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[Fulken]

Meh, what can you expect out of a company that priorities money over their video games and the content inside of those games, especially the ending of ME3.


You know, I won't really vent on here but I just hope that all these devs and critis that praise this ending.. well, I hope your RL "stories" are as fruitless and as the miserable as the ending of ME3. For multiple years you've made sure I get emotionally attached to your game and the character in it, only to royaly **** it up the ass with the single most disappointing ending to any game I have played, When I say that, I really mean it. I have played bad games that had bad endings but for a game such as this, it's not acceptable.


Your customer base isn't a god damn dairy cow you can milk for money endlessly by providing ****ty content, only to FIX it later for 10$ more.


Shame on you Bioware. If I could, I'd kick you right in your nuts.

[Coloradosfinest]

Hell of a discussion Casey, hell of a discussion...

[Stealth3]

Casey is indoctrinated by EA

[USS Cushing]

Having an Unforgetable ending is fine but having an ending where I feel my choices were tossed out like garbage was and is not acceptable.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

USS Cushing wrote...

Having an Unforgetable ending is fine but having an ending where I feel my choices were tossed out like garbage was and is not acceptable.

^Pretty much the way I/I think others feel.

[Tanis1983]

[edited ] gah, that whole post contained spoliers ... moving it to the other forum

Modifié par Tanis1983, 19 mars 2012 - 04:14 .

[USS Cushing]

The game was great
but my ending would have my Shepard giving a certain character the bird and saying "come get some" and the galaxy saying "ditto" to the Reapers not the endings that we got forced to choose from

Modifié par USS Cushing, 19 mars 2012 - 04:24 .

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

USS Cushing wrote...

The game was great
but my ending would have my Shepard giving the star brat the bird and saying "come get some" and the galaxy saying "ditto" to the Reapers not the endings that we got forced to choose from

They needed an option D of doing nothing.

[USS Cushing]

or heck even fighting the sparkling character would have made me happier than having that pain in the neck dictate the terms of what would happen next

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

USS Cushing wrote...

or heck even fighting the sparkling character would have made me happier than having that pain in the neck dictate the terms of what would happen next

Leave him trying to explain the options , while you look around for a panel to shut his program down.Then from their you have edi calibrate the citadel/crucible pulse and bye bye reapers.

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 19 mars 2012 - 04:34 .

[XTR3M3]

Well, they sure got us talking as that seemed to be their intent. Some say that there is no such thing as bad press. I submit to you that in ME3, there is no such thing as a good ending. It feels like bad sex...you are all excited to get it, you get into it, you are enjoying the hell out of it, and then....wah,wah,waahhh! coitus interruptus! and now you feel really unsatisfied while eying the cold knob in the shower. Rather than try it again with that partner, you start actively looking for different ones. If BioWare decides to leave us with this unsatisfying ending, I will be looking for a new partner for my gaming fixes.

What I don't understand is how their writers can do such genius work up until the last minutes....did you run out of Red Bull in the break room? Can someone check please? It reminds me of timed tests in college where you have 20 seconds to finish filling out the answer bubbles and have 10 questions left unanswered so you just randomly mark the bubbles in a lame attempt to at least get something right.

Modifié par XTR3M3, 19 mars 2012 - 04:43 .

[USS Cushing]

yes computer panel rewireing via shotgun now that would be enjoyable

[clos]

This PR pandering to the masses has to stop. That you are listening doesn't tell us what you are going to do about it. It sounds like the way some people talk to their wives. "Sure honey, I understand. I'm sorry you feel that way." All along knowing they ain't planning to do a thing to change and keep on being sorry dogs.

Bioware, you are better than this. Don't be sorry dogs but tell us what your plan is already.

BTW, being sodomized will get people talking as well. It doesn't mean they like it, specially if they signed up for a night of enjoyable pleasure and instead end up getting sodomized in a gang rape of hundreds.

[agesilaj12]

Triology was fun to play. Gj Bioware. Ultimately, who cares what some spoiled group of fat boy whiners thinks .

