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[thelovebat]

Care to comment Mr. Hudson?

Modifié par thelovebat, 20 mars 2012 - 01:09 .

[Alethir]

Even if Bioware make new happy ending DLC with Shepard sitting on a beach sipping cocktails and watching Miranda, Ashley and Liarra splashing about in bikini's it would still have the same amount of outrage as there currently is. This whole indoctrination theory is stupid as well and is nothing more than blind hope by people who don't understand the ending or just refuse to accept it ended the way it did. The ending was genius, the perfect balance of closure and at the same time allowing YOU, the people who are complaining, to ultimately decide what happens next via your imagination. If they had a definitive end, full closure people would just moan that they were pigeon holed even more than they already are and it didn't end how "their" Shepard would have done it. The "plot holes" people keep refering too can easily be explained (as I have done in previous posts) or left to your imagination. Where was the Normandy going at the end? That's really the only part of the end that didn't make sense/wasn't explained.

[raepox]

Come on guys! Have some respect for those guys! They also spend a lot of months,years to build this game!!!! I would like an other end as well. But even if nothing changes i would still say this, I LOVE BIOWARE!!!!!! And i hope they handle this fast, the faster they fixed this the faster i have a new Bioware product! LOVE HUDSON AND HES WORK<3

[alayyubi]

 Until an extension comes out, I find multiplayer aspect very interesting and if Bioware adds more event like last weekend (maybe suicide mission?), it more than make up the waiting. I hv faith that Bioware will get this right! 

[Getorex]

raepox wrote...

Come on guys! Have some respect for those guys! They also spend a lot of months,years to build this game!!!! I would like an other end as well. But even if nothing changes i would still say this, I LOVE BIOWARE!!!!!! And i hope they handle this fast, the faster they fixed this the faster i have a new Bioware product! LOVE HUDSON AND HES WORK<3

You will be holding your breath all the way up to the same ending as Shep got in the BEST CASE ending: deaders.  

Series is over.  Game is over.  DLC is over.  ME1 and ME2 ruined. 

[DonJuan2000]

Alethir wrote...

 The ending was genius, the perfect balance of closure and at the same time allowing YOU, the people who are complaining, to ultimately decide what happens next via your imagination. .....  left to your imagination. .

The ending was stupid for much of us, Space Harry Potter and what he say is nosense, no way.

Said that, if i wanna use all this immagination, maybe I dont play a VG, I read a book or much better I write one or a game scripting, or I write a screenplay and so on.

[die-yng]

DonJuan2000 wrote...

Alethir wrote...

 The ending was genius, the perfect balance of closure and at the same time allowing YOU, the people who are complaining, to ultimately decide what happens next via your imagination. .....  left to your imagination. .

The ending was stupid for much of us, Space Harry Potter and what he say is nosense, no way.

Said that, if i wanna use all this immagination, maybe I dont play a VG, I read a book or much better I write one or a game scripting, or I write a screenplay and so on.

You can't deny the truth in that.

I want to feel satisfied at the end of a game, if I'm not I play it again, until I reach an ending where I can be satisfied with. If I don't even get to know what happens to everybody, I'm disappointed.

[MERLIN1]

HI i have to say that the trilogi was fantastik but for me the mass efect 2 was much beter the umber 3 was almost half as number 2 and it wasnt so good it had les companions and it gave us less oportunities and choices especialy in the romance sector. The wordt part of all was the ending because what ever you do ether you take choice number 1 to destry the repers or choise number 2 to control them you still die and the mass releys get destroied it was not a good ending for the trilogy it should give us a third choce wewre shepard lives hapily ever after. wer have been fighting and runing the hole galxy for 3 games and yet we still die. For me that was the worst part of all it reminds me the bad ending in dragon age 2.

[Vilegrim]

Surprisingly he quotes reviewers that rely on EAs continuing custom and hence give good reviews.

[DonJuan2000]

Vilegrim wrote...

