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maybe write in english?

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Why can't an ending be open? Why can't an ending to a game be not happy, but bittersweet - in all of its endings? I have read nearly every thread here and people seem to complain about the endings not being happy enough and the endings not given them closure? Some say the ending does not make any sense...but they do, to me, if you feel and listen to the music. And view it from a certain Faded perspective...

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I think some people in this thread? mentioned Shepard being unconscious after a certain beam hit him. They key word, to me, here is 'unconscious'. It all could have happened in Shepard's mind....

As for Bioware responding to the endings, the game has just recently come out in Russia or in Japan, I think? Bioware aren't going to cange the endings for maybe a month or two, they have however, said that they'll make a statement about the endings at the of this month (March 2012).

Bioware is certainly not the game company it was 15 or 17 years ago, nor even the game company it was 5 or 7 years ago. If they were, they would been out of business a long long time ago - just like so many other game companies over the years. I'm not the person I was 5 or 7 years ago, I have evolved since then. Why it is not allowed for a game company to do the same? Evolve in the way they see best.

As for people being mad, angry, upset etc. I can sort of understand why.... And yet, I find myself asking why people are upset, mad and angry? Is it because the ending doesn't make sense? Is it because the ending are of low quality? Or that you don't get to stay with your crew? Or that you don't get to have a ending with your love interest(LI)? Or is it because people expected an ending that gave them closure, not openness? Or is it because the ending make no sense or is because they're generally OK, but the message is not clear enough nor made well enough?

From what I've seen many people seem baffled, confused and perplexed as to what is going on through the endings in this game, the ME3 game. They can't understand what's going on during the final sequence(s) in the game and they want answers as to what in the Galaxy is going on here? or rather there? To me, it seems there might be a lot of cut material? that could have given players/gamers an explanation as what happens or happened?

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Those looking for a happy (as in triumphant) ending need to grow up in my opinion.

Having said that, I do think the way the endings were handled was rather poor.  The RPS article did a pretty good summation: http://www.rockpaper...end-of-an-epic/

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Hardly anybody looking to see the endings changed has a major concern about wanting "happy" endings.

Look to the side if you must, but the endings to Mass Effect 3 have some pretty major issues. I am jealous of anybody who accepts them, or even likes them. I cannot.

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neilthecellist wrote...

...ME, not MF...

I think panathatub meant exactly what he wrote:whistle:

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You know, I keep thinking this is all perfect fodder for a class action lawsuit. It wouldn't just affect Bioware and EA Games, but ALL software developers. I am a PC gamer and I pre-ordered this game based on what was advertised and promised, repeatedly, in these forums and elsewhere. The game that was delivered to me is NOT what was advertised. Thing is, I cannot pack up my game and send it back and get my money back. It is a digital download only. Now what we have here is, at best, a DEFECTIVE product but, more likely and accurately, a FRAUDULENT product. I WANT MY MONEY BACK but because it is a digital download...I cannot. This is unacceptable.
Not just for this game but for ANY software. Companies must NOT be allowed to go to digital download only and try and use that as a means to avoid refunding dissatisfied customers.

So, how about getting a nice class action lawsuit going so that digital downloads of ANY kind are not an excuse to blow off dissatisfied customers?

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I think the problem people have with the ending is it is like one of those obscure independent movies that some director makes solely to try and win an academy award instead of making it interesting. You know, the kind that no one ever sees or has heard of because it wasn't interesting or entertaining enough to make it into main stream?

Another analogy is going to an action sci-fi movie and finding out at the end it was a "chick flick".

Mr Hudson talks about anything but the "bittersweet ending" would be a betrayal. I do feel betrayed by the bittersweet ending....because of it being the ONLY ending. None of the ending choices are "good". At best, they are "neutral". ME1 and ME2 were brilliant with brilliant ending choices. What the betrayal actually was is changing the ending style. He can quote all the people that say "this is great". Since when do critics get it right and when are their reviews not rooted in politics? The people they should be worried about and be listening to are those of us who forked out $59USD and an additional 800BWP for "Javik" because without us, there wouldn't be a BioWare.

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Smiley556 wrote...

