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[Stronglav]

They owe us a normal ending!!!

[SwitchN7]

Bioware does not owe you or anybody else anything.The ending was genius and an obvious staging for a further DLC.And that's acceptable to me but IF that is not the case and we will get no closure what so ever EVEN VIA DLC Mr. Hudson we(myself for sure) will have to brake indoctrination and stop all further purchase of BIOWARE/EA products.I have already canceled my SWTOR subscription and delayed the purchase of my final DLC bits Overlord/Kasumi because..There is no point in replaying the franchise what so ever..No point.So we look forward to your resolution via DLC.Thank you.

Modifié par SwitchN7, 20 mars 2012 - 09:03 .

[ArthurBDD]

I'm profoundly glad this controversy blew up before I got around to buying the game. As it is, I'm in the position of being able to vote with my wallet in the most simple way possible: until there's a fix to the ending, I will not buy the game, full stop.

I would be knocked-on-my-rump astonished if I were the only person out there in this position.

[Gosia]

This is awesome and sums up what people want to do with ME 3 ending check this out guys:
http://lugoentertain...3ending/#!/Home
Hold the line!

[DVZ]

Will there be an alternate ending/epilogue DLC - yes or no?

A one word answer will end all rumour and speculation. Cut all the ambiguous PR essays and "wait and see, nudge nudge, wink wink" tweets. We just want a direct response that leaves no room for guess work. If "yes," great. I'll pay for it. Anyone who expects a full staff team of developers to work for free is out of their minds. If "no,"' fair enough. At least I can move on. That's real closure.

[Arivle]

Personally I think I want the "real ending" rather for money than free because if it will be free for just "we listened" PR stunt we can expect the same cheap, rushed out "solution" only in pink colors this time to shut us all up.

Bad things happen and I don't think BW pissed fans on purpose, rather they had to meet deadline/costs limit and thought "this will pass". Not nice but it happened and I'd rather see now the real epic ending living up to every player's desires and expectations, including mine (what simply means some *real* 16 logical and well-made endings, not just 16 different kisses).

And I will gladly pay even 10 euros for it, my Shepard is worth it. :-P

Modifié par Arivle, 20 mars 2012 - 10:07 .

[NorDee65]

Dear Mr Hudson,
Thank you and your colleagues for finally conversing with us, even if this is only  the larvae-state of what is possible. I understand the constraints that you have to work under and therefore shall hold onto my patience a little while longer. And while I do that I'd like to clarify what I would like you to address in the coming weeks (months, years?):

1) If the endings are as they are intended to be and shall remain so, then please elaborate on them. Explain to us, if you will, what their meaning is. Because, as is apparent not only on BSN but elswhere as well: we don't get it (well some might, but most don't seem to). And that is strange, as we come from all walks of life, from all over the world, the young and the not so young, those who are about to finish basic education to those who hold universitiy degrees, but most united in their confusion, frustation or sadness. And please do not wait too long.

2) If the endings are only a stepping stone towards the real endings, then I suggest april 1st as the perfect date to expand on that.

3) If you have miscalculated on gamers' reaction and, in a fit of contrition, want to change the endings, be our guest (suggestion are found elsewhere).

To my fellow forumites:

Thank you!

for trying to bring "order to chaos". It does not matter whether the theories and ideas presented here give all the answers, are indeed spot on or miss the mark completely. What matters is, that we have attempted to make sense of this. It has helped me through my moment of confusion, frustation and sadness (and in turn I was able to help others through theirs.) And that was what was nedded. And for the moment it must suffice.

[omegasama]

The argument that art cannot be changed have obviously never read art history or dealt with commissioners. I have, as I work with comics and does illustrations.

Art is changed all the time in order to please the customer. If they do not like the product you will have to redo it. It is how it has always been and how it will always be. Many of the paintings being brought up as examples have been changed at some point because the person paying for it didn't like it.

So get over yourselves. Art is a business like any other. Not magic fairy good times.

We are the consumers in this, and I hope to the spirits that BW/EA realise that.

[GoddessLunatic]

 I think we can all agree that we highly respect the team at Bioware for the great games they have created. I even think that the ending we got has its place. HOWEVER. There should at least be the option of a happy ending. It may not be as dramatic (though I fail to understand how a terrible war and millions of deaths are not dramatic enough), hell, it may not be as artistically refined, but with all the dedication we have shown to these games and this developer throughout the years, have we not earned ourselves the possibility of sitting on a beach with Garrus? Rebuilding Tali's homeworld? Having Kaidan's babies? I love Shepard and the Mass Effect galaxy so freaking much. I just can't bear the thought that there is no life to be had for our beloved commander after everything he/she has been through. 
Look, I paid a lot of money for my Collector's edition. I would without hesitation pay for an alternate ending DLC. If you are happy with your ending, Bioware, by all means keep it, but please, please, please give us the option to be happy too. 

