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[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

There's actually a really interesting topic on the spoiler forums where a writer breaks down why the ending is, dubious.

It's a good read and explains why a lot of the elements do not mesh well.

[ratchet219]

Brp650 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Ace Kenshader wrote...

Personally, the whole ending fiasco is just beyond pathetic; this is Bioware's vision of how the game should end, not you guys as you all didn't do backbreaking work of making the game, nor created the series.

:appluase:

i agree 100%

Ditto that 100%

I disagree 100%. Sure it's their vision of how game should end, but it’s my money that I spend… And what was the point playing Mass Effect 1,2 and now 3 if everyone dies anyway?.

If they want to earn  business in the future they should listen.

Modifié par ratchet219, 20 mars 2012 - 12:38 .

[CerberusSoldier]

Szubie wrote...

I agree with the OP, I actually rather enjoyed the ending. I love that Bioware refused to do a traditional, over-done "happy" ending: that's not always possible, especially against the transcendent Reapers. It was tragic and bitter-sweet, powerfully emotive, and followed the theme of the story.

I kinda understand that people are unhappy that they couldn't choose a happier ending, but honestly, this ending fits so well with the game, in my opinion.

    



This did not fit the game. so I am suppose to get fleets and make peace with certain races and at the end I cause Galactic genocide because all 3 choices lead to the mass relays blowing up. nah if you like commting genocide in a video game then hell yeah by all means enjoy the ending . I find the ending disgusting and down right sick .

[brian1821]

Is the genocide you mention based off the Alpha relay going supernova when the asteroid hit it? If so, I do not think that is what is happening during the end cutscene. At least on my mind, I figured that was the relays using up all of their energy ( and destroying themselves in the process) to broadcast whatever signal you chose -synthesis, reaper control, or destruction of all synthetics.

After all, this is exactly what the citadel did and it's resulting shockwave is shown to wash over earth and the organics defending it without causing them harm (unless you had a low EMS score and chose destroy). And although it caused the Normandy to crash, it's not like it vaporized it.

Just a thought to hopefully make you feel a little less disgusted with that part of the ending.

Modifié par brian1821, 23 mars 2012 - 05:43 .

[LordRaptor]

Zorziban the Great wrote...

I have just beaten the game series that changed my whole outlook on videogaming. It took me 32 hours to complete Mass Effect 3 on Hardcore difficulty. That is significantly longer than it took me to beat ME1 and ME2. Before I finished the game I heard many bad things about the ending, and how it impacted the universe. However, I still kept playing becaue I wanted to see for myself. What I got was a suprise.

The ending was incredibly satisfying to me, and it wrapped up my favorite game series of all time. I cried, I laughed, and I cried some more throughout the whole emotional rollercoaster that was the single player story. My mind was blown when I realized the true purpose of the Reapers and the Citadel. My only complaints about the ending is that it makes replaying the previous games pointless because we already know what happens in the end. I also feel that any single player DLC starring Shepard that takes place BEFORE the ending of ME3 is pointless, because we already know what is going to happen.

However, with the way the game ended, there is still a possibility for it to continue, with or without shepard. Bioware, I hope you know that I love the universe and characters that you have created, and I hope you decide to continue with this universe and make many more games involving it. Thank you.

Sigh...it could be said I envy you.  I wish I had been that pleased with it.  You are very lucky.

[100k]

Cure genophage. Wrex as krogan leader to guide them away from galactic carnage. Relays get destroyed. Ouch.

Half the galactic fleets show up on Earth. Relays are destroyed. They are stuck there until someone discovers Mass Effect technology...which probably won't happen for hundreds of years.

Citadel is brought to Earth. Wait a second...don't the reapers SHUT OFF the RELAYS as their first step in retaking the Citadel? Oh. Retcon. Okay. Oh ****...Shepard, your decision, no matter what, will ultimately (once again) kill huge amounts of people. First you decided which fleets should attack Sovereign, then you decided to blow up a mass relay, then you decided to use the citadel, which blows up...killing what? 18 million?

Sheesh.

Oh look Shepard, the citadel beam destroyed the reapers! Oh wait, supernova. Looks like you wiped out trillions of lives, just like the reapers intended.