I will vote with my wallet if it comes round to it, but I would like to avoid that situation by making my voice be heard. Every day companies screw over their consumers, because consumers dont let their dissatisfaction be heard. No I'm aware not everybody has the same opinion as me, but I'm letting mine be heard, and so are many others. And thats exactly what every consumer in every industry should do. I agree insulting devs and such is bad and that disgusts me too, but that shouldnt take away the bigger picture that these consumers are unsatisfied, and are being vocal about it. The idea that everybody who isnt vocal about their dissatisfaction agrees with the product is just wrong. I'm not saying everybody is unsatisfied, but saying the oposite, that everybody who doesnt open their mouth is happy about the product, is equally wrong.

We are letting our dissatisfaction about the product that is Mass Effect 3 be heard. And dismissing our opinion on the premise of art is unsulting to us as consumers. If I do turn out to be a minority, and/or Bioware doesnt head our opinion then atleast we had our opinion heard. Sadly that will mean I have to indeed vote with my wallet in the future.

 

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asdoorip wrote...

Missing the point, as usual.

Most of us find ME3, overall, fantastic: Endings are the problem for 95% based on most polls.

It's not that we "don't like" the endings. Forget about that, just remove than from your minds.

Endings make no sense, they lack consistency and coherence. It's not that they aren't what we were "promised", they didn't even get close. Not because we were expecting them to were just brighter, or better, or something like that (some of us did expect that, but that's not the point really). We expected our choices after five years to matter, we expected different outcomes and we expected closure.

So yes, we do have the right to complain , push, and pressure ALWAYS staying polite.

Most of us stayed polite, most of us have always been polite. We're still being polite.

Can we complain? Of course.
Can they fix it? Absolutely.
Can they just ignore us? Probably yes.

But as most of us state : Every action have its consequences, they're not forced to give us what we want, we're free to close our wallets and go away. And that my friend, trust me, isn't good for them.

Have a pleasant day.

Hold the line.


Sorry, I missed your replies.

I won’t deny the ending had problems, but I still liked it. I think it was a good ending. Shaky, but good. I wouldn’t mind seeing some improvements that shed some light on some key scenes, but I don’t want them to change it in the way the community is suggesting.

I don’t wanna get into a debate, but I believe the choices did matter. Not in the way people were expecting, but they did, if you give it enough thought. Maybe it requires a bit too much thought. I feel that’s the main issue here.

That said, I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinions, and if they feel the need to voice their opinion, they should freely do so. But to go as far as demand a change? I can’t agree with that. It may just be because I’m an amateur artist myself, and would feel totally insulted if I spent countless hours on something, only to have it thrown back in my face and demanded it be changed.

Now, it's already been said that professional artists are asked to change their work all the time. And that’s true. I work as a web designer, and our clients often request changes, but that’s a totally different thing. I won’t go into detail, but a one-on-one exchange with a client can’t be compared with a mass market product released to a worldwide audience. Especially since the dissatisfaction felt by the customers isn’t about function. It’s entirely subjective. Look around the web, read articles, comments by people, and you’ll see opinions are pretty much split 50/50 on the matter, and for varying reasons no less. Polls may say otherwise, but considering that online polls can be voted on more than once, that’s not an accurate assessment. And I agree that just because some aren’t saying anything, that doesn’t mean they are happy. But you have to agree it doesn’t mean they aren’t either. There are many more factors here than just people on these forums and the polls.

Really, what I’m saying is all this hubub is just plain silly. Critique the ending if you want. Tell Bioware you’re not happy, but don’t demand stuff from them. They care about where their money and their time goes just as much as you do. And they’ve tried to make it plainly obvious in the past few days that they care about your time and money as well, yet everyone dismisses it as spin. They just can’t win. Everyone is posting “hold the line” all over the place because it gives them a sense of... what? Solidarity? About a video game ending? Really? Aren’t there better things to protest about? My hometown right now has students marching in the streets every other week, blocking off highways, and fighting off riot police over a college tuition hike planned by the government, and this is how you guys spend your energy? The Child’s Play thing was cool in theory, and I’m glad some kids are getting something positive out of all this, but in actuality people only donated because they wanted something for themselves, not because they wanted to help these children. I’m sorry, but that just feels wrong to me.