Surprisingly he quotes reviewers that rely on EAs continuing custom and hence give good reviews.

the game itself is very nice for me, but it just unfinished and anyway the ending sucks, expecially from lithbeam, all cittadel stuff is a nosense.

And still miss huge space battle, use war assets, task assignement and consequences and so on.....

Modifié par DonJuan2000, 20 mars 2012 - 02:07 .

[Getorex]

DonJuan2000 wrote...

Vilegrim wrote...

Surprisingly he quotes reviewers that rely on EAs continuing custom and hence give good reviews.

the game itself is very nice for me, but it just unfinished and anyway the ending sucks, expecially from lithbeam, all cittadel stuff is a nosense.

And still miss huge space battle, use war assets, task assignement and consequences and so on.....

All that war asset stuff, the EMS, the galactic readiness level was all diversion.  It had you squirreling away on useless nonsense.  It was all used as a spacer to separate the beginning of the game from the death at the end. 

[Basher of Glory]

Fawx9 wrote...

That was an amazingly large amount of words that deflected the issue entirely and touched on basically nothing.

He could have simply said "We're listening" and be done with it.

This.

Nothing more.

[MarcosPesic]

I am pretty upset right now... The ending DESTROIED the entire game. it´s horrible... it´s a insult to all the FANS.

I played ME1 like 4 times... played ME2 5 times... won´t be playing ME3 anymore...

IF YOU REALLY LISTEN... make a DLC for us...

[Gyspy Jive]

It's a repeated pattern. Both DA2 and ME3 left huge and open plot holes at the end. With that ambiguity, EA really hoped to rein us all in for the DLC slaughter. And the corporate beast keeps on rolling.

[Desertborn]

Be easier to make ourselves heard if, as a group, our spelling wasn't at the same level as a slightly sober hobo...

Be that as it may, I had no problem with the death ending(s) and I can cope with the relay issues, but I really didn't like the Normandy fleeing a winning battle and seeing a squad mate that supposedly got wasted along with the rest of "Hammer" step out....

[ile_1979]

alayyubi wrote...

 Until an extension comes out, I find multiplayer aspect very interesting and if Bioware adds more event like last weekend (maybe suicide mission?), it more than make up the waiting. I hv faith that Bioware will get this right! 

I was thinking along the same lines, but then it came across my mind i don't really enjoy multiplayer for prolonged periods of time. So, i'm just gonna skip this game for the time being...

[JironGhrad]

Getorex wrote...

raepox wrote...

Come on guys! Have some respect for those guys! They also spend a lot of months,years to build this game!!!! I would like an other end as well. But even if nothing changes i would still say this, I LOVE BIOWARE!!!!!! And i hope they handle this fast, the faster they fixed this the faster i have a new Bioware product! LOVE HUDSON AND HES WORK<3

You will be holding your breath all the way up to the same ending as Shep got in the BEST CASE ending: deaders.  

Series is over.  Game is over.  DLC is over.  ME1 and ME2 ruined. 

*spoiler*

He doesn't die if you get the best case ending. Just saying.

[Arivle]

JulyAyon wrote...

Arivle wrote...

Personally I think I want the "real ending" rather for money than free because if it will be free for just "we listened" PR stunt we can expect the same cheap, rushed out "solution" only in pink colors this time to shut us all up.

Bad things happen and I don't think BW pissed fans on purpose, rather they had to meet deadline/costs limit and thought "this will pass". Not nice but it happened and I'd rather see now the real epic ending living up to every player's desires and expectations, including mine (what simply means some *real* 16 logical and well-made endings, not just 16 different kisses).

And I will gladly pay even 10 euros for it, my Shepard is worth it. :-P

...mmmmh, meanwhile they love you for being the perfect consumer and before you know it they'll try to charge you 10 euros for every replay of an infiltrator, adept, asari, drell, soldier...and every 16 logical endings possible, do the math yourself and you can see i just gave them the perfect excuse to carry on. highway robbery shoot....