[Necromonger Lordmarshal]

Fudge Bioware! Please fix the ending! Even you guys have to see it was stupid. The game is out now, don't think it is too late to change certain things. Now you got our money. Appease us by changing the horrible ending to one we can all agree to. Give us what you promised. If you ignore us, then we may ignore you in future projects. Don't lose your fan base over making quick money.

[USS Cushing]

Bioware/EA is waiting for most of us who are not happy with the endings to tired ourselves out so that eventually they will be able to sweep this entire thing under the rug and forget it and won't have to worry about fix the endings

[HomeSlixe]

d20Dark wrote...

I just finished ME3! I have to be frank and say that I was shi++ting a brick because there was SO MUCH DRAMA on the interwebs about the horrible ending to the game/trilogy and how SO many people are SO pissed off. I was playing toward the end with one hand thinking "THIS IS SO AWESOME!" and on the other "WHEN is the shi++y part?!?!!" and I was genuinely tense throughout the last 2 hours. When I got to the end- I was LITERALLY on the edge of my seat (ask my wife who thought it was funny to see) and as it wrapped up... Oh My God! I was sitting there... I was so emotional. I didn't even know how to process it all. It was brilliant. It was the single most thought provoking and amazing endings to anything I've read/watched or played. I won't spoil anything for anyone- but it was brilliant. As a fan of the games and the books and the comics... I couldn't have asked for anything more. As a lover of sci fi and sci fi movies... my mind is blown. I can not even begin to anticipate what comes next in the next series. How the hell do you top that and continue that story??? Just brilliant.
Do Not Change A Thing.

You sir have inspired me to continue playing despite interiment spoilers of DOOM!

[MikeC99]

To d20Dark - I'm happy for you; and I'm not being sarcastic, I'm genuinely happy for you. I had also read the drama about the ending and when I got to it, I thought it was beautiful. As a cinematic piece it was heroic, epic, bittersweet - everything that it seems Bioware wanted it to be. But as I said in an earlier post, emotional reaction requires belief at it's foundation. I played the ending scene - mine was synthesis version - for my wife, who thought it was great. But she had no emotional investment or background context to provide the framework for interpreting the ending. The fact is, despite its beauty, it's a flawed ending. Badly flawed, not least of the reasons being that at this 'end of all things' it pretty much doesn't matter what your choices were to get to that point, the consequences don't arrive. Not in the same way that they did for ME2 in particular. Not in the way that had been such a central part of the communication from Bioware pre-release. Not in the way that this wonderful ME3 story, superbly written in part, genuinely deserving of praise as a great example of how to craft an interactive story, lead us through to that end point. As I've also said before, then to have non-sequiters and plot holes in the final scenes - well, the hundreds of pages of posts are ample evidence of the effect of the loss of faith this caused.

So, I'm happy for you, and jealous - I wish I had felt that way. I still wish I felt that way; and I begrudge you nothing. But I'd be interested if you came back after replaying to another ending ... let us know if anything changes for you.

[Gosia]

HomeSlixe wrote...

d20Dark wrote...

I just finished ME3! I have to be frank and say that I was shi++ting a brick because there was SO MUCH DRAMA on the interwebs about the horrible ending to the game/trilogy and how SO many people are SO pissed off. I was playing toward the end with one hand thinking "THIS IS SO AWESOME!" and on the other "WHEN is the shi++y part?!?!!" and I was genuinely tense throughout the last 2 hours. When I got to the end- I was LITERALLY on the edge of my seat (ask my wife who thought it was funny to see) and as it wrapped up... Oh My God! I was sitting there... I was so emotional. I didn't even know how to process it all. It was brilliant. It was the single most thought provoking and amazing endings to anything I've read/watched or played. I won't spoil anything for anyone- but it was brilliant. As a fan of the games and the books and the comics... I couldn't have asked for anything more. As a lover of sci fi and sci fi movies... my mind is blown. I can not even begin to anticipate what comes next in the next series. How the hell do you top that and continue that story??? Just brilliant.
Do Not Change A Thing.

You sir have inspired me to continue playing despite interiment spoilers of DOOM!

