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I am still surprised when I read some players who say they played through the ending of ME3 and loved it.

Were there any complaints (on the scale of ME3) about the ending of ME1? ME2? No, because they made sense, and they fit in with the assurance by Bioware that choices made throughout would reflect in an appropriate ending. Granted, we didn't get 1000 endings in either of those games either, but our choices made were satisfied with the endings we got with both 1&2.

Which is why the outcry over ME3's ending(s) which tied nothing up. I'm sorry, but the basically three endings only opened the door to many questions, which was NOT what the majority of ME players wanted at the end of an amazing trilogy. An appropriate ending(s) could also have been arrived at in ME3 without resulting in dozens of endings, but at least several that would have walked hand in hand with decisions that had been made throughout the games.

Instead we get this hazy "Lost" series feel instead of the epic closure we had come to expect. if Bioware's intent had been to open the door to more games, more DLC then they should never have called this a trilogy. It was a cheap trick to rope us in for more. And as far as DLC for this game? Why? Unless the ending(s) change, what would be the point????


totally agree, but we cant blame them for like it. In fact, we shoudnt demand anything. You people just dont understand: they dont have to do anything for us. If they do, is because the want our money. Of course they want, is their job, they worked hard on a great game. The end is a sh ...? ok, but they are gona charge on us for a better end(if they make another end).

Really, you people should stop crying and complainning about those stupid killing "buttons" in the space, the color of the relay ray and your romanced character in the crashed normandy. They should have thought on us when they design the end. If they didnt, i dont think they will now just because you write a lot of posts. I wish they do, really, but i cant beliave it.

They are not gona give you exactly what you want, and you will never forget the feeling of that crapy end.
If you want something properly, you have to do it yourself. You can write a fanfic, a comic ... a new game ...
 what are you gona do? keeping in the pissed off mood or the depressed one is not the better option.

I know what i want: a better end, a final battle with TIM, an explanation for the keepers, that sun on haestrom, a good reason for the reapers, the citadel, a lot of end posibilities and a non-forced-stupidly epic dead for Shepard. Im not gonna wait crying and complainning till they decide to give me what i want, if they finally do, who knows, this year or the next or whenever. If i want a better end, my end, im gona have it. No matter what.

I got the idea, the hability, the time and the passion of a real mass effect fan. So, i say, scr ... w you Bioware, i loved you, but you destroyed my favourite sify universe. I dont need you to fix this, i can do it better. I am gona make my own free mass effect 4 indigame, and im gona share it with everyone who want.

If you are interested, this is the project Blog: http://masseffect4in....wordpress.com/

I dont really care about your opinions of my way of facing the sh...ty END fact. But you have to know it: there are more options.

Bye

Modifié par JeronimoLex, 22 mars 2012 - 04:03 .


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Where was my choice to say "Screw you Kid"

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There's a poll here where you can vote about the end of ME3. Seems the no vs yes are about equal but if you look at the probable / maybe you'd say about 60% is in favor of a different ending (or wouldn't mind it). I just feel that the answers are written in a way that puts people who don't like the ending away as 'angry people' which makes it a negative answer.

http://www.gamefaqs.....html?poll=4666

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JeronimoLex wrote...

maizeteddo wrote...

I am still surprised when I read some players who say they played through the ending of ME3 and loved it.

Were there any complaints (on the scale of ME3) about the ending of ME1? ME2? No, because they made sense, and they fit in with the assurance by Bioware that choices made throughout would reflect in an appropriate ending. Granted, we didn't get 1000 endings in either of those games either, but our choices made were satisfied with the endings we got with both 1&2.

Which is why the outcry over ME3's ending(s) which tied nothing up. I'm sorry, but the basically three endings only opened the door to many questions, which was NOT what the majority of ME players wanted at the end of an amazing trilogy. An appropriate ending(s) could also have been arrived at in ME3 without resulting in dozens of endings, but at least several that would have walked hand in hand with decisions that had been made throughout the games.