And the list goes on and one and on.

Screw this ending.

[sedrikhcain]

Zorziban the Great wrote...

I have just beaten the game series that changed my whole outlook on videogaming. It took me 32 hours to complete Mass Effect 3 on Hardcore difficulty. That is significantly longer than it took me to beat ME1 and ME2. Before I finished the game I heard many bad things about the ending, and how it impacted the universe. However, I still kept playing becaue I wanted to see for myself. What I got was a suprise.

The ending was incredibly satisfying to me, and it wrapped up my favorite game series of all time. I cried, I laughed, and I cried some more throughout the whole emotional rollercoaster that was the single player story. My mind was blown when I realized the true purpose of the Reapers and the Citadel. My only complaints about the ending is that it makes replaying the previous games pointless because we already know what happens in the end. I also feel that any single player DLC starring Shepard that takes place BEFORE the ending of ME3 is pointless, because we already know what is going to happen.

However, with the way the game ended, there is still a possibility for it to continue, with or without shepard. Bioware, I hope you know that I love the universe and characters that you have created, and I hope you decide to continue with this universe and make many more games involving it. Thank you.

????? But the ending destroyed that character universe. This is the spoiler section so I can't say why I feel that way but I don't see how you can like this ending if you want to see more with these characters in this setting. It gone forever.

Modifié par sedrikhcain, 23 mars 2012 - 06:12 .

[Heimdall]

sedrikhcain wrote...

Zorziban the Great wrote...

I have just beaten the game series that changed my whole outlook on videogaming. It took me 32 hours to complete Mass Effect 3 on Hardcore difficulty. That is significantly longer than it took me to beat ME1 and ME2. Before I finished the game I heard many bad things about the ending, and how it impacted the universe. However, I still kept playing becaue I wanted to see for myself. What I got was a suprise.

The ending was incredibly satisfying to me, and it wrapped up my favorite game series of all time. I cried, I laughed, and I cried some more throughout the whole emotional rollercoaster that was the single player story. My mind was blown when I realized the true purpose of the Reapers and the Citadel. My only complaints about the ending is that it makes replaying the previous games pointless because we already know what happens in the end. I also feel that any single player DLC starring Shepard that takes place BEFORE the ending of ME3 is pointless, because we already know what is going to happen.

However, with the way the game ended, there is still a possibility for it to continue, with or without shepard. Bioware, I hope you know that I love the universe and characters that you have created, and I hope you decide to continue with this universe and make many more games involving it. Thank you.

????? But the ending destroyed that character universe. This is the spoiler section so I can't say why I feel that way but I don't see how you can like this ending if you want to see more with these characters in this setting. It gone forever.

Not true.  I explain here.

[da mighty rEAper]

Must have been fun to play with closed eyes

[garf]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Zorziban the Great wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

From what I can tell, the consistency of the ending hinges on how much the player payed attention during said ending.

If you payed astute attention, plot holes and inconsistencies abound. If you were half paying attention (and just got the general gist), then the ending is fine... maybe even "amazing."

Hmmm.. I would like to know what plot holes you are referring to. Can someone message me about some of the plot holes in the ending?

Better off not knowing if you liked the ending count yourself lucky and try with another class.

Hear hear. I respect your likes being different from mine and I envy you. If you're happy. Keep playing. Don't mind us who aren't. Seriously.

[sedrikhcain]

Lord Aesir wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

Zorziban the Great wrote...

I have just beaten the game series that changed my whole outlook on videogaming. It took me 32 hours to complete Mass Effect 3 on Hardcore difficulty. That is significantly longer than it took me to beat ME1 and ME2. Before I finished the game I heard many bad things about the ending, and how it impacted the universe. However, I still kept playing becaue I wanted to see for myself. What I got was a suprise.

The ending was incredibly satisfying to me, and it wrapped up my favorite game series of all time. I cried, I laughed, and I cried some more throughout the whole emotional rollercoaster that was the single player story. My mind was blown when I realized the true purpose of the Reapers and the Citadel. My only complaints about the ending is that it makes replaying the previous games pointless because we already know what happens in the end. I also feel that any single player DLC starring Shepard that takes place BEFORE the ending of ME3 is pointless, because we already know what is going to happen.

