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[ftbscreamer]

Well I don't know Mr Casey, I tend to take Rock Paper Shotgun more seriously than New York Times when it comes to games.

.... and without falling prey to ME3′s biggest problem…

Magic Ghost Children Are Silly – Yes. Yes they are.

That being said, well done Bioware on an amazing 25+ hours of game

Modifié par ftbscreamer, 18 mars 2012 - 09:30 .

[schlesier]

Played ME3 3 times to the end. Ends are the same, only colours changed. Big game, big grafic, big moments, big sounds..pure end destroying all attributes before. No reason to play it again and no reason to buy a dlc. I knew, that Bioware want to close the Shepard Saga, but not counted with an uppercut. There are more and better ways to close the story!!
After played ME3 I don`t believe Mr. Hudson even 1 word!!

[Saodade]

Holgergn wrote...
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Now some suggestions how I would have let the story have ended. Three endings? Good idea, because there are three possible character developments of Sheppard during the Mass Effect series: the bad Sheppard – kills Illusive Man, takes control of the reapers instead of the I.M., rules the galaxy as a dictator/military ruler (remove Sheppard from power and a lot of cleaning up – Mass Effect 4?); the neutral Sheppard – destroys the reapers, races are saved, the circle is broken, galaxy in chaos (a lot to clean up, installing new council – Mass Effect 4?); and finally the good Sheppard – Synthesis, but he would never decide alone the fate of the trillions of survivors all over the galaxy because he has not the right to do so, he would at least ask the remaining governments if they would join this kind of “evolution” and only the races that agree will be transformed (still a lot to clean up and need for a new council – Mass Effect 4?).

I  really love the idea of  shepard turning  tyran style if  choosing to control the  reapers (  like Loghain Mac Tir in dragon age) .That  would be  indeed a bittersweet choice  among endings:
the  hero archtype turning super  vilain,  the  astonishment of his ancient crew, some fighting him back or  rallying  him blindly (I would  bet my 3 last coins that Jaavik would join  him lol). How more bittersweet  feeling than  having to fight against the one  you was  loving or liking with all your will? And that would open gate to   a spin off of mass effect, or explain why some  centuries later  there were a war raging  between the  Sheparders and the others lol. 
Thought  the hero turning vilain while  trying to save his love/world  had already been  done  with Anakin...

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

I don't like how the whole ending is forced on us, how every Shepard is basic film hero, how he accept the reaper reasonning as the truth and act by its will.

Modifié par Kakita Tatsumaru, 18 mars 2012 - 12:03 .

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

Mass Effect 3 not close also the Adventure of Shepard, but close the entire Universe,
not its possible create e new parallel story, during, before or after,
the Galaxy go to to the distraction, all the Relay create explosion in siries,
this energy go to add whit the energy generate by Star explosion, the devastation its start,
nothing go to survive this is the truth,

Liara in the trailer spech : This is the End ? yes

its the and of Mass Effect Universe

BioWare not have give the possibility to visit Thessia whit Liara in this Trilogy, and never heppend,

BioWare not have give the possibility to visit the HomeWorld of Hanar, Elcor , Volus, Turian, why ?

i whats e little site of Palaven in the comics, but not in the game.

i'm stay wait in this moment, i not go play multy e sigle play, before possible changed in the game.

i only go to play Mass Effect 1 and 2, but not Mass Effec 3.

[The man of myth]

 There is an old SNL bit starring William Shatner called "Get a life." In it, Shatner visits a star trek convention. This bit quite easily sums up many of you and your "complaints."  Go google it, youtube it, whatever it is you need to do but watch it. You are the convention attendees, and bioware, as well as anyone with half a brain remaining in their head, is Shatner. Enjoy.

[Jobasha]

The man of myth wrote...

 There is an old SNL bit starring William Shatner called "Get a life." In it, Shatner visits a star trek convention. This bit quite easily sums up many of you and your "complaints."  Go google it, youtube it, whatever it is you need to do but watch it. You are the convention attendees, and bioware, as well as anyone with half a brain remaining in their head, is Shatner. Enjoy.

People did pay for the game, though; it is not a TV show.

