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[windkayak]

LOOL the answer is so easy http://en.wikipedia...._Bill_of_Rights

The Right to Be InformedThis right states that businesses should always provide consumers with enough appropriate information to make intelligent and informed product choices. Product information provided by a business should always be complete and truthful. Aiming to achieve protection against misleading information in the areas of financing, advertising, labeling, and packaging, the right to be informed is protected by several pieces of legislation passed between 1960 and 1980.

So.. where are the other endings?..Multiplayer importance......... i think the list goes on http://social.biowar.../index/10084349

Said i was buying the game on Tuesday,scratch that,i'll buy Capcom's Resident evil

Modifié par windkayak, 18 mars 2012 - 03:19 .

[catelee2u]

Babe Mause wrote...

We always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending.
I still want to know why the ending keeps being called bittersweet by developers.I really would like to know what part of the ending should be considered sweet. The bitter parts I get. There were lots of them. But where's my sweet part? 

This is how I see it. It's bitter because of the sacrifice that has to be made but the sweetness comes in seeing the future of the people on the planet after and the fact that they are going to continue and survive and although things aren't perfect there is hope and there are no more reapers to mess up another cycle (either through abscence or control) so we are all free to live the next cycle without any threat whatsoever so all the hard work has been worth it.

Although I am satisfied and happy with the end as it stands currently I am a fan of indoctrination theory and think that would satisfy a lot of people. I don't know if that would tie in with any current plans or developments that Bioware/EA have though and whether it would fit with any DLC's or ME4 planned.

The more I think about it the more beautiful the current ending seems and I wish more people could see it the way I do but I respect that everyone has their own opinions and way of seeing things.

Modifié par catelee2u, 18 mars 2012 - 03:32 .

[windkayak]

catelee2u wrote...

Babe Mause wrote...

We always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending.
I still want to know why the ending keeps being called bittersweet by developers.I really would like to know what part of the ending should be considered sweet. The bitter parts I get. There were lots of them. But where's my sweet part? 

This is how I see it. It's bitter because of the sacrifice that has to be made but the sweetness comes in seeing the future of the people on the planet after and the fact that they are going to continue and survive and although things aren't perfect there is hope and there are no more reapers to mess up another cycle (either through abscence or control) so we are all free to live the next cycle without any threat whatsoever so all the hard work has been worth it.

Although I am satisfied and happy with the end as it stands currently I am a fan of indoctrination theory and think that would satisfy a lot of people. I don't know if that would tie in with any current plans or developments that Bioware/EA have though and whether it would fit with any DLC's or ME4 planned.

The more I think about it the more beautiful the current ending seems and I wish more people could see it the way I do but I respect that everyone has their own opinions and way of seeing things.

:crying:you lost it sis

[nikola8]

Everyone who says there are plot holes in the ending needs to realize that the same people who created the universe in the first place are the ones who wrote the ending (minus Karpyshyn). They have the authority to make the ending how ever they want and it is canon in the ME universe. That said, there ARE things in the ending that are left out (not plot holes, but rather the ending leads to some questions). Obviously the writers know the answers to those questions. They can fill in the gaps and explain the ending perfectly, and it would be free from plot holes or impossibilities and everyone would understand. There is a reason they haven't done that- they want people to debate it and even for people to get mad about it. This whole thing is generating publicity and, as they say, "any publicity is good publicity." I would not be surprised in a few months if, after this initial fire has died down, they release a statement, a book, or some DLC that explains everything. Right now, however, they are just basking in the fact that some people are getting really mad and some people are adamantly defending the ending.

I've heard the phrase "damage control" in relation to Bioware's reaction to this game. That couldn't be further from the truth. I have read that the design team all did between 40-120 playthroughs of the game during the debugging and development phase. They knew the ending they were presenting, but they knew it in light of information they have yet to give us. For those who like the ending, I'm sure you'll like it more when they explain more. For those who didn't, don't get mad- Bioware is feeding off this fire that the ending is causing, and I'm sure they'll offer more explanation in due time.

[Funkier_Than_Thou]

tuzem2 wrote...

Funkier_Than_Thou wrote...

I think the citadel and the catalyst can function like deus ex machina that could revive Sheperd in an alternate dimension. Liara and Edi mentioned that there could be a bubble wherein mass effect engines and their law of physics could exist in. So the possibility of an alternate universe adventure for our sheperd exists. Imagine a universe where sheperd died in Eden Prime and Saren suceeded with his plans because there was no sheperd to stop him. Then our sheperd gets catapulted in that universe.

That will render the current story useless...

