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Casey Hudson Addresses the Conclusion of ME3 (OFFICIAL)


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RussianZombeh wrote...

https://twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/180833749863374851 "You can change your pants after."

lol no one reading your post, I'll repost it for you

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I feel sick.

I don't know which is worse...that Mr. Hudson and team feel that it is an "inspiring and uplifting ending" or that they feel the "final moments and imagery as offering victory and hope in the context of sacrifice and reflection"

That's exactly what I wanted....victory and hope in the context of sacrifice and reflection. I can't understand how we can be so far apart as to what "victory and hope" means.

I feel that I am not the fan that Mr. Hudson and team are looking for. Our versions and ideas of victory and hope are worlds apart. I just feel confusion.

This breaks my heart.

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So... he said nothing new.

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Here is the problem I have, the whole Omega DLC sounds like it would have to happen after the end of the war, Because really, why would Shep want to help out with it before hand. Because without the Reapers gone, taking back Omega would be a moot point. and the way Aria puts it herself. That she better help out before dealing with Omega. So if the Omega take back is before. If anything you wastes resorces that could have been put towrads the Reaper effort, insted of winning a battle against Cerberus.

So really stragicly its a really bad idea.

(btw Multiplayer DLC = New maps to play on)

I know how they can rewrite the ending at least the destory ending where it can be fixed. You can just have a group of Salarian or even Quarian scientist that where working on the "Dark Energy Sun problem" Figure out that, the Curciable was going to destroy alot of Synthetic things. And you could have Shep etiehr have the choice of going with the information, or ignoring it. And if you go with the info, you have to run across the galaxy finding the correct materials to prevent it from just drstroying everything. And have to be facing different Enamys and even maybe having to land on the Yarg homeworld having to find a peice of tech on its planet somewhere.

You could make it a complete extra 10+ hours

The major problem is that too many questions got asked at the end of ME3,

1) Why was joker running? Why are our squadmates with him?

2) If the relays where destoryed whats going to happen to all the different races in the system?

last half of number 1 and number 2 are BIG questions that don't seem to be going to get answered.

Plus I don't think alot of us gets the "Troll logic" from the AI kid. It makes sort of sense but that can not be the only answer... I mean a better one would be making a race of massively powerful Synthetics to destroy just the Synthetics, and have them say, Don't do that again, or we will wipe you all out.

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Sloppywilly wrote...

"But we also recognize that some of our most
passionate fans needed more closure, more answers, and more time to say
goodbye to their stories—and these comments are equally valid."

He's making it sound like it's a very small group of zealots that they just by chance happened to notice...


This small group will make them change it.

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another thing, i'm beyond reproach about this. it's amazing that the ending was "as intended". i gave them the benefit of the doubt via indoc theory because the alternative is just so unbearable to even consider.

now that the ending is truly real, i want nothing to do with any changes they make. they won't be authentic, and will just cost you another 15 bucks. they will be as meaningless as casey hudson's reply to the community.

so screw being "respectful". this is a rage quit. I'M RAGE QUITTING!

Modifié par gao gao, 17 mars 2012 - 02:10 .


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Congratulations on making the first ever video game to deeply depress me. Whole lot of bitter, but I see no sweet. Why would I EVER want to relive this futile adventure again?

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All I can promise is that I'm not buying any DLC until the endings are addressed. I haven't even been able to bring myself to play it again after beating it.

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I really, really want to believe that Bioware will put this right before everything is said and done. But until that time, I'm not touching a single piece of DLC, or another Bioware game.

I demand satisfaction, sir!

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this means NOTHING. Why does he assume that because were gamers were retarded? Give us a real answer, its pretty simple. Its insulting.

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How in the hell can somebody type out so many words and yet still manage to say absolutely nothing?!?

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So in other words, "We really like our ending, we don't care about your opinion, but hey, buy our DLC." I can't believe this crap. No, I take that back, I can believe it. 100%. And you better believe I am done with Bioware permanently. If our opinion and feelings are that meaningless to you, then so is my support and money to you and your products.

R.I.P. Mass Effect. I'll remember you for what you once were, and more importantly, what you could have been.

If I've misread what you're trying to say, then you need to be clear about it because I'm tired of this beating around the bush. Either you're going to fix, add to, or change in some way how the ending plays out, or you're not. I'm not just going to keep buying DLC and products until you decide to come clean.

Modifié par The Real Bowser, 17 mars 2012 - 02:12 .


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Could you just say "Yes, we're making new endings" or "No, endings will never change?"

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Nassegris wrote...

You know, that whole Rachni thing from ME2 comes to mind. It was supposed to be hugely important in this one, as I understand it?

