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[Coloradosfinest]

Lycius wrote...

I love how he only quoted the comments by PA that were backing him. They also made some different comments about things we are all complaining about.

More PR crap and no real statement on how they intend to address the mass of fans/consumers who think the end destroyed the entire saga.

You know, a simple answer would likely aleviate all this crap.

1. Go F yourself, we like our ending.
or
2. We understand that our loyal fans are seriously upset and are working to resolve this. Be patient.

[BDDME]

D4wson wrote...

Kushan101 wrote...

But I'm holding out that you guys are gonna do a DLC that does nothing more than give us the fully fleshed out ending we've all been waiting for - you said 1 year of extra content being released? Don't care if it comes out in December, I'll be there waiting for it.

This. Give us a complete ending, and my faith in the Mass Effect series will be restored. And after that, if you produce another paid Shadow Broker-quality DLC pack, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it.

I have never participated in these forums before, but I am for the first time today just to add one more name to the list of fans who were not moved at all by the ending.

ME3 was fantastic.  So absolutely fantastic.  It was nearly the perfect
cap to the trilogy.  Up until the very end, it didn't fail.  It didn't
fall short.  It was everything we could have hoped for (few bugs aside)
as the final chapter of a long epic saga.  After such a long journey,
the ending leaves us unfulfilled.  Unsatisfied.  it's anti-climactic.

I support Kushan's idea.  Please, Bioware, use your enormous pool of talent and resources to create a much better realized ending.

[thedosbox]

Arcian wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Before I finished ME3, I would have taken a bullet for Casey.

Not anymore. This crappy response just shows he doesn't give a sh!t about the fans. No one at BioWare does - they just spin lies and crush dreams while filling their bank accounts.

I can only imagine your response if they retcon the ending and give it to you for free.

Really sticking to your guns, I bet.

I won't support or buy another BioWare game, free retconned ending or not, until Casey Hudson and Mac Walters has been fired from the company. They have shown themselves incapable of handling this IP.

You want to see people fired because you didn't like one aspect of a game?  Seriously?

Sheesh.

[EAadembroski]

 The issue Mr. Hudson does not address is how NONSENSICAL the ending was. I get that the entirety of Mass Effect 3 was effectively an ending, with several threads being close off at once... and in fact, most of them were closed off in great ways.

I would argue that TOO MUCH was resolved in ME3 leading up to the conclusion- the fact that Shepard basically resolves all of the galaxy's collective quandries at once is a bit ridiculous. 

However,  the real problem is that your ending RENDERED ALL OF IT MOOT!

What does it matter that the Genophage is cured, the Quarians are back on the homeword, etc., if the end of the Reapers is also the end of the galactic community. 

Plus the ending plain didn't make any friggin' sense. From the backwards logic of the purpose of the Reapers, to Shepard turning into a nodding kitty cat, to the Normandy suddenly racing away from the battlefield... it just... boggles the mind how anybody could think this was a good ending.

Modifié par EAadembroski, 19 mars 2012 - 02:31 .

[Biggtuna]

The mention of the NY Times is misleading. From the Normandy's shakedown run until the sequence when you are beamed into the Citadel over London, it certainly is near-perfect. But, the conclusion to the series and the third game is only vaguely mentioned in that review. It's better so cite an article from say, GameFront, where five pages could be devoted to one aspect of the game. These are more accurate, along with fans' comments. That would give a clearer view of the disappointing and unbelievably unsatisfactory ending.

[USS Cushing]

Not sure if this has been posted but it is interesting to say the least
http://www.cinemable...alid-40581.html

I am hoping that this marks a change in Bioware attitude towards the ending but I also know that this could be more PR doublespeak as well
either way HOLD THE LINE

[The Tesla Effect]

Does this mean that will get a ending DLC?

[RiouHotaru]

I don't see the complaints here. He recognizes that people have issues with the way the series concluded and that they're listening to feedback, and they're going to be working on new content throughout the year.

Which is basically what everyone wanted them to say: "We're listening."

[Atakuma]

RiouHotaru wrote...

I don't see the complaints here. He recognizes that people have issues with the way the series concluded and that they're listening to feedback, and they're going to be working on new content throughout the year.