It’s all just so ridiculous

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"I don't know if this is going to fly,but i hope so,whoever feels discontent over this issue,change your avatar picture to the N7 and hold the line.:alien:"
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Absolutely windkayak, we will hold the line :alien:

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DCoacci wrote...

Smiley556 wrote...

I will vote with my wallet if it comes round to it, but I would like to avoid that situation by making my voice be heard. Every day companies screw over their consumers, because consumers dont let their dissatisfaction be heard. No I'm aware not everybody has the same opinion as me, but I'm letting mine be heard, and so are many others. And thats exactly what every consumer in every industry should do. I agree insulting devs and such is bad and that disgusts me too, but that shouldnt take away the bigger picture that these consumers are unsatisfied, and are being vocal about it. The idea that everybody who isnt vocal about their dissatisfaction agrees with the product is just wrong. I'm not saying everybody is unsatisfied, but saying the oposite, that everybody who doesnt open their mouth is happy about the product, is equally wrong.

We are letting our dissatisfaction about the product that is Mass Effect 3 be heard. And dismissing our opinion on the premise of art is unsulting to us as consumers. If I do turn out to be a minority, and/or Bioware doesnt head our opinion then atleast we had our opinion heard. Sadly that will mean I have to indeed vote with my wallet in the future.

 

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asdoorip wrote...

Missing the point, as usual.

Most of us find ME3, overall, fantastic: Endings are the problem for 95% based on most polls.

It's not that we "don't like" the endings. Forget about that, just remove than from your minds.

Endings make no sense, they lack consistency and coherence. It's not that they aren't what we were "promised", they didn't even get close. Not because we were expecting them to were just brighter, or better, or something like that (some of us did expect that, but that's not the point really). We expected our choices after five years to matter, we expected different outcomes and we expected closure.

So yes, we do have the right to complain , push, and pressure ALWAYS staying polite.

Most of us stayed polite, most of us have always been polite. We're still being polite.

Can we complain? Of course.
Can they fix it? Absolutely.
Can they just ignore us? Probably yes.

But as most of us state : Every action have its consequences, they're not forced to give us what we want, we're free to close our wallets and go away. And that my friend, trust me, isn't good for them.

Have a pleasant day.

Hold the line.


Sorry, I missed your replies.

I won’t deny the ending had problems, but I still liked it. I think it was a good ending. Shaky, but good. I wouldn’t mind seeing some improvements that shed some light on some key scenes, but I don’t want them to change it in the way the community is suggesting.

I don’t wanna get into a debate, but I believe the choices did matter. Not in the way people were expecting, but they did, if you give it enough thought. Maybe it requires a bit too much thought. I feel that’s the main issue here.

That said, I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinions, and if they feel the need to voice their opinion, they should freely do so. But to go as far as demand a change? I can’t agree with that. It may just be because I’m an amateur artist myself, and would feel totally insulted if I spent countless hours on something, only to have it thrown back in my face and demanded it be changed.

Now, it's already been said that professional artists are asked to change their work all the time. And that’s true. I work as a web designer, and our clients often request changes, but that’s a totally different thing. I won’t go into detail, but a one-on-one exchange with a client can’t be compared with a mass market product released to a worldwide audience. Especially since the dissatisfaction felt by the customers isn’t about function. It’s entirely subjective. Look around the web, read articles, comments by people, and you’ll see opinions are pretty much split 50/50 on the matter, and for varying reasons no less. Polls may say otherwise, but considering that online polls can be voted on more than once, that’s not an accurate assessment. And I agree that just because some aren’t saying anything, that doesn’t mean they are happy. But you have to agree it doesn’t mean they aren’t either. There are many more factors here than just people on these forums and the polls.

Really, what I’m saying is all this hubub is just plain silly. Critique the ending if you want. Tell Bioware you’re not happy, but don’t demand stuff from them. They care about where their money and their time goes just as much as you do. And they’ve tried to make it plainly obvious in the past few days that they care about your time and money as well, yet everyone dismisses it as spin. They just can’t win. Everyone is posting “hold the line” all over the place because it gives them a sense of... what? Solidarity? About a video game ending? Really? Aren’t there better things to protest about? My hometown right now has students marching in the streets every other week, blocking off highways, and fighting off riot police over a college tuition hike planned by the government, and this is how you guys spend your energy? The Child’s Play thing was cool in theory, and I’m glad some kids are getting something positive out of all this, but in actuality people only donated because they wanted something for themselves, not because they wanted to help these children. I’m sorry, but that just feels wrong to me.

