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[Kiara]

Good god! this is torture! The Ending still wasn't explained or validated or anything... That whole article was a waste in my opinion. It told nothing new or nothing solid.. they already told us they are listening, we know there will be DLC's coming out.. All this did was diminish my faith... and trust in Bioware.. 

We can not be lied to and say our diecisions matter in the end when really it all comes down to red green or blue...

I don't trust this! tis a lie..

But still Holding the line!

Modifié par Kiara, 17 mars 2012 - 02:01 .

[Valk72]

Silvren555 wrote...

They can release ALL the DLC they like, if that ending sticks, I for one will NOT buy any of it.

If that ending sticks, i'll just add BW to my Blacklist.

[Paragon Auducan]

All that was needed to be said was either.

We agree, we will do something about the ending
or
We don't agree, we will do nothing about the ending.

[Fame-KIllz]

How can someone type so much but say absolutely nothing? Astounding.

[pharsti]

Qutayba wrote...

This is the best we're going to get for now. It's a reassertion of their commitment to their fans, and really we can't ask for anything more at the moment. Hold the line, keep pushing for new endings, but let's treat them more like a friend with a bad addiction rather than a hated enemy.

He's vague because he HAS to be vague. They don't want to say anything that could even be remotely interpreted as a promise, because they want to make sure they can and they want to before committing.

Stay patient, stay civil, stay generous (donate!), and hold the line.

Im sorry, but by now, we all know how good their promises are, so promising something now and not owning up to it later wouldnt be anything new really.

At least it would quell some of the rage XD




And then itd be back...

[Legend78731]

The ending was the opposite of "inspiring or uplifting". On top of that, it made very little sense. I also take issue with the way this response continues to characterize the movement to change the ending as "some" (or a vocal minority) of the fan base. The fan base, your customers, overwhelmingly disapprove of the ending. It would be better for everyone involved, your company included, to acknowledge the reality of the situation.

[MissMaster_2]

If we keep pushing well get it!! Hold that line!

[Meltemph]

kiiiiii wrote...

this...is it?? wonder if this statement makes things worse

It does.  It insinuates that the ending we got is at the very least for a certain group.  I'm not sure what is more annoying, that people find the philiosephy behind this deep or that the writers thought so.  I was actually behind the idea that what we saw isnt what we think we saw, but the more I read responses from the developers the more they are convincing me they think they are creating an artful and deap meaning to the ending.

They think they are writing on Robert Heinlein's level, seriously, I think they really do think liek that.

Modifié par Meltemph, 17 mars 2012 - 01:58 .

[recentio]

louislingg wrote...

I just want to highlight a few things he says not like anybody will read my post but here goes anyway

He says he considers the game a collaboration between US and THEM. meaning our opinions are valid. He even goes as far as to say "your opinions are valid" Do you know what this means? This means that while he may not agree with our opinion, and i am SURE he doesn't, he recognizes it has solid reasoning behind it.

ALL OF YOU should be willing to do the same for him. At least if you actually want to be constructive and hopeful instead of bitter and mad.

He also says content is coming, THIS YEAR, and that they will be listening to fans in order to determine what to develop. which means that if the ending issue really is as big a deal as it was in the case of Fallout 3, there very well could be alternate ending DLC coming.

No he didn't promise anything, but it's still REALLY EARLY. Guys the fact that he responded at all when the game is still in the early stages of being sold is proof they take this seriously. Stop the hating! The hating is getting ridiculous. It really is.

This. The way he worded it implies to me that he's willing to take fan input into consideration when making decisions about what content to offer in some upcoming DLC. That's postive news!

[JrSlackin]

louislingg wrote...

I just want to highlight a few things he says not like anybody will read my post but here goes anyway

He says he considers the game a collaboration between US and THEM. meaning our opinions are valid. He even goes as far as to say "your opinions are valid" Do you know what this means? This means that while he may not agree with our opinion, and i am SURE he doesn't, he recognizes it has solid reasoning behind it.

ALL OF YOU should be willing to do the same for him. At least if you actually want to be constructive and hopeful instead of bitter and mad.

He also says content is coming, THIS YEAR, and that they will be listening to fans in order to determine what to develop. which means that if the ending issue really is as big a deal as it was in the case of Fallout 3, there very well could be alternate ending DLC coming.

No he didn't promise anything, but it's still REALLY EARLY. Guys the fact that he responded at all when the game is still in the early stages of being sold is proof they take this seriously. Stop the hating! The hating is getting ridiculous. It really is.

This, as much as people want to bash the guy, at least he said something and not some forum moderator or something (no offense to the forum moderators.)