Instead we get this hazy "Lost" series feel instead of the epic closure we had come to expect. if Bioware's intent had been to open the door to more games, more DLC then they should never have called this a trilogy. It was a cheap trick to rope us in for more. And as far as DLC for this game? Why? Unless the ending(s) change, what would be the point????


totally agree, but we cant blame them for like it. In fact, we shoudnt demand anything. You people just dont understand: they dont have to do anything for us. If they do, is because the want our money. Of course they want, is their job, they worked hard on a great game. The end is a sh ...? ok, but they are gona charge on us for a better end(if they make another end).

Really, you people should stop crying and complainning about those stupid killing "buttons" in the space, the color of the relay ray and your romanced character in the crashed normandy. They should have thought on us when they design the end. If they didnt, i dont think they will now just because you write a lot of posts. I wish they do, really, but i cant beliave it.

They are not gona give you exactly what you want, and you will never forget the feeling of that crapy end.
If you want something properly, you have to do it yourself. You can write a fanfic, a comic ... a new game ...
 what are you gona do? keeping in the pissed off mood or the depressed one is not the better option.

I know what i want: a better end, a final battle with TIM, an explanation for the keepers, that sun on haestrom, a good reason for the reapers, the citadel, a lot of end posibilities and a non-forced-stupidly epic dead for Shepard. Im not gonna wait crying and complainning till they decide to give me what i want, if they finally do, who knows, this year or the next or whenever. If i want a better end, my end, im gona have it. No matter what.

I got the idea, the hability, the time and the passion of a real mass effect fan. So, i say, scr ... w you Bioware, i loved you, but you destroyed my favourite sify universe. I dont need you to fix this, i can do it better. I am gona make my own free mass effect 4 indigame, and im gona share it with everyone who want.

If you are interested, this is the project Blog: http://masseffect4in....wordpress.com/

I dont really care about your opinions of my way of facing the sh...ty END fact. But you have to know it: there are more options.

Bye



What would I have preferred?  Honestly - I would have made ME3 all about the total take down of Cerberus.   Final boss battle there would have been a no brainer about facing TIM at the end.  Get them out of the way, so that the Reapers could be dealt with alone.

Of course, that would have opened the doors for a ME4 (hey, I'm sorry, but IMO these games couldn't be wrapped up in 3 anyway) and so I would have made ME4 about uniting all the races, and destroying Harbinger and the Reapers. 

Personally, it's out there, so I think the ending (as horrible as I and a vast majority of all the websites regarding it seem to feel) should not be changed, BUT I think there should be different endings added at some point so that all those replays we did of 1&2 would culminate in several that would make more sense than what we were given.

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"We see the final moments and imagery as offering victory and hope in the context of sacrifice and reflection."

I 'm wondering, did the Bioware dudes and dudettes at any point ever stop to ponder the following "Will our fans see the final moments and imagery as offering victory and hope in the context of sacrifice and reflection?"

My voice joins with those who answer that question with a resounding no.

At some point I think you simply stuck your heads in the clouds, figured you had your fans downright pegged and stopped listening in favour of the importance of artistic integrity.

Really, with your excellent track record of delivering amazing games and catering to your fans on so many levels, you should have known better. I know that you could have done better.

In the end, you're creating a product to satisfy your customers and give us what you think the fans want, rather than going down the road of "*I* wanted the ending to be, or *we* see the final moments.

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Sparviero Ged wrote...

I finished Mass Effect III yesterday night.

The final is beautiful. I was worry about it after I read all these negative impression, but i have to tell that: this final is perfect and i divened it after my first meeting with soverign.

How can i tell bioware to leave the possibility to play this final? I don't want to have a different final only for the "fan".


HAH.  You're funny.  There is NO WAY a human being can accept "I made synthetics to kill you so you wouldn't have to be killed by your own synthetics".  NO WAY.

