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Casey Hudson Addresses the Conclusion of ME3 (OFFICIAL)


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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).

Come on, Jess? Is it not obvious what we want? We want an ending that we understand! One that brings closure. Preferably and ending that doesn't result with the destruction of the Mass Relays and the Citadel.

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Pretty discouraging that they seem to be brushing us off with more lip service. Ohh we listen, and we take the feedback seriously, yet we refuse to even entertain the notion that the ending was just BAD.

That fact that they seem to think "closure" is the only issue many of us have with the ending just goes to show they have not been reading many of the posts.

Truth is that entire post didn't take one step to resolve or clear up the issue, that's one of the glaring issue people have right now, Bioware is not directly addressing the ending and it's problems.

We don't want fluff PR we want answers!

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I want to flood the entire Bioware HQ with sewage water.

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I just don't what to think. I want to be hopeful. I want to believe what he says and have faith, but really? From the track record lately I don't have much faith. It sucks SO bad because this game is SO good. :(

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Don't be pleased with Hudson's response. Read it carefully; he promises nothing about the ending. This is the "Vague promise so people stop bothering us" move.

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This is pure BS.

If you guys buy this, then they know they got you by the balls. Don't you see, IT WAS ALL PLANNED OUT WELL IN ADVANCE? They KNEW there would be fan outcry and by withholding the ending, they know that the "sheep" will pay for it.

Unless all story-based "DLC" is free (i.e. paid for when we bought the game), I know I, for one, am never buying a Bioware game ever again...well, maybe USED...that way, they get from me the 50% of the game that they released.

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Pretty discouraging that they seem to be brushing us off with more lip service. Ohh we listen, and we take the feedback seriously, yet we refuse to even entertain the notion that the ending was just BAD.

That fact that they seem to think "closure" is the only issue many of us have with the ending just goes to show they have not been reading many of the posts.

Truth is that entire post didn't take one step to resolve or clear up the issue, that's one of the glaring issue people have right now, Bioware is not directly addressing the ending and it's problems.

We don't want fluff PR we want answers!

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Casey cites industry journalist's as examples of people liking the ending. The same journalists that took the ****** out of their angry fan base when writing them off as whiners and entitled brats.

Stay classy BioWare.

Modifié par Linus108, 17 mars 2012 - 02:36 .


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BrotherFluffy wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

Am I the only one taking this statement as a win?

I didn't expect anyone in any official capacity to come out and say "Gee, we sure screwed the pooch on the ending!" Particularly just one day after it was released in a major market like Japan. Anyone expecting such has... well... less than a firm grip on reality.

But Hudson did, however, bring up that they included Garrus and Tali as romances in ME2 and brought back some small measure of RPG elements into ME3.

Those two issues were matches.

This is an ever-loving bonfire.

If they did work on those, they damn sure will work on this.

So I take it as a victory. A small and theoretical one, but a victory nonetheless.


It is.  Wheeling out the Project Director to even mention something like the ending means they're feeling the pressure.  They aren't cracking yet, but they're trying to squash this fast.  Show them how hard that will be.  Hold the line.  


Indeed. It's empty PR, but the fact they felt the situation warranted it in the first place means we are getting through.

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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).

She has a point. We gain nothing by raging, so let's continue to hold the line and explain what it is we want.

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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).


What exactly do you think we have been doing!? Also your cryptic Tweets don't help, they add fuel to the fire.

There are countless threads about what we want. Endings, multiple endings that make sense, have closure and are distinctly different based on choices throughout the series. If we did everything possible then we want a good happy ending, we deserve it. if we didn't give us ramifications like the Suicide Mission in 2.

Modifié par Paragon Auducan, 17 mars 2012 - 02:38 .


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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).



Just one question that'll let so many people sleep easier:

Is an alternative/new ending DLC possible?
Thanks

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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).


His post wasn't an answer to *anything.* For Bioware to expect a vapid, PR-spin post to even mollify *any* sort of concerns is absolutely and utterly ridiculous. Nothing in his posts indicates that this is the beginning of a dialogue or that there are plans to address the ending.