In consideration I have faith mainly due to the fact that I played a game Star Wars Galaxies back in the day. Do you know what happened when people out cried on how awful that was? They dismissed everything, banned people from posting anything negative, shut down forums, and never even aknowledged the player base all but once saying "everything is alright" after losing 2 million players in a matter of two weeks.

They are not telling you to go fly a kite, like we've been seeing from other gaming websites. You have Casey Hudson coming out and saying something to the player base, and that rarely happens when you have someone so high up do that.

[Tven0]

The love interest of Tali and Garrus was introducded only in ME3. This guy doesn't even know what he is talking about. Give him money and he'll spout any old **** from his mouth. This love interest was introduced in ME3 - get it right. Love your game or **** off Casey.

[Anuvis13]

Does anyone else just get more disappointed and angry every time a statement is made? I keep reading it and I am in disbelief. We are now "the most passionate fans". As in a small subgroup of obsessed players.

[JoeLaTurkeyII]

I'm probably Casey Hudson, and this is or isn't a desirable store on the Citadel or any other place

[Terraforming2154]

Necroscope wrote...

But we also recognize that some of our most passionate fans needed more closure, more answers, and more time to say goodbye to their stories—and these comments are equally valid. Player feedback such as this has always been an essential ingredient in the development of the series.

This is insulting.

Just cut all the bull**** and tell as straight what are you gonna do with this mess!

His statement makes me feel like I'm being an irrational ass, when I really don't think I am.
I have praised the high points of the game and me being dissatisfied with the ending has nothing to do with me needing more time to say goodbye.

Modifié par Terraforming2154, 17 mars 2012 - 01:58 .

[Yalision]

His article was absolutely ridiculous. Tell us you're doing something about it or say you aren't. It is THAT EASY to placate us or send us on our merry way to anywherebutbiowareland.

[MzAdventure]

oh and this part?

"we always intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of
sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending—to do otherwise would
betray the agonizing decisions Shepard had to make along the way.
Still, we wanted to give players the chance to experience an inspiring
and uplifting ending; in a story where you face a hopeless struggle for
basic survival, we see the final moments and imagery as offering victory
and hope in the context of sacrifice and reflection."

Made me vomit.

Modifié par victoriakm, 17 mars 2012 - 01:58 .

[SamFlagg]

merylisk wrote...

louislingg wrote...

I just want to highlight a few things he says not like anybody will read my post but here goes anyway

He says he considers the game a collaboration between US and THEM. meaning our opinions are valid. He even goes as far as to say "your opinions are valid" Do you know what this means? This means that while he may not agree with our opinion, and i am SURE he doesn't, he recognizes it has solid reasoning behind it.

ALL OF YOU should be willing to do the same for him. At least if you actually want to be constructive and hopeful instead of bitter and mad.

He also says content is coming, THIS YEAR, and that they will be listening to fans in order to determine what to develop. which means that if the ending issue really is as big a deal as it was in the case of Fallout 3, there very well could be alternate ending DLC coming.

No he didn't promise anything, but it's still REALLY EARLY. Guys the fact that he responded at all when the game is still in the early stages of being sold is proof they take this seriously. Stop the hating! The hating is getting ridiculous. It really is.

I agree with this.

As do I. 

A curt "Thank you for listening.  No we will not purchase any DLC until we have confirmation of more endings." is sufficient.

it is to the point, it does not back us off one scrap of ground.  They will not beat us by having us give in to our own hostility. 

[CaptainDope]

He speaks, but nothing is really heard. He wanted the ending to bittersweet, inspiring and uplifting? I was freaking filled with rage, sorrow and confusion at the end. I became very depressed. I could not sleep or eat for two days after. I was like a zombie at work.

"This is not the last you’ll hear of Commander Shepard." I hope that means we will play DLC that takes place after the "victory" against the Reapers, and not stuff that happens before or during ME3 as some kind filler. We need closure so that we can move on!

Modifié par CaptainDope, 17 mars 2012 - 02:01 .

[Doodzey]

BTW who cares what the NYT says. They probably don't even play the entire game.

[N7Raider]

tamperous wrote...

I am amused that they chose 9pm on a Friday Night after they started a MP challenge to release this.

Interesting tactic... running scared and sneaking out the back door.

you're making me hate bioware even more...I hope they get booed at PAX.  

[RethenX]

[kidbd15]

Dear Bioware, read this: http://www.gamefront...ns-are-right/6/

[Xion66]

When I sidestep, you sidestep

Everybody! Do the sidestep!

[beccathelion]

GoblinSapper wrote...

Yo Dawg I heard you like Statements so I put a Statement in your Statement so you can listen to a Statement while you listen to my Statement

rofl.