No human being can accept: "Synthetics will always turn on their creators".  You know, like the way the Quarians turned on the Geth...oh, wait a minute.  And then there's the whole thing where you can EITHER get the Geth on your side, all friendly and "alive" (wiping out the Quarians WHO STARTED IT) OR you can get the Geth and the Quarians together all friendly AND allied to you to boot.  That's DEFINTELY an example of synthetics turning on their creators right there...oh wait...OK, so EDI is a good example of that.  See, she takes on human form so she can...help you on missions AND start a relationship with Joker.  See how evil that is?  She's TURNING on us!

Or are you into incest?  Do you like brother-sister sex and babies?  You must because that is what happens with the Normandy crashing on that planet and everyone stepping out and starting a new civilization (stargazer and the kid):  INCEST.  After just a handful of generations, EVERYONE on that planet is brother and sister. 

You like that stuff?  It's "perfect" is it? 

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Getorex wrote...

Sparviero Ged wrote...

I finished Mass Effect III yesterday night.

The final is beautiful. I was worry about it after I read all these negative impression, but i have to tell that: this final is perfect and i divened it after my first meeting with soverign.

How can i tell bioware to leave the possibility to play this final? I don't want to have a different final only for the "fan".


HAH.  You're funny.  There is NO WAY a human being can accept "I made synthetics to kill you so you wouldn't have to be killed by your own synthetics".  NO WAY.

No human being can accept: "Synthetics will always turn on their creators".  You know, like the way the Quarians turned on the Geth...oh, wait a minute.  And then there's the whole thing where you can EITHER get the Geth on your side, all friendly and "alive" (wiping out the Quarians WHO STARTED IT) OR you can get the Geth and the Quarians together all friendly AND allied to you to boot.  That's DEFINTELY an example of synthetics turning on their creators right there...oh wait...OK, so EDI is a good example of that.  See, she takes on human form so she can...help you on missions AND start a relationship with Joker.  See how evil that is?  She's TURNING on us!

Or are you into incest?  Do you like brother-sister sex and babies?  You must because that is what happens with the Normandy crashing on that planet and everyone stepping out and starting a new civilization (stargazer and the kid):  INCEST.  After just a handful of generations, EVERYONE on that planet is brother and sister. 

You like that stuff?  It's "perfect" is it? 


Chill man, we may not agree with him but if he thinks that ending is perfect then thats what he likes. 

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Where was my choice to say "Screw you Kid"


It got dropped in lieu of the multiplayer add-on.

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I wonder why dont they make it a la Fallout 3 Broken Steel? It was a huge success, the best Fallout 3 DLC by far; people got what they wanted, nice way to end the story, they made money and it was only a little DLC. I dont know anything yet about ME3 ending so I cant give my opinion but if its that bad, they should consider that kind of option.

Also, Im getting a feeling that the single player part of the DLC will be minor because if it was to be something huge, they would not release it with the multiplayer DLC that they already planned. My guess is that it will be a 3 to 5min cutscene with someone narrating it in order to explain the ending further. I hope I am wrong but the way I see it, no way in hell they would change/alter the endings.

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DCG2U wrote...

I wonder why dont they make it a la Fallout 3 Broken Steel? It was a huge success, the best Fallout 3 DLC by far; people got what they wanted, nice way to end the story, they made money and it was only a little DLC. I dont know anything yet about ME3 ending so I cant give my opinion but if its that bad, they should consider that kind of option.

Also, Im getting a feeling that the single player part of the DLC will be minor because if it was to be something huge, they would not release it with the multiplayer DLC that they already planned. My guess is that it will be a 3 to 5min cutscene with someone narrating it in order to explain the ending further. I hope I am wrong but the way I see it, no way in hell they would change/alter the endings.


That would indicate they recognize they were WRONG (they were).  They cannot do that.  Ego and all.  They must NOT admit to the BIG STOOPID.  They wil explain blatant self-contradiction as perfectly logical...because they say so.  They will ignore immutable laws of biology and just repeat the Normandy crash again but with more pictures.  

That is, if they really don't care about existing much longer.  Maybe they are all just tired of games and gaming and want to go in a different direction:  scientific computer animation.  Of course, their blatantly unscientific, illogical, work thus far doesn't bode well for THAT change of focus. :?  So maybe they would prefer to go up against PIXAR and such and just do movies. 