I didn't say it was a good idea.   I am just saying that there are lots of ways the ME3 ending could work but I would hold off giving up on the series until I see what's next for the franchise. I am still looking forward for a DLC with Aria in it and retaking Omega... I hope Bioware has an Ace up their sleeve... I'm waiting to be pleasantly surprised...

[hchadw]

Blc949 wrote...

I see a lot of people saying that since 99% of the game is awesome, we should shut up. If my body was 99% awesome, if the 1% failing is my heart I'm still useless and dead.

its sort of what they have done with this series..

It went from the most epic bad ass singleplayer story!

Seems on the 3rd installment the attitude at the end was .... hurry finish it... and just THINK of how much money we can make on Multiplayer DLC..... and we the consumer get crapped on.

The fact you can spend bioware/mspoints on Guns/ammo/ and in game crap is just simply retarded and SHOULD be obvious of the intentions now... Ditch the story and Rake in as much Cash on this SAD excuse of a multiplayer... that for the better lack of a word... Sux and should have been left out.   They could have taken the time and effort spent on that crap to actually finish the game like we where promised... With all our allies/descisions/paragon/renegade even mattering..

This 3rd game kills Replayablity for for all 3 games...... Whats the point...  16 Endings is a Lie its more like 3 and the only difference is color  RGB..

What happen to all this hype... Bioware the Pulse ... thousands of decisions  Boasting on how much you can change it...

I got MY HAND on the bioware pulse and it feels a little WEAK!

Modifié par hchadw, 18 mars 2012 - 03:53 .

[hchadw]

Funkier_Than_Thou wrote...

tuzem2 wrote...

Funkier_Than_Thou wrote...

I think the citadel and the catalyst can function like deus ex machina that could revive Sheperd in an alternate dimension. Liara and Edi mentioned that there could be a bubble wherein mass effect engines and their law of physics could exist in. So the possibility of an alternate universe adventure for our sheperd exists. Imagine a universe where sheperd died in Eden Prime and Saren suceeded with his plans because there was no sheperd to stop him. Then our sheperd gets catapulted in that universe.

That will render the current story useless...

I didn't say it was a good idea.   I am just saying that there are lots of ways the ME3 ending could work but I would hold off giving up on the series until I see what's next for the franchise. I am still looking forward for a DLC with Aria in it and retaking Omega... I hope Bioware has an Ace up their sleeve... I'm waiting to be pleasantly surprised...

Only way ill buy a DLC for Retaking Omega is if it includes a Free copy of THE ARRIVAL  (of an actual ending)

[Funkier_Than_Thou]

nikola8 wrote...

Everyone who says there are plot holes in the ending needs to realize that the same people who created the universe in the first place are the ones who wrote the ending (minus Karpyshyn). They have the authority to make the ending how ever they want and it is canon in the ME universe. That said, there ARE things in the ending that are left out (not plot holes, but rather the ending leads to some questions). Obviously the writers know the answers to those questions. They can fill in the gaps and explain the ending perfectly, and it would be free from plot holes or impossibilities and everyone would understand. There is a reason they haven't done that- they want people to debate it and even for people to get mad about it. This whole thing is generating publicity and, as they say, "any publicity is good publicity." I would not be surprised in a few months if, after this initial fire has died down, they release a statement, a book, or some DLC that explains everything. Right now, however, they are just basking in the fact that some people are getting really mad and some people are adamantly defending the ending.

I've heard the phrase "damage control" in relation to Bioware's reaction to this game. That couldn't be further from the truth. I have read that the design team all did between 40-120 playthroughs of the game during the debugging and development phase. They knew the ending they were presenting, but they knew it in light of information they have yet to give us. For those who like the ending, I'm sure you'll like it more when they explain more. For those who didn't, don't get mad- Bioware is feeding off this fire that the ending is causing, and I'm sure they'll offer more explanation in due time.

That's very well put. And I don't think I could have said it any better. Like I said in my previous post... I'm just waiting to be pleasantly surprised...  

[hchadw]

Funkier_Than_Thou wrote...

nikola8 wrote...

Everyone who says there are plot holes in the ending needs to realize that the same people who created the universe in the first place are the ones who wrote the ending (minus Karpyshyn). They have the authority to make the ending how ever they want and it is canon in the ME universe. That said, there ARE things in the ending that are left out (not plot holes, but rather the ending leads to some questions). Obviously the writers know the answers to those questions. They can fill in the gaps and explain the ending perfectly, and it would be free from plot holes or impossibilities and everyone would understand. There is a reason they haven't done that- they want people to debate it and even for people to get mad about it. This whole thing is generating publicity and, as they say, "any publicity is good publicity." I would not be surprised in a few months if, after this initial fire has died down, they release a statement, a book, or some DLC that explains everything. Right now, however, they are just basking in the fact that some people are getting really mad and some people are adamantly defending the ending.