As for what we want..I thought you were listening to our feedback? You should know what we want already. There are numerous articles that are well written and address the grievances we have with the ending. Our Child's Play Drive gives you a simple bulleted list of general things we'd like to see. There are hundreds of posts on this forum that demonstrate why the ending is a failure to the Mass Effect series.

If you were actually listening to our feedback, we wouldn't have to tell you again.

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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).


Would there be a proper place to send some things?  Twitter's character limit is somewhat of a hinderence for explaining out ideas, and here on the forums threads get buried fairly quickly.  I'm sure you aren't looking for an inbox with 50,000 emails.  I'm just trying to find out what the proper channels of communication might be.

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Kloborgg711 wrote...

HenchxNarf wrote...

Tony208 wrote...

It's pretty clear what everyone wants, alternate ending DLC.


Which is something you're not getting, apparently.


You're quite a sadistic troll, aren't you? I bet all these sad players really brighten your mood, huh?


A lot of us here are because we're unhappy/unsatisified with the ending. The only thing I see HenchxNarf doing here is trolling.

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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).


Jessica, look around the BSN. Many well-written posts have already been written by very eloquent people about what we want. Do you mean that we have to tell you guys again? Come on now.

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crimzontearz wrote...

Jessica Merizan wrote...Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration. In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational. Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening. This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).


Jessica...with all due respect but......are you blind?


That's the first thing I've read that's given me hope.

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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).


i prefer that one :)

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I have paid $80 for this game. I am not paying more for the real ending. Fix this or we're done Bioware. I don't want anymore discussion, misdirection, or rhetoric. Your ending is a failure. Either fix it or say goodbye to me as a customer.

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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).


One simple question. Will the dlc be free? Tell us that. Points for bravery if this questions gets an answer

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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).


Thank you Jessica. All of my hope is now temporarily restored. A direct confirmation that you are taking this all in is all I wanted to see. Hopefully it will be implemented, but that will all come in due time.

Know that none of us mean anything personal against you, or anyone at BioWare. The angry comments, like you acknowledge, are because they love Mass Effect. I know you guys don't take it personally, you'd go insane otherwise, I just wanted to make sure. :)

If you want to see my feedback, I believe it is back a page.

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Thank you for your response Mr Hudson. We appreciate you taking the time to let us know that you are indeed paying attention. While your post answers none of the questions we have been asking, opening up a more concrete dialogue is certainly the best way to begin rebuilding the trust I had in Bioware as a company. I look forward to more substantial conversations as you and the Mass Effect team decide where to take the story from here. I will enjoy taking part in Operation Goliath while you do that. Have a pleasant weekend.

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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).


Fair enough. If you want to make this better, give us actual different endings and a real epilogue. Refer to DA:O liberally for help.

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In the words of Mac Walters:

TONS OF SPECULATION!!!!!!

Nothing concrete. Please give us some real answers. You won't see another dime from me until you do.

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Jessica Merizan wrote...

Guys, this is an ongoing dialogue. Casey's post is not the final definitive answer to your concerns. This is a collaboration.

In order to be successful in this, I need you to help me gathering feedback and tell us what you want to see. I understand that people are still feeling emotionally raw or untrusting, and I'm not saying it's not valid to feel that way. However, if you want to see your feedback implemented, this needs to become constructive and rational.

Complaining more isn't going to get you what you want. Tell us what you need. Make polls, collect your thoughts. Chris and I are gathering this information and the developers are listening.

This is a partnership. Let's have hope and make your voice heard - that includes positive feedback too (if you like something we're doing, tell us so we know to keep it up!).

erm on the whole of the front page of this section has people's complaints heck look at the retake mass effect topic pretty much the whole internet is ablaze about the endings. Its pretty obvious what we want actually. 

Modifié par Bigdoser, 17 mars 2012 - 02:38 .