It’s all just so ridiculous


No.  Not ridiculous at all.  See, what I see is incompetence, at best, and fraud at worst.  I paid MY money to Bioware for the game that was advertised, NOT the game I received.  The ending is either defective (incompetence) or it is intended (fraudulent).  Black and white.  It is black-and-white because Hudson and others are quoted IN THESE FORUMS and eveywhere else as stating the game would be something that it turned out NOT to be.  Better tha 90% of us paid for a game we did NOT receive and did not expect.  

Fraud.  It is not ridiculous.

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Very few people are complaining that the ending is bittersweet. A bittersweet ending for the series is entirely appropriate, considering the scale of what Shepard was up against and the theme of Mass Effect 3. People are unhappy because the bittersweet ending we got, was poorly executed. It introduced plot holes, a spoiler character that seems out of place in Mass Effect, and no option that truly feels like a win.

Most people are comfortable with and expect sacrifices on the part of Shepard and his team. But those sacrifices have to feel worthwhile. The sacrifices should purchase a total victory, not a pyrrhic one or a stalemate.

As for the glowing reviews from critics...

Whose opinion is more important? Newspaper men and professional game reviewers, who may not necessarily be diehard fans of the series, or the fans who have been hooked on the series since 2007? It isn't going to be the newspaper men purchasing DLC and future Bioware titles.

Mass Effect 3 was a great game. Probably 98% of it was amazing, and if not for the endings I would probably rank it as the best game in the series. But the ending the game shipped with managed to be disappointing for probably about 90% of the fanbase. If Bioware is truly listening, it should be discussing the possibility of DLC that would add a more satisfying conclusion to the existing endings. Not many people are going to want to purchase DLC focusing on Omega or Illium or some other section of the world, when the end content would be rendering the events there meaningless.

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SPOILER:  The logical fallacies of the ending, completely separated from the wants and desires associated with it.

:wizard: Spaaaaaace MAGIC!!!:wizard:

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I UN-registered both ME2 and ME3 and am merely holding off deleting them from my system until I know, without question, that there will be a proper fix to ME3. I WANT my money back but as I mention previously, its a digital download...

I absolutely will never purchase another Bioware title if this bullcrap isn't corrected. No mealy-mouthed nonsense about "art". Coders are no artists, they are coders. Business suits are not artists, they are suits. Stick with code hacking for the former, and spreadsheeting for the latter, but do NOT try and defend your garbage as being "art".

No. It isn't. You OWE us what you advertised and what we paid for and ME3 is NOT it.

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Well, this was a good " We heard what you said. " but nothing more.
I don't really agree with the point of view of many fans, which is " the end is not happy enough" or "there is no way to make shep survive" and else.

I saw this comming for long. Shepard was pushed into this war, with the universe on his shoulders. It was pretty obvious to me that he would probably sacrifice himself to save what he loves.
What hurt me was the way it happened.
Mass Effect was the most immersive universe I ever met in videogames, and I really enjoyed how the game was designed so that Sherpard was a part of myself, how I felt attached to the numerous people you meet during the adventure, etc.
And after something like 40 hours of epic moments on Insane difficulty which makes you proud to accomplish every little thing, makes you feel how everything Shepard do is a little miracle, or even feel down when you come back from Thessia... There, here comes a "The universe doesn't really bend his rules whatever you do", and a 3button box that barely modifies the ending video. In 5s I felt like I was playing Deus Ex: Human Revolution. But I was more sentimentally involved and almost hurt.
Not really because the possibilities of ending are not so varied, but because the ending is not really clear, somehow incosistent, and doesn't really feel like an ending since all game long you made choices that would influence the after war, and you don't get to really SEE what happens next.
Will Krogan go at war ?
Will the Quarians have faith in Geths ?
What will happen to Asaris now that their secret is revealed ?
And how will the universe run, will a new council system etablished ?
How will species interact with each other ? Still selfishly or did this act of faith push them to stick together ?