Which is basically what everyone wanted them to say: "We're listening."

What people wanted him to say is that he was sorry and that ending dlc will be made and given away for free with a backrub.

[Cybernetic_Queen]

Atakuma wrote...
What people wanted him to say is that he was sorry and that ending dlc will be made and given away for free with a backrub.

Actually I don't see that at all. I've literally just finished Mass Effect 3. And I'm on a board (at 3am local time might I add, bank holiday on Monday) trying to discuss why I felt the ending was...... Inappropriate. Which is a very conservative word. Surely the fact that so many are calling this topic out for so long has to be worth something.

What I personally would like would be for Bioware to just say, clearly, what their intended viewpoint and theme they were trying to give to show the series closure and, quite frankly, seriousness. I'm an English Lit and Drama student and, again quite frankly, Waiting for Godot had more closure than Mass Effect 3 because at least Godot never went from a very detailed analysis of a world to sudden pseudo-symbolism and vague assurances.

Modifié par Cybernetic_Queen, 19 mars 2012 - 03:12 .

[d20Dark]

I just finished ME3! I have to be frank and say that I was shi++ting a brick because there was SO MUCH DRAMA on the interwebs about the horrible ending to the game/trilogy and how SO many people are SO pissed off. I was playing toward the end with one hand thinking "THIS IS SO AWESOME!" and on the other "WHEN is the shi++y part?!?!!" and I was genuinely tense throughout the last 2 hours. When I got to the end- I was LITERALLY on the edge of my seat (ask my wife who thought it was funny to see) and as it wrapped up... Oh My God! I was sitting there... I was so emotional. I didn't even know how to process it all. It was brilliant. It was the single most thought provoking and amazing endings to anything I've read/watched or played. I won't spoil anything for anyone- but it was brilliant. As a fan of the games and the books and the comics... I couldn't have asked for anything more. As a lover of sci fi and sci fi movies... my mind is blown. I can not even begin to anticipate what comes next in the next series. How the hell do you top that and continue that story??? Just brilliant.
Do Not Change A Thing.

[slimgrin]

Atakuma wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

I don't see the complaints here. He recognizes that people have issues with the way the series concluded and that they're listening to feedback, and they're going to be working on new content throughout the year.

Which is basically what everyone wanted them to say: "We're listening."

What people wanted him to say is that he was sorry and that ending dlc will be made and given away for free with a backrub.

Not me. I expected him to treat everyone who is critical of their retarded, fixed ending with the same condescending PR crap that we hear from Ray M. And he didn't disappoint.

[tfKR3W]

Modifié par tfKR3W, 19 mars 2012 - 03:27 .

[medusa_hair]

Here's a quote from Casey's statement:

" Still, we wanted to give players the chance to experience an inspiring and uplifting ending; in a story where you face a hopeless struggle for basic survival, we see the final moments and imagery as offering victory and hope in the context of sacrifice and reflection."

I personally got none of this.  What was inspiring or uplifting about this?  Where was the victory and hope?  I don't know because it wasn't shown to me. 

I would have written off the rest of the ending as rushed and unfortunately written (it happens) and moved on, except for two things:  (won't mention them here but everyone who has finished knows them). I just could not believe Bioware would be that careless.  I am hoping, hoping that there was always a last chapter planned.  I hope the only miscalculation was how huge the fan discontent would be. 

Modifié par medusa_hair, 19 mars 2012 - 03:32 .

[USS Cushing]

d20Dark wrote...

I just finished ME3! I have to be frank and say that I was shi++ting a brick because there was SO MUCH DRAMA on the interwebs about the horrible ending to the game/trilogy and how SO many people are SO pissed off. I was playing toward the end with one hand thinking "THIS IS SO AWESOME!" and on the other "WHEN is the shi++y part?!?!!" and I was genuinely tense throughout the last 2 hours. When I got to the end- I was LITERALLY on the edge of my seat (ask my wife who thought it was funny to see) and as it wrapped up... Oh My God! I was sitting there... I was so emotional. I didn't even know how to process it all. It was brilliant. It was the single most thought provoking and amazing endings to anything I've read/watched or played. I won't spoil anything for anyone- but it was brilliant. As a fan of the games and the books and the comics... I couldn't have asked for anything more. As a lover of sci fi and sci fi movies... my mind is blown. I can not even begin to anticipate what comes next in the next series. How the hell do you top that and continue that story??? Just brilliant.
Do Not Change A Thing.

