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[warlorejon]

alrdy talked 4 friends out of getting me3.wont play it again, had 10 chars but why bother to see different colored lights

[Elyoki]

Although the game left me with a sort of empty victory, and wishing there were more to it as well, this situation reminds me all too well of Sherlock Holmes. Fans were furious when Sherlock was killed and sent death threats and other hate mail to the author. His ending was exactly how he wanted it to be, but he wrote another book reviving Sherlock. Bioware is doing a great job in being open and willing to work on it. I appreciate this and wanted to give props.

[Trikun]

http://thatguywithth...ate-me3s-ending

Pretty much sums it up, I think.

[Aviticus]

I'm just posting here because I hope someone from BioWare hears me, the ending was fine. Leave it alone, everyone complaining are just whining about nothing. The story went well and the ending was appropriate in my opinion. I read many complaints and opinions, but I personally enjoyed the ending, it had an awesome classic sci-fi feel to it, and reminded me of Earth Abides by George Stewart. Don't give in to your community and make another ending, that's just silly, people should just respect your guys' story and how you chose to end it. It is your story, I think you guys did a great job. The game was great the series is great. If people want to change the ending feel free to go out and write some silly fanfic.
PS: please make an actual trailer for the movie Blasto

[Newnation]

MindKiLLeR007 wrote...

I have a question concerning Mordin Solus? Salarianets live about 40, and to it 37 or how he could invent genophage for 1300 to the described events??? there are 142 more mismatches in plots!!! I passed ME 1-2-3 several times and I do not understand screenwriters who so ridiculously and badly could make the operation!!!

He didn't work on the original genophage. He worked on the genophage modification because the krogans were starting to adapt to it. I hope that makes sense.

[ajaxbr]

Question: If Mass Effect 3 had no multiplayer, would people replay it as much as Mass Effect 2?

[Mdym]

Here is a simple tip for Bioware. People play video games for enjoyment, they want to feel good when they are done. Writing a depressing ending has nothing to do with art or artistic expression, but has everything to do with Bioware not caring in the slightest about the customer. I have to wonder who at Bioware actually thought these were the endings the players wanted, there is not one iota of evidence that any fans wanted the game and the 100's of hours spend to end this way. So basically Bioware wanted to craft a piece of "art" that nobody wants to hang on their wall or will be remembered, not something to be proud of. To make my point further, for example, when the Normandy crash lands your love interest in the game always walks out. Bioware for the sake of supossed art, makes sure you know that your Shephard will never see them again intentionally. Did Bioware really believe that is what fans wanted, because it sure was not good writing.

[Slapdaddy]

After reading quite a lot about what happened today, I feel like people are feeling resolution over nothing. Ray Muzyka just said they would be providing "clarity" on the current end to the game. I feel that this is a tremendous flaw on BWs part.

BioWare, you need to add another ending option to the game, or more ending options. Simply attempting to clarify the vagueness of what we have now will not be enough. There aren't just plotholes, there are logical errors as well. When there are logic errors present in such an ending to a game, the only real way to fix this logic error is to rewrite that error to make it logical for the character in question, ie telling the starchild to go die and writing an ending around that.

You don't need to heavily change the endings you already have - some simple character dialogue options should be tweaked, but nothing heavy. However, the addition of more endings to the game is what fans are really after and is what we really want.

[Atomic Waffle]

AlanC9 wrote...

Atomic Waffle wrote...
Second, I think it's a betrayal of the choices I made as a character to give us the end game choices you did. Those choices were no choices at all.

They weren't choices? We actually had more choices about the end-state of ME3 than we had in BG2 or KotOR (3 vs. 2; tie if you think  BG2 alignment counts.). And while DA:O has some variations in the ending, all DA:O endings are fundamentally the same.

To clarify, I mean the end game choices offered are so incredibly poor as not to be believed. You played ME2, right? There were a ton more options at the end of that game, depending on the choices you made. We can't post spoilers here, but there should have been many more options here, including a triumphant ending, not a paltry number of choices that all lead to a "bittersweet" ending. To steal from another guy here on the forums, Shepard is an epic hero, not a tragic hero. Epic heroes have epic endings.


BTW - I played KOTOR, too. And that ending was bogus as well. Revan doesn't get a whole lot of closure, IMHO.

Modifié par Atomic Waffle, 22 mars 2012 - 07:12 .

[Morbidity]

ebevan91 wrote...

Finally he speaks.

Props to him.

Also I care more about the bugs keeping me from doing every side mission than I do the ending.