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Getorex wrote...

DCG2U wrote...

I wonder why dont they make it a la Fallout 3 Broken Steel? It was a huge success, the best Fallout 3 DLC by far; people got what they wanted, nice way to end the story, they made money and it was only a little DLC. I dont know anything yet about ME3 ending so I cant give my opinion but if its that bad, they should consider that kind of option.

Also, Im getting a feeling that the single player part of the DLC will be minor because if it was to be something huge, they would not release it with the multiplayer DLC that they already planned. My guess is that it will be a 3 to 5min cutscene with someone narrating it in order to explain the ending further. I hope I am wrong but the way I see it, no way in hell they would change/alter the endings.


That would indicate they recognize they were WRONG (they were).  They cannot do that.  Ego and all.  They must NOT admit to the BIG STOOPID.  They wil explain blatant self-contradiction as perfectly logical...because they say so.  They will ignore immutable laws of biology and just repeat the Normandy crash again but with more pictures.  

That is, if they really don't care about existing much longer.  Maybe they are all just tired of games and gaming and want to go in a different direction:  scientific computer animation.  Of course, their blatantly unscientific, illogical, work thus far doesn't bode well for THAT change of focus. :?  So maybe they would prefer to go up against PIXAR and such and just do movies. 


First of all, may I remind you this is the No ME3 Spoilers section? You know, not every body played/finished the game so next time try to not say anything spoilerific (or at least warn people).

Second, I dont understand what you mean. They officially announced  *May contain spoilers*a New ending DLC (I did not read it, read it at your own risks) so yes they are in someway admitting that their vision of the endings did not please everyone and they are trying te explain further. I only know what happens to the protagonist of the serie that is all and I just wanted them to change it a little but thats not going to happen.

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DCG2U wrote...

Getorex wrote...

DCG2U wrote...

I wonder why dont they make it a la Fallout 3 Broken Steel? It was a huge success, the best Fallout 3 DLC by far; people got what they wanted, nice way to end the story, they made money and it was only a little DLC. I dont know anything yet about ME3 ending so I cant give my opinion but if its that bad, they should consider that kind of option.

Also, Im getting a feeling that the single player part of the DLC will be minor because if it was to be something huge, they would not release it with the multiplayer DLC that they already planned. My guess is that it will be a 3 to 5min cutscene with someone narrating it in order to explain the ending further. I hope I am wrong but the way I see it, no way in hell they would change/alter the endings.


That would indicate they recognize they were WRONG (they were).  They cannot do that.  Ego and all.  They must NOT admit to the BIG STOOPID.  They wil explain blatant self-contradiction as perfectly logical...because they say so.  They will ignore immutable laws of biology and just repeat the Normandy crash again but with more pictures.  

That is, if they really don't care about existing much longer.  Maybe they are all just tired of games and gaming and want to go in a different direction:  scientific computer animation.  Of course, their blatantly unscientific, illogical, work thus far doesn't bode well for THAT change of focus. :?  So maybe they would prefer to go up against PIXAR and such and just do movies. 


First of all, may I remind you this is the No ME3 Spoilers section? You know, not every body played/finished the game so next time try to not say anything spoilerific (or at least warn people).

Second, I dont understand what you mean. They officially announced  *May contain spoilers*a New ending DLC (I did not read it, read it at your own risks) so yes they are in someway admitting that their vision of the endings did not please everyone and they are trying te explain further. I only know what happens to the protagonist of the serie that is all and I just wanted them to change it a little but thats not going to happen.


I haven't read it yet BUT...I know people who have and I play someone who has on TV.  As I understand it...it isn't yet "good" news.  As usual, up to this point, it is not really clear that they will FIX the ending, just flesh it out - and that cannot make blatant self-contradiction NON-contradictory.  Repeat all you want, flesh out all you want, self-contradicton remains.  Illogic cannot be made logical by more exposition or repetition.  It simply cannot.  Biology cannot be changed by the same token.

