]

DeathAssemblage wrote...
Certainly he doesn't state that DLC won't change the ending.  Neither does he state much else that we didn't already know.  My problem with his statement was, instead, that he has simply condescended to all of us [...] in such a glaring and inexcusable manner [...]  and now he makes a statement to us to try and gloss that over and shut us all up till they can sell us more stuff? 

I kind of snipped here and there out of your comment.  I don't think he's condescending at all in that response.  There's an explanation, a wariness that he gets there's anger out there, and a desire to be careful in his response but... It's pretty clear that he's not making any attempt to shut anyone up, by the last bit of this quote

" Over the course of the series, Mass Effect has been a shared experience between the development team and our fans—not just a shared experience in playing the games, but in designing and developing them. [...]  Your feedback has always mattered.  Mass Effect is a collaboration between developers and players, and we continue to listen.  " 

Neither is Bioware or even EA as a whole trying to shut people up.  I think the forums staying open and unlocked are a pretty clear indicator of that.  The @masseffect twitter feed is probably the most responsive and respectful twitter feed I've seen out of any company.  That thing chugs along 24 hours a day.  So out of all the accusations flying I don't see anyone trying to shut anyone up.

Modifié par jarrettwold, 17 mars 2012 - 08:29 .

[lastforone]

We don't care what new york times or any other BS criticism said. That's just one person's opinion, and almost everyone think the ending was BS. There are many unhappy things in ME3 compare to previous series. However, we all know having good ending can fix this.

Make it better plz. Don't make us to lose faith on BioWare. Make expension pack, just like Awakening if it requires for better ending.

Modifié par lastforone, 17 mars 2012 - 08:32 .

[Exeider]

I just have one question to Mr. Hudson. "How do you expect to EVER be able to revisit the Mass Effect universe, in another game, or an MMO, or anything of the like, withOUT the Mass Relays? Long considered even by the reapers as the most important technology ever devised, without which galactic civilization itself would not exist. and the Mass Effect universe as we know it has ceased to exist."

-Æ

[jarrettwold]

kooesa wrote...
My Shepard worked damn hard for the galaxy, at least let him enjoy the fruits of his labor with his LI. is that really to much to ask?

You know what caught me after my playthrough?  I felt responsible for my characters and the decisions they made. I've never had a video game do that.  If you really look at the comments coming in enraged and otherwise, it's seems nearly universal that people cared, really really cared about their characters, their decisions and the impact on the universe.  I think at least that rather astounding thing is sneaking by just about everyone.  For a game to do that and without me or a lot of people noticing it during play?  Impressive. 

I mean independent of the ending, am I right here?

Modifié par jarrettwold, 17 mars 2012 - 08:41 .

[Kandid001]

So I shouldn't buy the game yet? Thanks for the update.

[Zannana]

I was fully prepared for a sad ending. It made sense and I accepted it as such. But I hoped to have closure. Just an epilogue outlining what happened to earth and my companions after the choice in the end would have been enough for me. At first glance the end was just telling me that Bioware was holding out on some things to use for the next installments in the ME universe.

I dont know if I had misread some of the dev comments before ME3 went on sale, but I thought they had promised resolution and answers by the end of the game.

Much like most people I LOVED ME3 up to the last few minutes. So,I don't see why anyone will be motivated to play a dlc prior to the end as things stand. Anything you do in a pre ending dlc will not really matter.

What I dread is that Bioware will focus on the multiplayer now, as it may bring them money and completely forget about us.

[Demon Velsper]

1. For a discussion, you need to actually say something, not just ramble a lot of words.

2. The ending (there's no s to be had) is not bittersweet, it's stupid. There's is a difference, if you don't see it then the result is not a surprise.

3. You promised us different endings and a conclusion to the story, you offer neither. You give us one conclusion that can't be changed aside from the color of the space magic. You have failed.

Modifié par Demon Velsper, 17 mars 2012 - 09:03 .

[pipsfootyeye]

will be more...

isn't that enough for people?

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Endings still don't make sense, and they're still almost exactly the same.