Hell, I might as well request some DLC stuff and maybe others will see it and agree.

We need more hub worlds...

Illium DLC. What happened to Illium?

Omega DLC. Omega mentioned in game and I thought we'd actually get a mission on Omega but we didn't.

Personal missions for squad mates. Similar to loyalty missions in ME2, but maybe if you complete these missions, your squad mates will reward you for helping. Those missions made ME2 longer. ME3 was kinda lacking in the length department.

and the immersion dept because of these things.  I felt me3 lacked the amount of dialog the others had so I didn't reconnect as I should of.  It also didn't help that when I approached them, "commander" was about as much as they were willing to say.  Worse, many of the chars I loved only had a small role.  I couldn't believe they didn't give me a krogan team mate and I didn't really get into james and I've never really liked garrus.  EDI was awesome though.

[ile_1979]

ajaxbr wrote...

Question: If Mass Effect 3 had no multiplayer, would people replay it as much as Mass Effect 2?

Can't say for the rest of the gamers here, but this is how the story went for me:

When ME1 came out for PC i gave it a go, finished it (paragon style), loved it, and came to a conclusion that it is worth another playthrough with a different character. Started the game again, ran through it some 50% through the story, gave it a pause and finally shelved it for proffesional obligations.

Then ME2 came out. Imported my ME1 Shep in it, played through it, finished it. 2 People died, paragon ending. I would have played it again just for that. But i Met with Shiala and Gianna, the Rachni....It seamed like there were choices from ME1 that translated here too. So i loaded the ME1 disk. Continued with my renegade Shep, finished it. Started a new ME2 game with this guy. 1 Companion died, renegade ending. In the past year and a half i have repeated the process with 7 Shepards in ME1 and 5 and a half in ME2. 

Then ME3 came out. And then the word of mouth came out. While ME2 made me play ME1 more, this game makes me play the previous 2 .....let me recount......zero times. No point at all of replaying ME3 alone too. Maybe that is why they didn't repear the face import issue. This game is made to be played with the default Shepard, on action mode (skip all dialogue options) and it ends the same way  every time. More so, because of this all previous variations in the game plays are brought to nill. So yeah, i guess it is the multiplayer part that gives it replayablity. For those who actually do MP. They even try to force it on the SP crowd with the reddiness meter. If i wanted multiplayer i'd play MMOs. Not that i haven't give those a go. I did. I just don't like them.

[Gosia]

ile_1979 wrote...

ajaxbr wrote...

Question: If Mass Effect 3 had no multiplayer, would people replay it as much as Mass Effect 2?

Can't say for the rest of the gamers here, but this is how the story went for me:

When ME1 came out for PC i gave it a go, finished it (paragon style), loved it, and came to a conclusion that it is worth another playthrough with a different character. Started the game again, ran through it some 50% through the story, gave it a pause and finally shelved it for proffesional obligations.

Then ME2 came out. Imported my ME1 Shep in it, played through it, finished it. 2 People died, paragon ending. I would have played it again just for that. But i Met with Shiala and Gianna, the Rachni....It seamed like there were choices from ME1 that translated here too. So i loaded the ME1 disk. Continued with my renegade Shep, finished it. Started a new ME2 game with this guy. 1 Companion died, renegade ending. In the past year and a half i have repeated the process with 7 Shepards in ME1 and 5 and a half in ME2. 

Then ME3 came out. And then the word of mouth came out. While ME2 made me play ME1 more, this game makes me play the previous 2 .....let me recount......zero times. No point at all of replaying ME3 alone too. Maybe that is why they didn't repear the face import issue. This game is made to be played with the default Shepard, on action mode (skip all dialogue options) and it ends the same way  every time. More so, because of this all previous variations in the game plays are brought to nill. So yeah, i guess it is the multiplayer part that gives it replayablity. For those who actually do MP. They even try to force it on the SP crowd with the reddiness meter. If i wanted multiplayer i'd play MMOs. Not that i haven't give those a go. I did. I just don't like them.

Same here, and I also have the same feelings about multiplayer. Somebody was thinking about quick game and quick money made on it. And that is a real shame.

Modifié par Gosia, 22 mars 2012 - 07:54 .

[Sparviero Ged]

I finished Mass Effect III yesterday night.

The final is beautiful. I was worry about it after I read all these negative impression, but i have to tell that: this final is perfect and i divened it after my first meeting with soverign.

How can i tell bioware to leave the possibility to play this final? I don't want to have a different final only for the "fan".