[SwitchN7]

Above you will watch a 20 min video of pure awesomeness about our Commander's Indoctrination.
Now...I find it very sad or not maybe? That the community has to come together and give any form of explanation on what the heck is going on due to the lack of it on Bioware's account.The next logical step is what? That we must give ourselfs the ending we really deserve after 9 years(in my case) of purchasing Bioware products? Not 1 more.And it is in our "power" to convince everyone we can to avoid purchasing anything else so it is for their own safety when they avoid a kick in Le Quad.

Modifié par SwitchN7, 20 mars 2012 - 10:35 .

[BowlerBen]

Hope they can explain something about the endings. Without spoiling, I would say they are making us wait for more shepard adventures.

[dirtnasty91]

I just want to say that the ME series has been amazing. And though the ending of ME3 was not what i hoped it would be it was still an amazing story leading up to it and no matter what it will always be my favorite game of all time. I just wish that i could have settled down and have some lil blue children with Liara and have uncle Garrus come visit us and see whose a better shot once and for all. So thank you Bioware for creating three of the best games i have ever played. Also a batarian squadmate would be awesome

[Darth Kreia]

 Many thanks to Casey for his continuous involvement. I am sure that if a solution exists and it is monetary viable BioWare will do everything to alleviate the fanbase. I have played over 500 hours with Commander Shepard through out the three games and the ME3 ending does not bother me that much. I chose synthesis and ignoring the plot holes (certain things do not match given the companions I had in the final push) I could understand what BioWare meant with it. 

Case's message is pretty clear. The ending was their choice and it had the effect they intended. I am sure everyone had a unicorn ending in mind. I am a huge Tali fan so you can imagine what the ending I wanted is .

[Strik3r889123]

Casey Hudson says:
"We always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending—to do otherwise would betray the agonizing decisions Shepard had to make along the way. "

why?!

I've always seen as a game based on the HOPE (well ok, also the sacrifice  but.... I think shepard was sacrificed enough in these 3 games)
and BETRAY HIS SACRIFICES if after all the difficult decisions he has taken, his story not have a happy ending!
i want a hope for him and his love (yeah i love happy ending, not the DEPRESSIVE ending)

MORE choice, MORE hope!

all this is only a dream
indoctrination theory !!!!

Modifié par Strik3r889123, 20 mars 2012 - 11:48 .

[batlin]

I like how he completely avoids how his comments about players' choices making a difference in the ending were completely false.

but no, "Everything's great! I'm really proud of the ending! We appreciate your feedback! Thanks for your money!"

[Gosia]

GoddessLunatic wrote...

 I think we can all agree that we highly respect the team at Bioware for the great games they have created. I even think that the ending we got has its place. HOWEVER. There should at least be the option of a happy ending. It may not be as dramatic (though I fail to understand how a terrible war and millions of deaths are not dramatic enough), hell, it may not be as artistically refined, but with all the dedication we have shown to these games and this developer throughout the years, have we not earned ourselves the possibility of sitting on a beach with Garrus? Rebuilding Tali's homeworld? Having Kaidan's babies? I love Shepard and the Mass Effect galaxy so freaking much. I just can't bear the thought that there is no life to be had for our beloved commander after everything he/she has been through. 
Look, I paid a lot of money for my Collector's edition. I would without hesitation pay for an alternate ending DLC. If you are happy with your ending, Bioware, by all means keep it, but please, please, please give us the option to be happy too. 

Yeah I'm also hoping for it

[Getorex]

BowlerBen wrote...

Hope they can explain something about the endings. Without spoiling, I would say they are making us wait for more shepard adventures.

There are no more Shepard Adventures.  He/She is dead.  All endings are death.  There can be no more Shepard adventures. 

They killed Mass Effect, they killed ME3.  It's over and so is Bioware (for a LOT of people).

My sister and father are returning their ME3 games for refund.  I have exchanged mine for another game entirely and it is NOT a Bioware title. 

[Getorex]

Amazon.com will refund you for ME3 if you return it. Origin/EA Games will allow you to exchange Mass Effect 3 for any other game in their lineup of equal value.

Do it. Abandonment and loss of money for Bioware says a hell of a lot more than complaints and polls in forums.