You know I’m actually a great fan of SF and Fantasy literature, that’s my specialty ,
I’m an academic teacher, and one thing I know for sure is that for every SF or
Fantasy story to be successful you have to have coherent plot, well thought
story line and universum, and a resolving ending (unless you are Philip K. Dick’s
fan for instance, but his endings are a masterpiece in a different way) . And
here, in ME 3, this coherence is absolutely gone in the ending, so many gaps,
so many unknowns, so many new things introduced (in the ending sic!) as if
somebody run out of ideas in the end and told his kid to think of something to
wrap it up in the end. No, the ending isn’t good by any SF standards.

Modifié par Gosia, 19 mars 2012 - 06:16 .

[Blablabla79]

Alamandorious wrote...

....

I would like to point out, concerning the mass relays, that in the ME3 secondary codex you can find an entry that mentions that when a mass relay is 'ruptured', that the energy unleashed ruins all terrestrial planets in its solar system.

So...it's not just in the DLC, and it's not just because of that being an Alpha relay...the entry makes no distinction.  And it makes no distinction between different 'types' of causes for relay explosions.

Also the ending video shows you the size of the explosions as seen from far outside the Milky Way. The sphere of light send out by the explosion at one point has a diameter of around 5000 lightyears. So the photons are evenly spread over the surface of a sphere with a radius of 2500 lightyears and still there are enough to make the sphere visible. Watching the ending makes it clear that any survivors are just another plothole. 

[Gigaheart]

I fail to understand what he was trying to say. How and when BW is going to fix endings man?

[Funker Shepard]

USS Cushing wrote...

Having an Unforgetable ending is fine but having an ending where I feel my choices were tossed out like garbage was and is not acceptable.

I mean, I don't even think it's that unforgettable. I can't figure out what the details between the three endings were, and it's only been a week since I last touched the game. I just think that it managed to be both unpleasant and bad (quality-wise) at the same time.

[gh0st wh1sp3r]

They removed my post from the Mass Effect Facebook page after it had too many, "Likes."

"Are you guys seriously happy with the ending?

It was rushed and reduced to nothing but a number score and different colored explosions.

No, I don't need a rainbow and bunnies Disney ending, but I wanted to see the epilogue of the characters I worked so hard to save.

I wanted to see the Terminus Fleets led by Aria T'Loak. I wanted to see her smirk as she takes revenge on TIM for taking over Omega when you assault the Cerberus HQ.

I wanted to see the races that are so mysteriously absent throughout the series. The Volus, the Elcor, the Hanar, what are they doing to help the war effort? I saved the Kwunu. So I wanted to see a freakin' Volus dreadnought in action!

The Rachni. They have ships that have been talked about, but we never get to see one! We don't even see a normal Rachni worker in-game.

Show us the different races working hard on the Crucible instead of talking about it. Show us Asari, Humans, Turians, Rachni, Kasumi Goto, Salarians, etc. working hard on building it!

Show us the Elcor flotilla, the Volus Bombing Fleet, the Batarian fleet that I spared Balak to get.

I worked throughout every game to unify the galaxy, yet I just hear about it. You guys seriously couldn't chuck in another 5 minutes of 10-second clips of all these assets?!

You couldn't show me Shiala and the Zhu's Hope colonists fighting on Earth? I worked my BUTT off getting enough Paragon points to save Zhu's Hope!

You couldn't show me the Eden Prime Support team from the DLC?

You couldn't show me the Biotic Company I saved at Grissom Academy? Not even a 10-second clip of Jack directing her students to shield soldiers?

You couldn't show me Samara tearing a Banshee apart with her biotics, then looking down at it with a look that says, "That was for Rila."?

You couldn't show me Grunt barking orders to a group of Krogan that now respect him for surviving on Utukku?

You couldn't show me Jacob and Miranda and the Ex-Cerberus forces that I collected assisting the united effort to fight the Reapers?

You couldn't show me Tali giving orders to her new Geth allies, since I worked to save them both and bring peace to their peoples? Not even a short clip of a Geth Prime jumping in the way to save her?

You couldn't show me a clip of a Geth battleship taking heavy fire and a Quarian ship coming to its rescue?

You couldn't show me Krogan soldiers coming to the aid of a small Salarian & Turian platoon surrounded on all sides? I wanted to see Wrex help a Salarian up from the ground and nod his head like, "we're all in this together."