[Vanth]

I don't think I will be buying any more Bioware games. They dropped the ball with Dragon Age 2, dropped the ball with The Old Republic, and now they have dropped the ball with Mass Effect. These were all games I had been anticipating for quite a while, and they were a bitter disappointment. How could they destroy such sure fire hits with such exceptional IPs?

It is easy to blame EA (especially since these disasters have happened since they were bought out), but I think we just have to accept that Bioware is no longer the games company we have known and loved since Baldur's Gate.

Modifié par Jethart, 18 mars 2012 - 12:22 .

[windkayak]

Demon Velsper wrote...

Casey, don't ****** in my ear and tell me it's raining.

Bravo..without realising they created grunt's,shepards',garrus's and all kind of neat characters,and even some freaking Udinas.

Bioware,you gave us a game that put us in ways to do some hard choices but to never give up in face of indoctrination,and fear.

You want a fight? Look around you,it's on.That's the price for shaping heroes.


Admiral Hackett: We can do this, Shepard. You can do this. Never doubt that.

Major Kirrahe: And Commander… Regardless of what the politicians decide, you can count on my support retaking Earth. Consider it my way of returning a favor. It would be an honor to fight alongside you again


Jack: They thought they were so clever. Turns out, mess with someone’s head enough and you can turn a scared kid into an all-powerful ****. ****ing idiots.



Wrex: Anyone who fights us is either stupid or on Saren’s payroll. Killing the latter is business. Killing the former is a favor to the universe.

Prothean: I am the anger of a dead people, demanding blood be spilled for the blood we lost.

Captain Anderson: Humanity needs a hero. And Shepard’s the best we’ve got.

Aria T’Loak: I’m the boss, CEO, queen if you’re feeling dramatic. It doesn’t matter. Omega has no titled ruler and only one rule. Don’t **** with Aria

Miranda: We’re all hoping you can do the impossible, Shepard. No pressure.

Ashley:Why is it whenever someone says "with all due respect", they really mean "kiss my ass"? 

Commander Shepard[/b]: You think I'm crazy, don't you? 
Urdnott Wrex[/b]: Sometimes crazy is the best way to go. 

Captain David Anderson[/b]: Shepard's right. Humanity is ready to do its part. United with the rest of the Council, we have the strength to overcome any obstacle. When the Reapers come, we must stand side by side. We must fight against them as one. And together we can drive them back into dark space! 

Commander Shepard[/b]: The Council can kiss my ass!  








I don't know if this is going to fly,but i hope so,whoever feels discontent over this issue,change your avatar picture to the N7 and hold the line.

Modifié par windkayak, 18 mars 2012 - 12:53 .

[SlackRabbit]

Casey response reeks of political speech......in short lots of words saying nothing.
The whole ME series now feels like the TV series LOST.
I LOST interest in that program in series 2, I wish I had LOST interest in ME in One.
If this is how we are treated, I will spend my money somewhere else.
We are in an economic depression and they still spit on their customers.

[Derengard]

Still, we wanted to give players the chance to experience an inspiring and uplifting ending; in a story where you face a hopeless struggle for basic survival, we see the final moments and imagery as offering victory and hope in the context of sacrifice and reflection.

This is as usual extremely vague, making it at first hard to either agree or disagree. It is no more than a plea for sympathy, since out of context these things seem to be nothing but positive.

But you cannot know whether some more traditional, logical ending wouldn't have the same effect. Or let me rephrase that: you can expect a "convincing" ending always to be generally preferred above an unconvincing ending and therefore be more likely to elicit any positive or approving reaction.

Secondly, if you wanted a specific response along those lines, you should have come up with something better, something less contrived, more substantial and more in keeping with what has gone before. If you wanted something reflective, you could have done so much better. Plausibility is the first requirement to provide room for reflection. That is why even a more expected ending would have provided more room for reflections, because your experiences and choices and the story would still matter.

And if you wanted things to be somewhat mysterious, maybe hinting at a larger backstory, they nevertheless have to have a logical and convincing connection to what has been established. If you present nothing but vague emotions and contradictory and ludicrous explanations, you cannot think and you destroy what has gone before. If you don't provide any convincing explanation and reverse the combative emotions into an indecisive "clarification of a misunderstanding", the only natural reaction is to feel emotionally bludgeoned. Any choices you present are meaningless.