Many of these questions have various obvious answers given the way you have led the game, but I was expecting to see it with my eyes, not only finding out by myself.
And I still don't understand the Normandy Crusoe part. Nor how Anderson could be up there healthy as hell when 5mins ago we heard "everyone's dead", and you're in a bloody bad state.

I am grateful of the work put on the game and the story, and I understand the ending can make the team proud. Because Mass Effect is one hell of an epic universe, dramatic story. And was able to move so many people in a way video games don't even try to.
I'm just sad that the ending felt so sketchy or not revelative enough.

I don't think we'll ever see a "Ice Cream, Kittys and puppys Endings DLC", it would be an insult to the whole writers team who planned this ending for a long time.
But I hope, somewhere deep inside, that they'll patch the game and add a little somthing to the endings, for each of the 3 choices, really showing you how you affected the universe. A video part, or a more interactive part in the catalyst.

Anyways, thanks Bioware for these 5 years of immersion, and I hope you'll listen to the feedback you get.
This was just how I felt. To me you didn't really ruin the universe with the ending. You just did not let enough hints to this during the 3 games, and didn't give enough answers while endind a legend. If fans are this much angered/saddened, it's because they are passionnate for a universe that moved them, and also because they know it's the END of this story in ME universe. Or at least it should have been. But maybe the DLC system isn't compatible with an ended story and a maybe dead hero...

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Long talk, nothing in it what has not been already said.

Take DA:O as an example. You could have your bittersweet ending, but you also could have a triumphant ending, it was your choice as the player. I played it very bittersweet, but it was my choice.

ME3 should really admit they could do better. That would not be a catastrophe because I think everybody has to admit that this game is fantastic in almost every other aspect. Man, I watch youtube vids all the time with all alternative options on romances, friendships and whatnot. It is amazing. The end really does not fit to this.

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Kailord wrote...

Long talk, nothing in it what has not been already said.

Take DA:O as an example. You could have your bittersweet ending, but you also could have a triumphant ending, it was your choice as the player. I played it very bittersweet, but it was my choice.

ME3 should really admit they could do better. That would not be a catastrophe because I think everybody has to admit that this game is fantastic in almost every other aspect. Man, I watch youtube vids all the time with all alternative options on romances, friendships and whatnot. It is amazing. The end really does not fit to this.


Indeed.  I want the full gamut of endings.  I want a "good" ending where my Shep doesn't die and ends up with his LI (though you can throw in bitter by killing off others) and I want a horrible ending where Shep dies and so does virtually all the crew.  You need carrot to counter the stick, you cannot be all stick.  Especially if you want replay.  Why would I replay if the best I (Shepard) could EVER do is die?  It's fine that some people demand that Shepard die.  Kill your Shepard with my blessing but that is YOUR story and how YOU played, not the way I played.  You opinion is not superior to mine nor anyone else who wants somethng else too.  To get the "good" ending should be difficult while getting the nihilistic ending should be a cakewalk.  Do everything wrong and you die and you fail to defeat the reapers.  Do it mostly wrong and you die but barely manage to defeat the reapers.  Do it mostly right and you die but most of your crew survives with the reapers defeated.  Do EVERYTHING right and its ride off into the sunset baby.

We played OUR game and you played yours.  You played as a total dick or as a total priss.  Knock yourself out but don't try and force ALL of us down the funnel into the same final meatgrinder.  I don't want to be hamburger, thank you.

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There is no music underneath during game, it seems to me it is the greatest error as good music will make even the most tiresome moment fine! Finish game in respect of music underneath! Music should accompany us throughout all game!

I think at you there is a translator start up will translate!

не хватает музыкального сопровождения во время игры, мне кажется это самая большая ошибка так как хорошая музыка сделает даже самый нудный и плохой  момент прекрасным! доработайте игру в плане музыкального сопровождения! музыка должна нас сопровождать на протяжении всей игры! спасибо за внимание!

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catelee2u wrote...

Babe Mause wrote...

We always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending.
I still want to know why the ending keeps being called bittersweet by developers.I really would like to know what part of the ending should be considered sweet. The bitter parts I get. There were lots of them. But where's my sweet part? 