If you are fine with the ending then more power to you

But for myself my reaction was the endings were a slap in my face

so I guess that we'll agree to disagree.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Dlc that takes place after the ME3 conclusion , it's brought up a number times how he/she survived Harbinger's beam and fought off indoctrination.After that the story focus shifts to the dlc content.

[thehomeworld]

Does anyone who read the leaks know what the original endings where suppose to be allegedly the endings where leaked and some fans hated them and BW I guess had to scramble to redo it so copy/paste is what we got.

[ShadetheDalish]

ShadetheDalish wrote...

Both New York Times and Pen opinions were said by people who didn't play the game and they were said on the day of the games release to boot. I don't really state how we can even use those as justification anyways. Besides those quotes had nothing to do regarding the ending of the game which is what the topic is titled.

They needed to keep the Original Ending regarding how the Reapers were made to control Dark Matter as it was going to destroy the universe and so on and so on. Instead they go and decide last moment to cut that ending and put in these endings. It is a huge disappointment. I mean come on, none of this adds up or makes any sense. I don't know about anyone else but I 100% this first playthrough (meaning got all war assets possible all items and so on and so on) and this freaking ending just seemed like a big middle finger to me. (I am not making a personal attack here mods) I mean come on, his article only stated, "this is the ending we wanted", its claimd that this is the ending that fans would most likely like but that  cannot possibly be true with the large amount of fan base that is complaining regarding the ending . I have not really run into one person who hasn't said something regarding the ending so far. I work at GameStop in New York and we have had loads and loads of returns already of this game because of this ending (we tend to ask why are you returning it and thats their reply). I mean come on, then you also have the multiplayer bugs that were present even during the Beta so they should've been fixed back then yet they weren't. I mean come on this is ridiculous. I am angered myself because I poured 100 dollars in Microsoft Points and I went and bought Spectre Packs only to have all of it lock up on me . I don't even know what to do now, should I go and contest the charges (I've never done that before), should I wait and HOPE my 100 dollars wasn't just wasted and stolen or what. I mean this game yes it was good I enjoyed it but that ending was just it just made me want to throw the game across the room.

Its like the ending of the Sopranoes. I MEAN COME ON!!!

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

USS Cushing wrote...

d20Dark wrote...

I just finished ME3! I have to be frank and say that I was shi++ting a brick because there was SO MUCH DRAMA on the interwebs about the horrible ending to the game/trilogy and how SO many people are SO pissed off. I was playing toward the end with one hand thinking "THIS IS SO AWESOME!" and on the other "WHEN is the shi++y part?!?!!" and I was genuinely tense throughout the last 2 hours. When I got to the end- I was LITERALLY on the edge of my seat (ask my wife who thought it was funny to see) and as it wrapped up... Oh My God! I was sitting there... I was so emotional. I didn't even know how to process it all. It was brilliant. It was the single most thought provoking and amazing endings to anything I've read/watched or played. I won't spoil anything for anyone- but it was brilliant. As a fan of the games and the books and the comics... I couldn't have asked for anything more. As a lover of sci fi and sci fi movies... my mind is blown. I can not even begin to anticipate what comes next in the next series. How the hell do you top that and continue that story??? Just brilliant.
Do Not Change A Thing.

If you are fine with the ending then more power to you

But for myself my reaction was the endings were a slap in my face

so I guess that we'll agree to disagree.

To me it wasn't so much a slap to the place , it was that the Joker (Lost) stuff made no sense and the whole Shep_alive taking a breath as if your previous actions/ending happened in his mind.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Mass Effect has an underlying theme of sacrifice? Really?

This is the first I've heard of it.

[USS Cushing]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

Dlc that takes place after the ME3 conclusion , it's brought up a number times how he/she survived Harbinger's beam and fought off indoctrination.After that the story focus shifts to the dlc content.

