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I really appreciate Casey Hudson for posting this at all. Most of you sit on here and complain and when Bioware finally acknowledges the fans complaints he is attacked with statements like "this is a non-answer". No, it absolutely is an answer if you even bothered to read all of the article. You can take the statement about continuing Shepard's story in two ways: A) they may release DLC to fix the ending or B) it'll be in game content. I'd personally like to remain hopeful.

And before anybody bothers to call me a ****, I did not like the ending either. I thought that it was rushed and all your decisions led to were different colors. But do not complain when somebody who does not owe you an answer at all tries to quell your fears.

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ratzerman wrote...

I do thank Casey for responding, though. He didn't have to. I stand by my earlier comment, but I do appreciate the communication.


Oh yeah, definitely true. Thanks for saying something, Mr. Hudson.

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SilentWolfie wrote...

He wrote "the next year", does that mean that we have to wait 1 whole year before having something conclusive as to whether there will be a new ending (which there might not even be one)? Boycotting new bioware products till then.

No he said over the next year.

Which means you get more and more DLC over the next 12 months you can buy  to make you feel good and them richer.

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Darn you Casey whhy can't you personally call every fan?!


kidding. Glad he at least responded, its better than what most producers do.

#130
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Sometimes artists have to accept that their pet ideas suck.

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GeneralArrow wrote...

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys, this response is the best he can give without spoiling it for the people who haven't played it yet. If you wanted it to be specifically addressed to each and every individual complaint wait for DLC. This response is perfectly fine, and he's not deflecting anything. THE VERY FACT that they are taking time to respond to you is applauded in my opinion.


He didnt actually address anything, he just made a general mention of things. We already knew they were going to release DLC, the game tells you at the end they plan on releasing DLC. At this point, the whole spoilers thing is being used as an excuse to not really say anything. If they were really that concerned, they would release an official statement actually addressing the concerns about the ending, and post it on either of the spoiler sub-forums. I can understand the spoilers being an issue if released on a magazine or a twitter thread, everyone can read them, but the excuse falls apart when they dont release a statement on their spoiler forums. 

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franka_h wrote...

I really appreciate Casey Hudson for posting this at all. Most of you sit on here and complain and when Bioware finally acknowledges the fans complaints he is attacked with statements like "this is a non-answer". No, it absolutely is an answer if you even bothered to read all of the article. You can take the statement about continuing Shepard's story in two ways: A) they may release DLC to fix the ending or B) it'll be in game content. I'd personally like to remain hopeful.

And before anybody bothers to call me a ****, I did not like the ending either. I thought that it was rushed and all your decisions led to were different colors. But do not complain when somebody who does not owe you an answer at all tries to quell your fears.


Yeah...

Even though what he said was a lot of nothing. :pinched:

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 Oh yes, let's start disrespecting Bioware and each other now! :wizard:
Sometimes the slice of humanity on these forums makes me weep.

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"No Comment" would have saved everyone a lot of time and said about the same amount.

The ending was horribly implemented. It'd be fine even if they created a horrible depressing requiem for a dream style ending, as long as it was well implemented and lived up to the standard set by the series. Instead, we got a rushed and canned nonsensical conclusion.

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basically Casey is telling us in the nicest possible way...the game is what it is, it isn't going to change, live with it.

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READ THIS THREAD BIOWARE LOOK AT WHAT YOUR FANS WANT. NOT IGN OR NY TIMES BUT YOUR FANS WHO ARE DROPING NIN THE HUNDREDS, I HAVE 2 FRIENDS WHO DONT POST ON GAME FORUMS THAT ARE SO DISSAPOINTED THEY TRADED THIER COPYS IN AFTER ONLY 1 PLAY THROUGH.

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Esquin wrote...

Romantiq wrote...

I was ok with an ending. I never expected kittens and puppies at the end of these series. Sacrifices had to be made.


YOu have no idea what you're talking about. Kindly go educate yourself.

We don't want a happy ending. We want an ending that makes sense and gives us closure.


This, a thousand times. Thanks Casey for responding, regardless of how helpful his statement is, and thanks to the team for almost making three amazing games. However, there has still been nothing of substance put out by BioWare or EA. Until that time, I will reserve judgment. 

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 of course he says nothing.  He is the master of saying a bunch of useless crap.

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I reiterate my previous post. ME2 wasn't done in my mind until they announced "The Arrival" to be the last DLC. The same goes for ME3. I want a better ending, but I expected many DLCs to add to ME3's story.

As a player of ToR, BioWare has CONSISTENTLY responded to player feedback and implemented it. BioWare and Blizzard seem to be the only two game companies that truly respect their players.

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NovinhaShepard wrote...

 Oh yes, let's start disrespecting Bioware and each other now! :wizard:
Sometimes the slice of humanity on these forums makes me weep.