This is how I see it. It's bitter because of the sacrifice that has to be made but the sweetness comes in seeing the future of the people on the planet after and the fact that they are going to continue and survive and although things aren't perfect there is hope and there are no more reapers to mess up another cycle (either through abscence or control) so we are all free to live the next cycle without any threat whatsoever so all the hard work has been worth it.

Although I am satisfied and happy with the end as it stands currently I am a fan of indoctrination theory and think that would satisfy a lot of people. I don't know if that would tie in with any current plans or developments that Bioware/EA have though and whether it would fit with any DLC's or ME4 planned.

The more I think about it the more beautiful the current ending seems and I wish more people could see it the way I do but I respect that everyone has their own opinions and way of seeing things.


Not only is the ending a problem but i think most peoples issue is the fact in all 3 games you could say things  paragon and renegade options.. or do things..  it seemed like the last 10-15 mins of the game wasnt Masseffect at all .. it was some crappy Mac Walters Vision (with not real choices)  of how it should end with None of your Choices Considered through all 3 games....    The game is about  Options and who/what you do or say.. but the ending/endings/Color Sequences  in many peoples eyes is unfinished!

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I am very disappointed in Bioware- none of my choices mattered in the end and shepard ALWAYS dies.

On a separate plot-related note, given that all the mass relays are destroyed, there could never be a feasible spin-off sequel. Why kill off a franchise like that?

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What can you tell us about the allegations that the Writers for the ending sequence were high!?

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It´s sad that they obviously don´t respect us as customers trying to pull of such a smoke screen tech... Low.. For shame Casey Hudson for shame

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All I can say is that right now, I'm sitting at home and not playing mass effect 3. I find myself thinking of what I'm going to do in my next playthrough, only to suddenly remember that I won't be doing it, because nothing matters in the end. I still have to pick from three different coloured suicides, no matter how much fun and amazing moments I encounter on the way there.

Bioware, you have to fix this.

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Just to be clear I hated the ending - I don't say endings because technically there was only really one ending. It was kind of like writing a well crafted sensitive it's been a great ride and our relationship has run its course letter. Only to say oh and by the way F. U. So when the next Bioware game comes out, I won't be as ready and willing to pony up $60 and support the developer. I might just wait for a used copy and support Gamestop instead. I least with them I know i'm getting screwed and don't have to wait a few weeks for them to say I intended to screw you all a long. Haha jokes on you. I would like a real ending though DLC, but I am not demanding one. Because I truely do vote with my wallet rather than petitions. I like football, but don't by Madden games every year, because they don't grow or innovate. Vote with your wallet people, then not only will Bioware listen, but so will EA and every other game maker out there. This franchise proves one thing, not all gamers want a shoot guy A get achievement. I want an experience and I had that all the way upto the end. I still play the game love the multiplayer, but wont play the end its just sooo....dissatisfying, oh and thank you for the wonderful Liara moments.

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aries1001 wrote...

Why can't an ending be open? Why can't an ending to a game be not happy, but bittersweet - in all of its endings? I have read nearly every thread here and people seem to complain about the endings not being happy enough and the endings not given them closure? Some say the ending does not make any sense...but they do, to me, if you feel and listen to the music. And view it from a certain Faded perspective...



The game can be open ended, it can have down played ending, it can have a "bad" ending, it can have a linear ending, it can have meaningless ending......it CAN have any kind of ending you as a developer can inviosion for it. The issue here is not if it can have such an ending, the issue with most people disliking it is, weather it should have such an ending as the only ending possible. Ask a great deal of the fans here, would they be playing and replaying the first 2 games dozens upon dozens of times, making different choices on each playthrough, if they knew they would get only one ending that has no corelation at all with the way they played the game.

I am happy the you liked the ending. I really am. Now is it too far fetched to imagine that there could be endings that other players would like? After all the game was advertised as such. And this time it was the final game in the series. There was no follow-up tp take into account when thinking of potential ways for the game to end. In ME2 you had 2 basic endings, end making a third game was the main opsticle in having more. It would be a too broad stroke and divert too many resources to create plausible continuations in ME3. But this time it wasn't so. They could have branched it out in as many ways they wanted. It appears they only wanted one. And this is why we whine.

Edited for typing errors :P

Modifié par ile_1979, 18 mars 2012 - 07:25 .


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