So we get one mission, where whether we saved the damn thing in the second game only really affects the outcome of war assets. That’s the kind of conclusion we get for all the stuff we’ve done? Throw it under the bus so that the ending can boil down to three absolutely inane choices where the tiny variations depend on how much arbitrary ‘stuff’ we’ve gathered?

There is no bitter-sweetness here. None. It’s not even bitter – it’s vile. Damned if you do, Damned if you don’t does not equal bitter sweet, and that’s what the ending felt like.

Like I had been playing a heroic saga of a hero’s struggle all along, only to have her come to the ending, get kicked in the mouth, and kowtow to a space baby because the writers thought that sounded like a neat resolution.

In her last moments – everything she was, all her personality and all her struggles, her ideals, her beliefs, get completely kicked aside though there’s no way she would ever have bowed to this crap. I was secretly hoping for the indoctrination though I didn't want to admit that to myself - but with this reply that doesn't seem likely either.

*deep breath*

Now, now. I said I’d play Origins to get the bad taste out of my mouth, and here I am, unhappy and still typing. Good night, folks.




That's exactly how I felt, but was too angry to articulate. Thank you!

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Kastien wrote...

Not enough.

It's a response, and that's a start. But this is nothing but a PR response. There's nothing substantive here. This doesn't address any of our concerns, nor does it address any of the questions we've raised. This is basically the exact same as saying "yes we're listening to you, but we're not ready to respond yet."

This doesn't contain any kind of response whatsoever aside from "hi, we're bioware, we know you're pissed, look, we're talking, so shut up."


Yuppers Image IPB

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So just because they got solid reviews that means the whole game is great? the last 10 mins is complete rubbish. It ruined Mass Effect 3 and the franchise.

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UPLIFTING????
Ok, calming down here....calming, calming....ok, impulse to do a Krogan charge all the way to Canada averted.
Hudson could be a politician. Nice "statement"...still not getting the point, still not adressing the legitimate issues people have with the endings...
Just a lot of PR spin and empty phrases.
If this is the best we get...well, I can't return the game but don't expect me to ever buy anything from Bioware again.

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Sloppywilly wrote...

"But we also recognize that some of our most
passionate fans needed more closure, more answers, and more time to say
goodbye to their stories—and these comments are equally valid."

He's making it sound like it's a very small group of zealots that they just by chance happened to notice...


It very well could be. There's no way to know exactly how many people hate the ending. I know it's a lot, but there's just no way of knowing whether or not it's a majority. They'd have to poll every single person who has played it.

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thebatmanreborn wrote...

You know, I've been a fan of Bioware for what, 11 years, 12 years? They've earned my patience. Let's give them a chance. They've earned that.


This.  Although I did pull the trigger on my TOR sub, partly due to this continuing adventure.....

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Interesting. Thank you, Casey for taking the time to respond (and Chris and this OP for posting it). I'm disappointed that the message seems to dodge - hell, it feels like it barely acknowledges - our concerns and issues with the ending and there seems to be a big difference between our definition of 'resolution' and yours but I'll wait and see. The damage is too deep for me to forgive and buy further DLC and merchandise for this franchise, but I'll wait and see and try my best to be patient.

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Many people I know love the game UP UNTIL the last 5 minutes and the 'godchild' reaper AI rubbish. There is not a single person who says otherwise in my personal circle and friends. Having asked around it seems this feeling is fairly universal. The endings were dreadful, end of.

Lots of us love the game right up until the endings, that is the issue. Stop blowing your own trumpets about how well the game has been received, the game has but the endings are some of the worst ever seen in gaming.

This 'article' from Casey is nothing more than corporate PR crisis handling and we aren't buying it.

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RussianZombeh wrote...
 So we
designed Mass Effect 3 to be a series of endings to key plots and
storylines, each culminating in scenes that show you the consequences of
your actions.  You then carry the knowledge of these consequences with
you as you complete the final moments of your journey.

We always
intended that the scale of the conflict and the underlying theme of
sacrifice would lead to a bittersweet ending—to do otherwise would
betray the agonizing decisions Shepard had to make along the way. 
Still, we wanted to give players the chance to experience an inspiring
and uplifting ending; in a story where you face a hopeless struggle for
basic survival, we see the final moments and imagery as offering victory
and hope in the context of sacrifice and reflection.
 


Is this really the way you want to do this?  Because I can tell you right now, it's not gonna end well.

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Hey, there is always multi-player.......

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It's like bioware wants to lose fans.

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He really didn't state anything relevant... We are as much in the dark about what has happened or what they plan on doing. At least they've formally acknowledged us. I guess that's the first step