[Getorex]

Darth Kreia wrote...

 Many thanks to Casey for his continuous involvement. I am sure that if a solution exists and it is monetary viable BioWare will do everything to alleviate the fanbase. I have played over 500 hours with Commander Shepard through out the three games and the ME3 ending does not bother me that much. I chose synthesis and ignoring the plot holes (certain things do not match given the companions I had in the final push) I could understand what BioWare meant with it. 

Case's message is pretty clear. The ending was their choice and it had the effect they intended. I am sure everyone had a unicorn ending in mind. I am a huge Tali fan so you can imagine what the ending I wanted is .

Casey is full of it.  It did NOT have the ending they intended.  They did not intend the returned games, the exchanges, the loss of fan faith, the loss of all trust.  They thought THEY would get ponies and unicorns but instead they got what they sowed...a knife in the back.

[Getorex]

SwitchN7 wrote...

Bioware does not owe you or anybody else anything.The ending was genius and an obvious staging for a further DLC.And that's acceptable to me but IF that is not the case and we will get no closure what so ever EVEN VIA DLC Mr. Hudson we(myself for sure) will have to brake indoctrination and stop all further purchase of BIOWARE/EA products.I have already canceled my SWTOR subscription and delayed the purchase of my final DLC bits Overlord/Kasumi because..There is no point in replaying the franchise what so ever..No point.So we look forward to your resolution via DLC.Thank you.

In YOUR  opinion it was "genius" (and no doubt in the self-worshipping Hudson's mind too).  Your opinion is no better, no more valid, than the >90% who HATE the ending.  You are entitled to YOUR opinion but you don't get to apply it to 90%+ of the other people.  

Oh and they DO "owe us".  See, we are the customers that they SERVE.  Customers do not serve companies, companies (that want to continue to exist) serve customers.  Hence, they OWE us what WE tell them they owe us.  

My sis and father took their money back from bioware (they returned their games for refund).  I sent my money to a different developer by exchanging mine for another NON-Bioware title.  

Suck it Hudson.

Modifié par Getorex, 20 mars 2012 - 12:22 .

[die-yng]

I'm not gonna deny the quality of ME3, I think some parts of the game were lacking (journal, the Citadel sidequests, not enough choices during some conversations etc..). Overall the game was great and Mr. Hudson is right to be proud of it.

Yet the ending clearly didn't work as expected, for 90% of the gamers, regardless of how professional gaming journalists or reviewer see this, fans don't like it.

In this day and age, it would be great if we didn't have to wait months, until we'll know whether the ending issue will be fixed.

[Getorex]

die-yng wrote...

I'm not gonna deny the quality of ME3, I think some parts of the game were lacking (journal, the Citadel sidequests, not enough choices during some conversations etc..). Overall the game was great and Mr. Hudson is right to be proud of it.

Yet the ending clearly didn't work as expected, for 90% of the gamers, regardless of how professional gaming journalists or reviewer see this, fans don't like it.

In this day and age, it would be great if we didn't have to wait months, until we'll know whether the ending issue will be fixed.

Don't wait.  Return the game for refund OR exchange it for something else and send a LOUD AND CLEAR message to Hudson.  If he wishes to keep his company, he will produce.  You can always come back later and pay for the game and play it...after the ending is fixed.  You need to jump on this sooner rather than later because after much longer the refund/exchange will be out of range.

I will buy Mass Effect 3 again in the future (I exchanged it for a NON-Bioware title) only when/if the ending is fixed.  Bonus is it will cost less than...probably only $20.  Double plus good.

[Farbautisonn]

Bioware is in it for the money. If you want to make your point hit them where it hurts. The money. They promised us they were "listening" with DA2. Same with Deception. And nothing came of it. We tried dialogue. Now its time to try something else. Get your money back if you can. If nothing else it will ensure that the companies you bought them from will not order more units home. If the orders dry up, bioware doesnt make money. If you play TOR, give that up too. State why you cancelled and then find another studio to support. This one doesnt seem to care anymore.

[Getorex]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Bioware is in it for the money. If you want to make your point hit them where it hurts. The money. They promised us they were "listening" with DA2. Same with Deception. And nothing came of it. We tried dialogue. Now its time to try something else. Get your money back if you can. If nothing else it will ensure that the companies you bought them from will not order more units home. If the orders dry up, bioware doesnt make money. If you play TOR, give that up too. State why you cancelled and then find another studio to support. This one doesnt seem to care anymore.

This.  Sing it from the mountain tops.