I've heard the phrase "damage control" in relation to Bioware's reaction to this game. That couldn't be further from the truth. I have read that the design team all did between 40-120 playthroughs of the game during the debugging and development phase. They knew the ending they were presenting, but they knew it in light of information they have yet to give us. For those who like the ending, I'm sure you'll like it more when they explain more. For those who didn't, don't get mad- Bioware is feeding off this fire that the ending is causing, and I'm sure they'll offer more explanation in due time.

That's very well put. And I don't think I could have said it any better. Like I said in my previous post... I'm just waiting to be pleasantly surprised...  

Im Hoping to be pleasantly suprised..  

[hchadw]

syllogi wrote...

Sigh.

So basically, "the critics had no problem with it, deal with the endings, ignore the fact that "deeper RPG elements" apparently means large swaths of auto dialogue, and buy our upcoming multiplayer DLC."

Well, it was a great trilogy right up to a few feet before the finish line.

Yeah I was waiting for the iLLusive man to start trying to sale me Cerberus DLC ...... i think who ever wrote this ending may have been indocrinated

[Madmoe77]

nikola8 wrote...

Everyone who says there are plot holes in the ending needs to realize that the same people who created the universe in the first place are the ones who wrote the ending (minus Karpyshyn). They have the authority to make the ending how ever they want and it is canon in the ME universe. That said, there ARE things in the ending that are left out (not plot holes, but rather the ending leads to some questions). Obviously the writers know the answers to those questions. They can fill in the gaps and explain the ending perfectly, and it would be free from plot holes or impossibilities and everyone would understand. There is a reason they haven't done that- they want people to debate it and even for people to get mad about it. This whole thing is generating publicity and, as they say, "any publicity is good publicity." I would not be surprised in a few months if, after this initial fire has died down, they release a statement, a book, or some DLC that explains everything. Right now, however, they are just basking in the fact that some people are getting really mad and some people are adamantly defending the ending.

I've heard the phrase "damage control" in relation to Bioware's reaction to this game. That couldn't be further from the truth. I have read that the design team all did between 40-120 playthroughs of the game during the debugging and development phase. They knew the ending they were presenting, but they knew it in light of information they have yet to give us. For those who like the ending, I'm sure you'll like it more when they explain more. For those who didn't, don't get mad- Bioware is feeding off this fire that the ending is causing, and I'm sure they'll offer more explanation in due time.

This isn't the point. If a writer cannot explain within the context of their story a conclusion not supported in the rise anf fall of its narrative, that is not the fault of the reader or in this case interactive viewer. Having "someone" who worked on the creation of the game explain it after the fact breaks this time honored tailoring of story telling/reader contract. And before someone says this is ground breaking and new-it is not. This supposed "new" and brave method has been done before successfully and that is apparent not in this telling. It isn't being negative to say someones story has veered off the road. It is entirely unprofessional to wave a wand over your audience and say just believe it to be true and trust that it makes sense. 

[Homebound]

If anything else, I applaud the amount of paragon points Casey has for this writeup. Its nice to see someone break the "lol u mad BSN?" narrative that everybody seems to be giving the fans.

[Urumashi]

sooo...what i got out of that was "We understand your concerns.....anyway how about those ratings?"

[hchadw]

http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

Theres a good piece to read ... pretty much hits the nail on the head about most of the communities anger

[hchadw]

Urumashi wrote...

sooo...what i got out of that was "We understand your concerns.....anyway how about those ratings?"

LOL

You almost made me spit my tea out on my keyboard..... thats pretty much what it does say LOL

[olco]

What community wants it already in these forums. For me, ME3 is definitely missing closure and more Harbinger. Which squad mates survived? How will rest of the galactic society travel through galaxy? Where is Normandy? What happened to Citadel residents? If BW choose to keep the endings, I'm not against, what has been seen cannot be unseen, but more clarification from godlike star kid would be appreciated or delete him entirely since he raises more questions than answers. Indoctrination theory fills some plot holes nicely, but than final product is incomplete. I don't think this get official (I like it though), if it does than real ending MUST be for free. If possible, endings should be available according to decisions made in all three games and not from war assets count. I also would like to see Sheppards implants, but thats minor and cosmetic change, that does not matters at all.

[Blc949]

I'd like to point out that loaning out your copies won't radically effect the ending as we now know the galactic readiness matters but not that much. I have a buddy who's been holding off trying to find a collectors edition. I told him don't buy it, and just borrow my copy (as I know he'll play no matter what I say). Food for thought.

[jtrook]

Karimloo wrote...