Yeah lets write some nice casey hudson  romance fan fic for the romance section instead.........

Modifié par Darji, 17 mars 2012 - 02:30 .


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And this answers... nothing. Thank you Casey you opened my eyes

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This is all we want to know:

Will there be a DLC/expansion pack that is going to address the inconclusive ending we got?

Just circle YES or NO

That is all we want to know. It's that simple.

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After Reading this post from Casey Hudson it is apparent to me that this is nothing but an attempt to disarm and calm down the massive amounts of Negative feedback from the Betrayed Fans. We expected Damage control and this is it! DO NOT GIVE IN. Hold The Line. Be damn sure that they listen to our grievances. The vague nature of this letter can mean anything without promising a dang thing.

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I really hope they don't cave into this hysteria.

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This was somewhat disappointing, I expected more from the title.

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      Well I guess I'll finally make my thoughts known since I finished the game on the 8th and just been reading the replies, after taking two days away from it all as the ending just made go wtf. Yes I've played since 07 with ME then 2 and now 3. Beat 3 twice now. Even got the cut scene after the normandy and the crew coming out of it. Which leads me to think it has to be indoctination, and when that scene comes up its sheppard waking up after being blasted by harbinger in the rubble and the last 5 mins where all in sheppards mind. Overall I loved the game, I could not stand the ending. As there are a lot of open holes like how the normandy was where it was, how in the hell did the LI go from with me to on Normandy. And a slew of others including that kid who looks exactly like the end being w/e it is. And the entire time Sheppard seem to be the only one that pays it any attention. Then take the def by the game of indoctrination and the ending + that new scene after the normandy just prior to the credits as well as the kid and just yells indoctrinated and possibly breaking it since I would assume Harbinger would think sheppard = dead and broke off connection which in turn aloud sheppard to break out of it and thus.

     Anyways back to playing some other game. At this point replay or even bothering with Multiplayer seems rather a moot point at this point. Would I of liked a happy ending that zips 10 years later or 30 years to old man / old woman with kids kinda sheppard and theri LI would of been cool. I would even settle for a final death no hidden scences nothing and maybe its the LI telling the story to their kid or to the ones that survived remembering what happened years later. But atleast it would be closer and a final page to the book so to speak.

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Speculating over Bioware's future intents will not bring them new ideas. It's easier to rant than to suggest ideas. As Mr. Casey's message asked : where do we go from there?

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"So we designed Mass Effect 3 to be a series of endings to key plots and storylines, each culminating in scenes that show you the consequences of your actions"

The problem is that you didn't. Not only does your comment manage to note the existence of fan discontent and then proceed to do nothing but blow your own trumpet instead of actually addressing the issue, but you seem to have a complete disconnect as to what the issue actually is. You spent years promising that the ending would be a result of our choices, but it simply is not. Most of the possible outcomes are simply identical. You even ignored the player's choice of Human Ambassador in order to shoe-horn in your coup story-line!

All but straight up confessing that the opinions of the reviewers (which EA likely paid for/gave free goods to) are more important than the opinions of the fans has also left you with a fantastically large bullet-shaped hole in your foot.

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I'm glad to finally hear some kind of response... (Props to Casey for that.)

But I definitely got the impression that he believes the criticism of the ending is only coming from "some of our most passionate fans..." which seems to be code for "the lunatic fringe."

I played through the series since day one... I held onto my saves. I pre-ordered ME2 and ME3. I believed in BioWare. I trusted them with a $200 investment. Then, in the last hour - they made a fool out of me. That's not an experience I'm going to rush to repeat.

-Signed Joe, "a member of the lunatic fringe."

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ctconnors wrote...

I reiterate my previous post. ME2 wasn't done in my mind until they announced "The Arrival" to be the last DLC. The same goes for ME3. I want a better ending, but I expected many DLCs to add to ME3's story.

As a player of ToR, BioWare has CONSISTENTLY responded to player feedback and implemented it. BioWare and Blizzard seem to be the only two game companies that truly respect their players.

EVeryone does this for a MMO and expecially Biooware does this because SWotor players are getting less and lesser. They needed to react or it will be done and f2P in less that 12 months.


And no Bioware is listening to no one. It was the same with DA2 they did not listen one bit. Not after the first infos, not after the demo, not even after the game was released. And it is the same with ME3. They cut a character from a short selction of partymembers in the first place, they used stockphotos for one of ME's "hottest" mystery and secret.

And now they milk you with more and more DLC. And you people will happily buy it anyway.

If you want developer that actually listen to their fans. Got to CDRED. They listen to their fans and feedback, they give you DLC for FREE. They dont bind you on something like Origin. And they actually have the guts to answer honestly when they did something fans really did not like.

Damn I am sooo glad that Bioware does not have the Baldurs Gate license. SO atleast we can have hope for the new version.

Modifié par Darji, 17 mars 2012 - 02:31 .