Only the most irrational, impressionable or indifferent players are going to be satisfied. Everyone else is excluded. This is entirely unnecessary, since whatever conclusion(s) you are going for, with better writing you wouldn't need to leave such a large number of people excluded.

Modifié par Derengard, 18 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[SlackRabbit]

New ME3 ending
...and then Bobby steps out of the shower,

from 80's soap opera "Dallas". Pam (Victoria Principal) wakes up from her dream and finds Bobby (Patrick Duffy) alive in the shower; and so the entire previous season was a dream sequence...yes it is stupid, yes it never made sense...
........and now the record has been broken

[Getorex]

SlackRabbit wrote...

New ME3 ending
...and then Bobby steps out of the shower,

from 80's soap opera "Dallas". Pam (Victoria Principal) wakes up from her dream and finds Bobby (Patrick Duffy) alive in the shower; and so the entire previous season was a dream sequence...yes it is stupid, yes it never made sense...
........and now the record has been broken

I once mentioned that episode in another thread in this topic and KEEP thinking about it in regards to ME3.  I haven't reffed it since though thinking that the populace here would mostly not know about it.  Nice to see I'm not entirely wrong.

[MichaelJCarnell]

Hey people, im currently selling an N7 Collectors Edition (360) on eBay starting at normal price (£70). Its in great condition and its only been opened to check the contents. All DLC will be included! Any questions either PM me or email me on eBay. Thanks

http://www.ebay.co.u...9#ht_500wt_1255

[Getorex]

Jobasha wrote...

The man of myth wrote...

 There is an old SNL bit starring William Shatner called "Get a life." In it, Shatner visits a star trek convention. This bit quite easily sums up many of you and your "complaints."  Go google it, youtube it, whatever it is you need to do but watch it. You are the convention attendees, and bioware, as well as anyone with half a brain remaining in their head, is Shatner. Enjoy.

People did pay for the game, though; it is not a TV show.

Indeed.  And many of us spent money on the game series before and spent many hours playing them, guiding OUR personal Shepard(s) through the fairly open universe. 

We are not (at least I don't think so) a lot of fans who actually wear N7 gear, homemade or otherwise, or who paint our skin blue, etc, ala hardcore Trekkies (LOVED that SNL show with Shatner...hilarious).  We are paying customers who were promised a collaborative game series and promised an ending that would depend on the choices we made throughout the game.  At NO time did they ever promise us that they would give us all one ending, full of death and despair no matter your choices.  I can't simply be tossing $60 out the window all that often and that is PRECISELY what it feels like I did.  I got scammed by Bioware and tossed money in the trash as a result.

[Getorex]

MichaelJCarnell wrote...

Hey people, im currently selling an N7 Collectors Edition (360) on eBay starting at normal price (£70). Its in great condition and its only been opened to check the contents. All DLC will be included! Any questions either PM me or email me on eBay. Thanks

http://www.ebay.co.u...9#ht_500wt_1255

heh.  No doubt you'll get LOTS of offers.

Try the $20 price point for now.  That is all destined for the bargain bin in record time (unless Bioware takes steps, verbally and physically to correct this fudgepackery).

[Pani Mauser]

catelee2u wrote...

Babe Mause wrote...

We always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending.
I still want to know why the ending keeps being called bittersweet by developers.I really would like to know what part of the ending should be considered sweet. The bitter parts I get. There were lots of them. But where's my sweet part?

This is how I see it. It's bitter because of the sacrifice that has to be made but the sweetness comes in seeing the future of the people on the planet after and the fact that they are going to continue and survive and although things aren't perfect there is hope and there are no more reapers to mess up another cycle (either through abscence or control) so we are all free to live the next cycle without any threat whatsoever so all the hard work has been worth it.

Sorry, I don't see it the way you do. As writers wanted LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE, they never bothered to explain how mass really explosions in current endings affected the galaxy. So, your guess is as good as mine.