Also, I am fully able to dash ANY and ALL hopes for hope in the current ending, expanded or "fleshed out" or not simply by referencing stargazer.  I wont go into more detail on stargazer without prompting (and don't worry your little head about "spoilers" because if you simply read through the pages here, you will find it is CHOCK FULL OF SPOILER.  Cat's out of the bag on that front.  Horses out of the barn...you get the idea.)

When I have read reviews of any new DLC ending, THEN I will believe that Bioware has made good or screwed the pooch for good.  If they make good, I will re-purchase ME3 and give it a new whirl.  Kick the tires, light the fires, etc.  Until then, I have gotten my money back.  They have to prove themselves in fact, not in word.

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So the internet wins over the developer about the game.
Τhe internet community ,which is full of contradictions, full of trends, full of memes like "arrow to the knee", the "chuck norris-jokes" generation, wins over a developer (and a DAMN good one) about it's spiritual child.
this is so wrong.
YES videogames are ART nowadays, this is like demanding a different ending for a movie, harass the director about the ending.
I do not want to be a part of this at all.

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Getorex wrote...

DCG2U wrote...

Getorex wrote...

DCG2U wrote...

I wonder why dont they make it a la Fallout 3 Broken Steel? It was a huge success, the best Fallout 3 DLC by far; people got what they wanted, nice way to end the story, they made money and it was only a little DLC. I dont know anything yet about ME3 ending so I cant give my opinion but if its that bad, they should consider that kind of option.

Also, Im getting a feeling that the single player part of the DLC will be minor because if it was to be something huge, they would not release it with the multiplayer DLC that they already planned. My guess is that it will be a 3 to 5min cutscene with someone narrating it in order to explain the ending further. I hope I am wrong but the way I see it, no way in hell they would change/alter the endings.


That would indicate they recognize they were WRONG (they were).  They cannot do that.  Ego and all.  They must NOT admit to the BIG STOOPID.  They wil explain blatant self-contradiction as perfectly logical...because they say so.  They will ignore immutable laws of biology and just repeat the Normandy crash again but with more pictures.  

That is, if they really don't care about existing much longer.  Maybe they are all just tired of games and gaming and want to go in a different direction:  scientific computer animation.  Of course, their blatantly unscientific, illogical, work thus far doesn't bode well for THAT change of focus. :?  So maybe they would prefer to go up against PIXAR and such and just do movies. 


First of all, may I remind you this is the No ME3 Spoilers section? You know, not every body played/finished the game so next time try to not say anything spoilerific (or at least warn people).

Second, I dont understand what you mean. They officially announced  *May contain spoilers*a New ending DLC (I did not read it, read it at your own risks) so yes they are in someway admitting that their vision of the endings did not please everyone and they are trying te explain further. I only know what happens to the protagonist of the serie that is all and I just wanted them to change it a little but thats not going to happen.


I haven't read it yet BUT...I know people who have and I play someone who has on TV.  As I understand it...it isn't yet "good" news.  As usual, up to this point, it is not really clear that they will FIX the ending, just flesh it out - and that cannot make blatant self-contradiction NON-contradictory.  Repeat all you want, flesh out all you want, self-contradicton remains.  Illogic cannot be made logical by more exposition or repetition.  It simply cannot.  Biology cannot be changed by the same token.

Also, I am fully able to dash ANY and ALL hopes for hope in the current ending, expanded or "fleshed out" or not simply by referencing stargazer.  I wont go into more detail on stargazer without prompting (and don't worry your little head about "spoilers" because if you simply read through the pages here, you will find it is CHOCK FULL OF SPOILER.  Cat's out of the bag on that front.  Horses out of the barn...you get the idea.)

When I have read reviews of any new DLC ending, THEN I will believe that Bioware has made good or screwed the pooch for good.  If they make good, I will re-purchase ME3 and give it a new whirl.  Kick the tires, light the fires, etc.  Until then, I have gotten my money back.  They have to prove themselves in fact, not in word.