[ile_1979]

Sparviero Ged wrote...

I finished Mass Effect III yesterday night.

The final is beautiful. I was worry about it after I read all these negative impression, but i have to tell that: this final is perfect and i divened it after my first meeting with soverign.

How can i tell bioware to leave the possibility to play this final? I don't want to have a different final only for the "fan".

IF they actually listen to the "fans", i don't think you have a reason to worry. What most of us really want is more endings, to refelct multiple choices made throughout the games, no nececearly override of the existing one. Although you must admit, the Normandy part makes no sense at all in either scenario. 

[Sparviero Ged]

ile_1979 wrote...



IF they actually listen to the "fans", i don't think you have a reason to worry. What most of us really want is more endings, to refelct multiple choices made throughout the games, no nececearly override of the existing one. Although you must admit, the Normandy part makes no sense at all in either scenario. 

Mmm why do you say this?

Sorry for my english :innocent:

[WaitWhatNow]

No idea if this is mentioned yet, read about half the pages. Youtuber
Archengeia made a video commenting his ideas about an ending. Very well
thought of and reflects alot of what i agree with:

[ile_1979]

Sparviero Ged wrote...

ile_1979 wrote...



IF they actually listen to the "fans", i don't think you have a reason to worry. What most of us really want is more endings, to refelct multiple choices made throughout the games, no nececearly override of the existing one. Although you must admit, the Normandy part makes no sense at all in either scenario. 

Mmm why do you say this?

Sorry for my english :innocent:

Well...there is no explanation att all (unless your turn to out of character or deus ex Machina) to explain Normandy's action in the ending scenes  

[desirearune]

I read on ign bioware announced that they are working on new content for the disappointing ending..... bioware didn't sound like they are going to add additional endings just explain the endings and probably see how everyone else will be doing ....

[maizeteddo]

I am still surprised when I read some players who say they played through the ending of ME3 and loved it.

Were there any complaints (on the scale of ME3) about the ending of ME1? ME2? No, because they made sense, and they fit in with the assurance by Bioware that choices made throughout would reflect in an appropriate ending. Granted, we didn't get 1000 endings in either of those games either, but our choices made were satisfied with the endings we got with both 1&2.

Which is why the outcry over ME3's ending(s) which tied nothing up. I'm sorry, but the basically three endings only opened the door to many questions, which was NOT what the majority of ME players wanted at the end of an amazing trilogy. An appropriate ending(s) could also have been arrived at in ME3 without resulting in dozens of endings, but at least several that would have walked hand in hand with decisions that had been made throughout the games.

Instead we get this hazy "Lost" series feel instead of the epic closure we had come to expect. if Bioware's intent had been to open the door to more games, more DLC then they should never have called this a trilogy. It was a cheap trick to rope us in for more. And as far as DLC for this game? Why? Unless the ending(s) change, what would be the point????

[DouLou]

Aviticus wrote...

I'm just posting here because I hope someone from BioWare hears me, the ending was fine. Leave it alone, everyone complaining are just whining about nothing. The story went well and the ending was appropriate in my opinion. I read many complaints and opinions, but I personally enjoyed the ending, it had an awesome classic sci-fi feel to it, and reminded me of Earth Abides by George Stewart. Don't give in to your community and make another ending, that's just silly, people should just respect your guys' story and how you chose to end it. It is your story, I think you guys did a great job. The game was great the series is great. If people want to change the ending feel free to go out and write some silly fanfic.
PS: please make an actual trailer for the movie Blasto

+1

I loved the ending to. It was epic space opera type stuff. Have you ever read A Fire Upon The Deep? I don't wish to spoil the ending to that but there are similarities there. 

I can nitpick the ending with the best of them, but I won't derail this topic to descend into an ending debate, all I'll say is - Bioware, if you are reading this post, don't change it. If you must appease the people, then add to it, give them the closure they want, but for Gods sake stick to your vision.

[ioannisdenton]

Have not even finished the game but
PLEASE DO NOT change the ending.
this action will make you lose tons of respect , from me and other rational people.
http://www.gamespot....hanges-6367380/

[avatar2396]

ioannisdenton wrote...

Have not even finished the game but
PLEASE DO NOT change the ending.
this action will make you lose tons of respect , from me and other rational people.
http://www.gamespot....hanges-6367380/

I dont think you have to worry. Even if they do it, it wont be for awhile

[Stigweird85]

It has already started,

We demand changed]
We demand you don't change it.

Solution optional DLC, don't want change don't download it
Want change download it.

Everyone is happy