You couldn't show me Zaeed Massani coordinating different bands of mercenaries working together?

You couldn't show me Major Kirrahe and the STG setting an explosive trap for Reaper forces?

You couldn't show me Drell fighting under orders from their Hanar "masters"?

You couldn't show me David Archer using his savantry to control some sort of defensive machine while his brother, Dr. Archer, watches him with a look/smile that says, "this is where David belongs."?

I'm not upset at the ending choices. I'm upset at the complete and utter lack of a difference any of the above choices I made had on the overall storyline. There's no sense of closure. I don't need full on action scenes of this. Just a brief clip of each. Don't tell me that this is not graphically feasible. Anyone who can read this and say, "Nah. I didn't want to see any of that," has no connection to the story, is suffering from psychosis, or is a vehement fanboy/fangirl whom will defend Bioware without question.

Like I said, I'm not disappointed by a bittersweet ending. I'm disappointed by how generic of an ending I got. Even if there's some crazy DLC loophole that explains, "Oh, well Shep was indoctrinated and none of this happened," (which is like making people buy the ending of every DVD movie and not including it.) I wanted closure.

Do I sound entitled? Maybe. But this isn't a movie. I don't sit and watch things happen. I change the story how I see fit. I choose to save Ashley or Kaidan. I choose to make Shepard a Paragon or Renegade. I am INVOLVED in my game. So yes, I DESERVE TO HAVE CONTROL OF HOW MY GAME ENDS. Instead, I got a color choice and watching Joker fly away for some unexplained reason.

If I knew how this would end, I would've said something to Casey Hudson as he signed my copy at the West Hollywood GameStop after standing in line for hours. No, the standing isn't a huge ordeal, but I'd like to have looked him in the eye as I asked him, "Is this really the story you wanted to tell us?" and got a straight answer instead of, "We listen to you, according to this press release - see?"

"

Do you disagree?

[TrveOmegaSlayer]

I don't complain about the ending.
But as a PS3 owner I feel to complain about the beginning, or lack of it for PS3 owners.

-Mass Effect is a trilogy, and every all the games should be available on the platform of choice without leaving the story crippled.

-PS3 owners don't have the chance to play the whole story and grow affection to characters.
An interactive comic is unfortunately not enough to understand what fighting a Reaper on the Citadel means or how much of a threat the Rachni species was, for example.

-The PS3 owners are very supportive of the franchise, buying almost 1 millions of copies of Mass Effect 2 at retailers (plus digital copies) and near half a million copies of Mass Effect 3 at retailers (plus digital copies) only in the first week.
Numbers that doesn't compare to the number of copies sold on XBOX360, but Mass Effect 2 was released WITHOUT Mass Effect 1 and 1 year after the release of Mass Effect 2.
Sales of Mass Effect 2 on PS3 close in on established and similar EA franchises on the PS3 like Dead Space. (During first week Mass Effect 3 moved more copies than Dead Space 2)

-A masterpiece is timeless, the release date doesn't matter, as the recent release of HD ports clearly shows.
PS3 gamers are usually a fanbase that doesn't rush to buy day one, but buys constantly and is fond of great games experiences.

-A complete trilogy could fuel the sales for Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3 since some gamers are on the fence on the idea of buying a game without knowing/playing the whole story. It's obvious that a minimum number of sales will be granted by the fanbase that bought Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3

-The game assets (voice-overs, translations, 3D models, soundtrack) and Engine is already up and working meaning not great investments from EA/Bioware, but turning out to be good profits.

-The eventual exclusives deals are not everlasting and expires.
Ninja Gaiden 2 was released on XBOX 360 published by Microsoft, but ended up on PS3 too.
The PC version of Mass Effect clearly shows on the box sleeve that the intellectual property of Mass Effect is copyrighted by EA International/Bioware

[chompipe]

Do you guys think he actually gives 2 cents about what we think? He's got our 60 dollars + what does he care if we like the ending or not. Ahh! but don't forget to buy that upcoming DLC, if you guys want to get their attention don't buy Bioware games anymore. I'm sure if we stop spending our money with them they'll make 5 different ending for ya.