I am really anxious about how will this DLC will turn out. I am 90% sure that it will be some sort of cutscene, explaining in details what happens after the ending or something like you see the ending through the eyes of somebody else (ex: Love interest or Anderson).

Dont expect too much, unless they suprise everyone by making a huge cannon-DLC (again, a la Fallout 3 Broken Steel). In my opinion, it would be the best for everyone. Majority of the gamers will be pleased, will end definetly the story of Commander Sheperd, they will make profit (be realistic: they must charge us something on something this big).

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All we want as fans is to see was a happy ending. much like the endings of the first two games. If it wasn't broke why did they try to fix it. classic case of tinkering with perfection. nothing good could have come out of it. totally out of character with the rest of the franchise. If you wanted angst and pathos make a different game.

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I have an observation that, to the best of my knowledge, no one else has put forward. It is yet another dashing of hope that Bioware claims their disjointed and hopelessly broken and illogical ending provides.

Let's turn our attention to stargazer at the very very ass end of the ending. There's the DEEPLY inbred stargazer telling Shepard stories to his even more deeply inbred...grandson? Whatever, after a certain level of inbreeding does it really matter anymore? Anywho...there's stargazer with the freak kid. Kid asks stargazer "what will I find if I ever go out in space?" Stargazer goes on about how many stars and planets there are, how there may be (I would like to emphasize the word "MAY") different civilizations on these worlds, etc.

Wait a minute! Hold the phone! Who got out of the crashed Normandy?! I'd SWEAR I saw ALIENS. I saw a Garrus, at least. Some saw Liara. Perhaps others saw Tali. All of them are ALIENS. Why the hell did the kid need to ask "what will I find" when they already KNOW what they'd find? Turians, Quarians, Asari at the very least because they were with the original crew! But wait! The kid is asking! THAT means that, as per logic, the planet is clearly not compatible with Turian or Quarian so Garrus and Tali died VERY shortly after the crash landing. HAPPY ENDING! There's some hope! OK, well, Liara should have then been fine, surely? If the planet is compatible with humans, it must be compatible with Asari AND Liara was the ONLY species in the whole batch who could mate with ANYONE. There SHOULD be Asari girls running around all over the place in stargazer's time! But there aren't because the kid had to ask and stargazer had to say their MIGHT be all kinds of other civilizations out there. Get the drift?

The crew of the Normandy crashed, the aliens on the crew are all LONG dead and gone (Garrus and Tali were screwed from day one anyway because they were solo...no one to mate with...AND the planet couldn't be compatible with BOTH human/Asari and Turian/Quarian. Just can't.). Apparently Liara didn't fare well either (she CAN live thousands of years remember AND mate with anyone).

Too bad, so sad. No hope on planet Incest to be found.

The end MUST be completely FIXED. There is no "hope" in it at all.

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Ηappy endings?? i have not finished the game i REALLY hope for a sad ending, this is not a cartoon, reapers are attacking, people are dying!

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aBADd0n2476 wrote...

All we want as fans is to see was a happy ending. much like the endings of the first two games. If it wasn't broke why did they try to fix it. classic case of tinkering with perfection. nothing good could have come out of it. totally out of character with the rest of the franchise. If you wanted angst and pathos make a different game.


Yeah I agree. From what I have heard (I didnt finished the game, far from it), there is only bad endings and this kinda "ruins the choices you made" because I thought Mass Effect serie was all about choices.

Look here for example, this trailer:



Same thing about ME2 ending, you still have choices but from what I heard about ME3 ending, it all comes down to the same ending so kinda ruins a little the serie.

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Just finished Mass Effect 3 on Xbox360 (the home of Mass Effect) - I'm sorry (my opinion of course) I didn't like the ending at all, I remember playing a DLC on Mass effect 1 which allowed Shepard to receive a retirement home and what a nice home it was (those who played the DLC would agree) why oh why couldn't we see Shepard finish the fight then go on to settle down/retire there, I wouldn't have minded seeing my character settle down with (in my case) Miss Lawson, that was the type of ending I was hoping for but - yeah I am disappointed with the current ending hopefully a DLC will be released to continue a bit more maybe where your crew members find you and you recover in hospital (thinking aloud there).