From what I know from Arrival and codex, mass relay explosion wipe out all the system in which relay is situated. Thus all capital worlds and colonies in systems with mass relays are wiped out. All fleets you was gathering through the game are dead too. Well, if you want to make up a good ending and imagine some way they all survived and lived happily ever after - it's your own imagination. Nothing in the ending approves or disproves it.

And even if bunch of remote colonies survived, they don't have nearly enough population to make up for all the losses. So, basically, Shepard done the same as Reapers - wiped all current advanced civilizations even in the best possible ending.

And the fact that thousands of years later some other civilizations will raise up helps little. I do not care for civilizations I never seen or heard about. So, it is not sweet for me to think that some unknown races will never know the Reaper threat.

It would be bittersweet if Shep died but it was explicitly shown that Earth and all other major worlds survived and there's really hope. Like DAO ending where you sacrifice your Warden.

The ship crush on some jungle planet with three survivors (in my case, Jocker, Garrus and Vega) is not sweet. It implies that either Garrus or Jocker and Vega will starve to death or will be forced to kill themselves in order not to starve to death. Very sweet and beautiful indeed. Yeah.

P.S. Edited for typos

Modifié par Babe Mause, 18 mars 2012 - 02:04 .

[Cypher333]

No matter what they say, If they don't fix the end i'll never bought a bioware or EA product again.

Modifié par Cypher333, 18 mars 2012 - 02:16 .

[Remington]

Although I like the fact that Casey mentioned you guys are listening, most of this statement is just PR-talk that does not give us ANYTHING.

[Cypher333]

Remington wrote...

Although I like the fact that Casey mentioned you guys are listening, most of this statement is just PR-talk that does not give us ANYTHING.

+1

[LordDain]

Dear Electronics Arts/Bioware reps,

Over the last 13 or so years I have been a faithful and loyal consumer of your products. I have purchased titles as Baldur's Gate, Star Wars: KoToR, Mass Effect 1, Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age 2 and finally recently Mass Effect 3. The last one after much anticipation.

As it stands right now, ME3 will be my last game I'll ever buy from you, if things stay the way they are and if you keep disrespecting your customer base. Let me explain my issues with the current situation;

Issue 1: ME3 in my book had the worst ending ever. I don't care for the reason which could be anything (from pushed release date/budget cuts, lack of good writing to trying to milk us with paid DLC), because whatever the reason is if it is one of those, it's equally bad!

Issue 2: Right now, OVER 50 THOUSAND have raised voice over your ending as disappointing/not right and demand a better one. That is just from 1 poll on your own forums. I am sure for every gamer that went through the effort of voicing themself on here, there is at least 2 more out there that haven't, probably more. We are talking about over one 10th of a million plus people who to certain degrees are disappointed/enraged/sad by the ending you gave them!

Issue 3: Ok, people / customers are dissappointed. That's a fact by now and can not be denied (by anyone sane anyways). But what are you doing to resolve it so far? Nothing what-so-ever! You have given us a PR post which tells us nothing. We, your customer base, demand an explanation about why the product we bought from you is so lackluster in it's ending. Was it intended? Was it a mistake made on your part? Where do you go from here to see to solving the issues with the ending? Will you compensate your customers in any way or form?

If things are not resolved, this will have been my last purchase ever from Bioware AND Electronic Arts. If not resolved, I am seriously contemplating to delete both my Origin accounts as well.

A disappointed and disgruntled customer from the Netherlands.

Modifié par LordDain, 18 mars 2012 - 02:32 .

[Tigerman123]

Day one bargain bin purchase

[Cypher333]

Mr Casey, thinks we are a minority, he thinks we don't accept the end of sheperd adventures no matter how it is, he is wrong we are the voice of hundred thousands people, and we want a quality closure!

[ZeroFlames]

Seriously? You people expected him to make a binding comment as to what they are or aren't going to do?

I'm beginning to think this place is not very bright. Between the "Ruined Forever!" response and the hilarious "bargain bin" comments, the internet has once again shown me you can ACTUALLY have a wrong opinion.

[tyranolol]

another bad critic for the me3 http://calitreview.com/24673 that's adding the forbe's one. please revise the ending because the ending of a trilogy it matters too much and we were expecting so much and we got that thing...