I expected someone will come up with argument like this. :-) But I see it otherwise. I "vote" with my money and I do it in both ways, good and bad. I don't regret my money spent on ME3 _even_ with this ending, because it was a cool game I had lot of fun with. However! Thanks to this "ending" I reconsidered my original decision to buy every single story-based DLC as an additional Bioware support (because face it - no DLC ever was worth its price if you compare it to how much you get "per dollar" in the main game :-)). I always seen DLCs as a way to get small bonus and a way to say additional "thanks" by paying for it. But because of ME3 ending there will be no "bonus thanks" from me this time.

I'll buy no DLC unless there will be quality "ending-change" DLC, being it payed or not. That's my "money vote" again. If they do it, I'll forgive them. Because despite everything BW games are by FAR my most favourite games of ALL and I don't want to go against a great developer just because they mess up something or show a greed now and there. Yet alone to go against them more than against developers I barely even know of since I played like one or two random games from them and was so bored by it I dont even remember their names.

Modifié par Arivle, 20 mars 2012 - 03:02 .

[Alethir]

DonJuan2000 wrote...

Alethir wrote...

 The ending was genius, the perfect balance of closure and at the same time allowing YOU, the people who are complaining, to ultimately decide what happens next via your imagination. .....  left to your imagination. .

The ending was stupid for much of us, Space Harry Potter and what he say is nosense, no way.

Said that, if i wanna use all this immagination, maybe I dont play a VG, I read a book or much better I write one or a game scripting, or I write a screenplay and so on.

I guess thats the point I'm trying to make, people make stupid assumptions and outrage. Space Harry Potter? Lol now that makes no sense compared to what actually happened. The program/hologram at the end was the Catalyst. I can only assume that it took the form of the little boy in Shepard's dreams because that little boy symbolised what Shepard had been fighting for the entire time. This whole fan outrage is basically based on what they thought was going to happen (in their imaginations) and the fact that it wasn't what Bioware had intended to happen. If Bioware had made it any more clear cut and forced it to end in the way some of you guys want, it would just end up jerking everyone else who didn't imagine it would end that way. There was never going to be an ultimate happy ending where everything turns out fantastic, not in a full scale galactic war.

Nobody will ever be completely satisfied with whatever ending to a series such as this has so I can see why they ended the way they did, giving you a few choices and then leaving it up to you to ultimately imagine how everything turns out while also leaving the overall Mass Effect universe they have spent years creating open to add upon in the future.

[die-yng]

Alethir wrote...

DonJuan2000 wrote...

Alethir wrote...

 The ending was genius, the perfect balance of closure and at the same time allowing YOU, the people who are complaining, to ultimately decide what happens next via your imagination. .....  left to your imagination. .

The ending was stupid for much of us, Space Harry Potter and what he say is nosense, no way.

Said that, if i wanna use all this immagination, maybe I dont play a VG, I read a book or much better I write one or a game scripting, or I write a screenplay and so on.

I guess thats the point I'm trying to make, people make stupid assumptions and outrage. Space Harry Potter? Lol now that makes no sense compared to what actually happened. The program/hologram at the end was the Catalyst. I can only assume that it took the form of the little boy in Shepard's dreams because that little boy symbolised what Shepard had been fighting for the entire time. This whole fan outrage is basically based on what they thought was going to happen (in their imaginations) and the fact that it wasn't what Bioware had intended to happen. If Bioware had made it any more clear cut and forced it to end in the way some of you guys want, it would just end up jerking everyone else who didn't imagine it would end that way. There was never going to be an ultimate happy ending where everything turns out fantastic, not in a full scale galactic war.

Nobody will ever be completely satisfied with whatever ending to a series such as this has so I can see why they ended the way they did, giving you a few choices and then leaving it up to you to ultimately imagine how everything turns out while also leaving the overall Mass Effect universe they have spent years creating open to add upon in the future.