There are endings were I will be wondering how that will possible to have after the story DLC

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

thehomeworld wrote...

Does anyone who read the leaks know what the original endings where suppose to be allegedly the endings where leaked and some fans hated them and BW I guess had to scramble to redo it so copy/paste is what we got.

Bon3zz1001 wrote... 


Here we go. Found it again. This is from the old script.

"Designer Cutscene:
Shepard comes to.
A handful of survivors from hammer, including Anderson and the henchmen, have gotten bogged down just a few dozen meters from the conduit and have dug in, but are dying quickly.
Suddenly, the Normandy streaks overhead, evading fire fromthe Reaper and blowing a hole in the Reaper enemies' lines.
Anderson shouts for Shepard to make a run for it, and orders the rest of Hammer to cover him."

The outcomes to this where as follows.
1: "Shepard and Anderson approach the conduit's beam. Shepard gets in, but Anderson is grabbed by a husk. Shepard turns to help, but before he can do anything, the beam activates, whisking Shepard away to the Citadel. On the other side, Shepard tears the metal from his leg and casts it aside, and then injects himself with Medigel."

2:"Shepard comes to. Anderson is dragging him forward. A jagged, bloody piece of metal is sticking out of his thigh. The conduit anchor retracts, stranding the henchmen. Shepard tries to walk, but his leg buckles. Anderson hands Shepard his pistol, and lifts Shepard's arm around his neck, supporting his leg. The two begin to shuffle towards the conduit beam."

3: "Designer Cutscene: Shepard limps to the conduit, and takes one final look around for other survivors. Seeing none, he enters the beam and is transported to the citadel."

4: "Shepard regains consciousness. He's bloody, and obviously badly injured. The Reaper is overhead, blasting away at retreating elements of Hammer. Shepard looks around: he's surrounded by burning vehicles and corpses, alone. He reaches for a syrette of medigel, but finds them broken or empty. Determined, he struggles to his feet, and starts limping towards the conduit." 

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 19 mars 2012 - 03:39 .

[slimgrin]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Mass Effect has an underlying theme of sacrifice? Really?

This is the first I've heard of it.

There is no shortage of religious analogy, which isn't always a bad thing, but in this game...

Modifié par slimgrin, 19 mars 2012 - 03:46 .

[N7Corsair]

For me, as for others ME3 was pretty much brilliant is effect and implementation. Yet it was too big in scope. Trying to boil a Galaxy wide war, in addition to all of the character relationships that Shepard has in to one game that lasts between 20-50 hours just seems to have been too much to do.

It truly embodies the saying " It's not about the destination, but the journey." Yet the destination feels like a vacum.

I noticed some odd graphical issues. Heads twisting in very uncomfortable ways, seeing/hearing NPC dialog without them being in the scene. Over all I thought the game was well executed in some very curcial ways. The dialog was fantastic, and some of the 'crew' scenes in the game for me are unforgettable and have a much better execution then the previous two titles, and love interest scenes.

It would be my game of the year...

except for the end...

Honestly I didn't and don't want a bed of roses ending. (Fan fiction is for that) ME3 is supposed to be the end of Shepard's story. I would be totally for seeing a really dark ending of Shepard going down in a blaze of glory while taking Harbinger with her (him). In doing so she (he) provides time for the battered Galactic fleet and the Normandy to regroup around Earth before the rest of the Reaper Fleets can react.

This i would be setting up for future Mass Effect games in continuing the fight against the Reapers and really uncovering the origins and truth behind those machines.

Shepard may be able to save Earth, but stop all of the Reapers that easy? I'd hope not. For me a Reaper is one nasty, evil, intelligent enemy. One thats worth continuing the fight against.

The ending as it is now feels as if it was slapped in to place as a lash up because BioWare just ran out of time.

I don't know how or even if BioWare plans on shaping DLC for ME3 from here. But I have to admit, the ending really felt...empty for me.

Modifié par N7Corsair, 19 mars 2012 - 04:57 .

[USS Cushing]

There were way too many plot holes that opened up from the ending especially when something happened in the Arrival DLC that makes the ending pretty hard to fathom how the developers overlooked their own lore in such an absurd way.