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danielrh wrote...

Just finished Mass Effect 3 on Xbox360 (the home of Mass Effect) - I'm sorry (my opinion of course) I didn't like the ending at all, I remember playing a DLC on Mass effect 1 which allowed Shepard to receive a retirement home and what a nice home it was (those who played the DLC would agree) why oh why couldn't we see Shepard finish the fight then go on to settle down/retire there, I wouldn't have minded seeing my character settle down with (in my case) Miss Lawson, that was the type of ending I was hoping for but - yeah I am disappointed with the current ending hopefully a DLC will be released to continue a bit more maybe where your crew members find you and you recover in hospital (thinking aloud there).


See? Thats a good ending idea, I would like it. Give us the choice man, this is what the entire serie has been about. If you want bad ending, fine but dont force that concept on everyone.

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@danielrh and @DCG2U: you are not alone (by a VERY long shot). MY LI is Ash (Mmmmmm Ashley). I would have liked an ending where Shep and Ash go off and are a SPECTRE TEAM. Well known, feared, respected throughout the galaxy. Hell, ANY ending with Shep and Ash would work for me, SPECTRE or not. Sure, I WOULD have played multiple times and tried on different LIs for Shep but Ash was my No. 1.

Some people want blue babies. Some want a home for Tali.

The endings as they are currently, even totally ignoring the absolute and irreparable illogic and self-contradiction, do NOT allow for even an IMAGINARY happy ending. Even when you have a (barely) living Shepard at the end! They set it up so ANY idea of a happy ending is proscribed (forbidden). They didn't even give us the ability to IMAGINE something nicer.

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The team that created Mass Effect did a AWESOME job and I give them their due. I could not wait for the next installment to be released and it was no different with ME3, and just like most of the people out there I was rather upset and dissapointed with the conclusion of this great game (work of art) unless you had enough EMS, which I did and still didn't get the easter egg . I hope that Bioware does take into consideration what it's audience/fans are saying and the dissatisfaction that is being vented, I personally would have liked more options. So hoping for some good news in the future. But like everyone else I am just going to have to wait and see what happens.

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Getorex wrote...

@danielrh and @DCG2U: you are not alone (by a VERY long shot). MY LI is Ash (Mmmmmm Ashley). I would have liked an ending where Shep and Ash go off and are a SPECTRE TEAM. Well known, feared, respected throughout the galaxy. Hell, ANY ending with Shep and Ash would work for me, SPECTRE or not. Sure, I WOULD have played multiple times and tried on different LIs for Shep but Ash was my No. 1.

Some people want blue babies. Some want a home for Tali.

The endings as they are currently, even totally ignoring the absolute and irreparable illogic and self-contradiction, do NOT allow for even an IMAGINARY happy ending. Even when you have a (barely) living Shepard at the end! They set it up so ANY idea of a happy ending is proscribed (forbidden). They didn't even give us the ability to IMAGINE something nicer.


Damn right. Again, this game is about CHOICES. In my playthrought, I find some forced choices but overall, they fitted well in the story. I feel that this ending was rushed. Its so much easier to make a bad ending than a good one (well, RAGE ending was a "good ending" but still felt cheap and rushed).

I really hope that I get a diagnose for dyslexia about the DLC saying that they wont alter anything about the ending. Such a great serie, great gameplay, great story but looks like they ruined it at the end.

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ioannisdenton wrote...

Ηappy endings?? i have not finished the game i REALLY hope for a sad ending, this is not a cartoon, reapers are attacking, people are dying!


don't worry it's not like you will have a choice.....and it's not like it will matter anyway :pinched:

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The only thing that still convice me that the DLC (or other future content) will be great is that Casey Hudson mentionned that "it is not the last time you will hear about Commander Sheperd...". BioWare might surpise us, who knows.