Just that a lot of people don't want any one special ending, but rather the many different endings we were told would be in the game.
What's an acceptable ending for one of my sShep's, might be abo****ely unacceptable for another.

I hate how this is forced upon us as the only available ending.

[die-yng]

did they just censor the word absolutely in my post?

[Getorex]

You know...as I ponder it a bit, the best version of the "Red" skittle ending would be ALMOST Ok with me because Shepard is clearly still alive in the rubble (after the "I love you" ghostly voice). The bizarro part gets to be the Normandy running away to who knows where with the people who were fighting next for the final fight. Cowards obviously bailed on me when I wasn't looking and left me with my dick in my hand. Nice! And Ash...my LI...she bailed too? What a sucker I was! Anyway, it gets depressing for real when the old geezer appears (stargazer) telling Shepard stories at the end on the same goofy planet they crash landed on. Clearly, the LIVING Shepard seen in the debris never made it to this Gilligan's Island world...and the 25 or so people who were on the Normandy had themselves a sex party and created a society of DEEPLY INBRED banjo-playing albino kids who make strangers squeel like pigs in the woods for fun. Shep's alive but he cannot get to wherever the hell these guys crashed because...no relays. THAT sucks almost as much as the non sequitur plot hole of EVERYONE BUT ME getting away in the Normandy.

Modifié par Getorex, 20 mars 2012 - 03:29 .

[Alethir]

die-yng wrote...

Alethir wrote...

DonJuan2000 wrote...

Alethir wrote...

 The ending was genius, the perfect balance of closure and at the same time allowing YOU, the people who are complaining, to ultimately decide what happens next via your imagination. .....  left to your imagination. .

The ending was stupid for much of us, Space Harry Potter and what he say is nosense, no way.

Said that, if i wanna use all this immagination, maybe I dont play a VG, I read a book or much better I write one or a game scripting, or I write a screenplay and so on.

I guess thats the point I'm trying to make, people make stupid assumptions and outrage. Space Harry Potter? Lol now that makes no sense compared to what actually happened. The program/hologram at the end was the Catalyst. I can only assume that it took the form of the little boy in Shepard's dreams because that little boy symbolised what Shepard had been fighting for the entire time. This whole fan outrage is basically based on what they thought was going to happen (in their imaginations) and the fact that it wasn't what Bioware had intended to happen. If Bioware had made it any more clear cut and forced it to end in the way some of you guys want, it would just end up jerking everyone else who didn't imagine it would end that way. There was never going to be an ultimate happy ending where everything turns out fantastic, not in a full scale galactic war.

Nobody will ever be completely satisfied with whatever ending to a series such as this has so I can see why they ended the way they did, giving you a few choices and then leaving it up to you to ultimately imagine how everything turns out while also leaving the overall Mass Effect universe they have spent years creating open to add upon in the future.

Just that a lot of people don't want any one special ending, but rather the many different endings we were told would be in the game.
What's an acceptable ending for one of my sShep's, might be abo****ely unacceptable for another.

I hate how this is forced upon us as the only available ending.

Maybe it's because I avoided a lot of what people were told about Mass Effect 3 before launch, so nothing was spoiled for myself. I haven't read anything from Bioware saying were going to put loads of completely different endings in to make everyone happy and I can't see how they would have been able to that without making the whole game weaker. Whoever said these things was either taken out of context or should appologise.They needed to tell a story, continue an overall existing story and at the same time wrap up everything in the last 2 games and I think they have done that amazingly well. I played through the first 2 again just in time to continue straight on when ME3 was released and everything I had done in the last 2 games came to a conclusion in this one. Nothing felt like it hadn't been answered or that I needed more closure. The entire 3rd game was basically one big ending to every choice I had made in the others, big and small. The ending scene itself was ending the overall story of Shepard. Regardless of whether you live or die it ultimately forced you to see the bigger picture and make a decision that would change the entire galaxy, leaving the aftermath up to you to decide (and open for Bioware to make more games in the future).