I wonder why the fans and the media differ greatly in experiences with the game.

Perhaps the reason is -

Because we have played the game(s) and have a deep concern for it. Well Bioware at a legal or business level does not owe us an ending, at the loyalty and "community friendly" persona level, it would help them greatly to do so. I think Bioware was shocked at our responce and is trying to figure their next step. 

[Dickard]

I'm done wasting my money on Bioware games. Fûçk em...<_<

Modifié par Dickard, 18 mars 2012 - 05:08 .

[KeyStroke]

catelee2u wrote...

Babe Mause wrote...

We always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending.
I still want to know why the ending keeps being called bittersweet by developers.I really would like to know what part of the ending should be considered sweet. The bitter parts I get. There were lots of them. But where's my sweet part? 

This is how I see it. It's bitter because of the sacrifice that has to be made but the sweetness comes in seeing the future of the people on the planet after and the fact that they are going to continue and survive and although things aren't perfect there is hope and there are no more reapers to mess up another cycle (either through abscence or control) so we are all free to live the next cycle without any threat whatsoever so all the hard work has been worth it.

Tbh I don't really see much of a happy ending to come, or a rebuilt earth with the first. You have basicaly the largest fleet ever assembeld, stranded in orbit around Earth. (unless they all blew up), and you got the planet full of the army you assembled in your journey. After a while they wont start play house to put it like that.

Put another Solarian on the BBQ, the Krogans getting hungry

[hchadw]

http://www.strategyi...ffect-3-endings

[CPTHughJardon]

i didn't think it possible to be more outraged at bioware but i was wrong.what a shame it is for you mr hudson that the new york times and PA don't buy you're games but we do,i wonder where you would be without our money and only the approval of bought off and buttered up review sites?you withdrew finished pre-released,in game content and charged people for it,you gave us without question the sloppiest game of the series,you lied on all you're pre-release promises,and now this garbage.i bet you and you're money masters EA are loving all this i believe its called problem reaction solution.you create the problem,soak up the reaction,then offer a solution at a cost.if there is no free dlc to fix this mess then i am done with bioware and as a fan of you're work not only in the mass effect series,it pains me to say that,but i am absolutely disgusted with this company not only for the game ME3 but you're actions prior during and after.

[Rorschachinstein]

CPTHughJardon wrote...

i didn't think it possible to be more outraged at bioware but i was wrong.what a shame it is for you mr hudson that the new york times and PA don't buy you're games but we do,i wonder where you would be without our money and only the approval of bought off and buttered up review sites?you withdrew finished pre-released,in game content and charged people for it,you gave us without question the sloppiest game of the series,you lied on all you're pre-release promises,and now this garbage.i bet you and you're money masters EA are loving all this i believe its called problem reaction solution.you create the problem,soak up the reaction,then offer a solution at a cost.if there is no free dlc to fix this mess then i am done with bioware and as a fan of you're work not only in the mass effect series,it pains me to say that,but i am absolutely disgusted with this company not only for the game ME3 but you're actions prior during and after.

Not to mention they  never went through their Dr.Pepper deal.

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

Mass Effect Universe its finished, the ending of Mass Effect 3 its the and of the entire narrative Universe,

because all of the 3 possible choose overload the Relay in the entire Galaxy, generate a series of explosion, the force of the impact destroy all, like the Alfa Relay in Arrival dlc,

all the species in the Galaxy Fleet its locked in the Sun System, Asari,Salarian,Turian,Elcor,Hanar,Quarian,Rachni not have the possibility to return in the respective HomeWorld, because the Relay its dostroyed,

its possible all of the people go on the Earth and unit create a new Community a new Concil,

after the credit, one cutscene reveals another world, on this strange planet one man and one child spech about the Commander Shepard, but this cutscene its for all the choose,

if yuo destroyed the Reaper, Shepard its live not its die, but in all of this choose the Normandy go on a strange planet, the ship damaged, but all the squad of the Commander and all of the crew of Normandy are live,

so Why ?

BioWare have take my possibility to visit Thessia whit my Female Shepard and Liara,
BioWare have take my possibility to visti the HomeWorld of Turian,Salarian,Elcor and Hanar,
BioWare have put the epilogue of Shepard and Liara in this anding, the anding of the entire Mass Effect Universe.
I not have the force to re-play Mass Effect 3,

Mass Effect trilogy not its the only history of the Commandar Shepard, its history of the entire Galaxy Cummunity,

Mass Effect 3 its the anding of all you are made of the Mass Effect Universe,

if you create a parallel story or a previus story, this have and in Mass Effect 3 ,

not exist future.

[Brutikai]

My head hurts.