However, with the way the game ended, there is still a possibility for it to continue, with or without shepard. Bioware, I hope you know that I love the universe and characters that you have created, and I hope you decide to continue with this universe and make many more games involving it. Thank you.

????? But the ending destroyed that character universe. This is the spoiler section so I can't say why I feel that way but I don't see how you can like this ending if you want to see more with these characters in this setting. It gone forever.

Not true.  I explain here.

I just read the post you linked to. I still stand by my statement. I'll post why on that thread.

[garf]

da mighty rEAper wrote...

Must have been fun to play with closed eyes

Just... civil. please. Disrespecting those who don't agree with us. alienates the sincere ones and gives the insincere provoqatuers what they want. Let's act like the adults we claim to be.

Stay Strong, Stay Civil, Stay on Message.

[Ragebourne]

Only reason I tolerated ending was I had such ridiculously low expectations, funny

[Gibb_Shepard]

Lord Aesir wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

Zorziban the Great wrote...

I have just beaten the game series that changed my whole outlook on videogaming. It took me 32 hours to complete Mass Effect 3 on Hardcore difficulty. That is significantly longer than it took me to beat ME1 and ME2. Before I finished the game I heard many bad things about the ending, and how it impacted the universe. However, I still kept playing becaue I wanted to see for myself. What I got was a suprise.

The ending was incredibly satisfying to me, and it wrapped up my favorite game series of all time. I cried, I laughed, and I cried some more throughout the whole emotional rollercoaster that was the single player story. My mind was blown when I realized the true purpose of the Reapers and the Citadel. My only complaints about the ending is that it makes replaying the previous games pointless because we already know what happens in the end. I also feel that any single player DLC starring Shepard that takes place BEFORE the ending of ME3 is pointless, because we already know what is going to happen.

However, with the way the game ended, there is still a possibility for it to continue, with or without shepard. Bioware, I hope you know that I love the universe and characters that you have created, and I hope you decide to continue with this universe and make many more games involving it. Thank you.

????? But the ending destroyed that character universe. This is the spoiler section so I can't say why I feel that way but I don't see how you can like this ending if you want to see more with these characters in this setting. It gone forever.

Not true.  I explain here.

That is purely assumption based with a nice helping of optimism, as i explained in your thread. FTL cores need to be docked often, potetnially doubling the time it takes to get back (assuming they can find a planet to dock on everytime it's needed); they need a constant supply of fuel and they need a renewing source of food.

It may be possible, but it is ridiculously unrealistic.

[Heimdall]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

Zorziban the Great wrote...

I have just beaten the game series that changed my whole outlook on videogaming. It took me 32 hours to complete Mass Effect 3 on Hardcore difficulty. That is significantly longer than it took me to beat ME1 and ME2. Before I finished the game I heard many bad things about the ending, and how it impacted the universe. However, I still kept playing becaue I wanted to see for myself. What I got was a suprise.

The ending was incredibly satisfying to me, and it wrapped up my favorite game series of all time. I cried, I laughed, and I cried some more throughout the whole emotional rollercoaster that was the single player story. My mind was blown when I realized the true purpose of the Reapers and the Citadel. My only complaints about the ending is that it makes replaying the previous games pointless because we already know what happens in the end. I also feel that any single player DLC starring Shepard that takes place BEFORE the ending of ME3 is pointless, because we already know what is going to happen.

However, with the way the game ended, there is still a possibility for it to continue, with or without shepard. Bioware, I hope you know that I love the universe and characters that you have created, and I hope you decide to continue with this universe and make many more games involving it. Thank you.

????? But the ending destroyed that character universe. This is the spoiler section so I can't say why I feel that way but I don't see how you can like this ending if you want to see more with these characters in this setting. It gone forever.

Not true.  I explain here.

That is purely assumption based with a nice helping of optimism, as i explained in your thread. FTL cores need to be docked often, potetnially doubling the time it takes to get back (assuming they can find a planet to dock on everytime it's needed); they need a constant supply of fuel and they need a renewing source of food.

It may be possible, but it is ridiculously unrealistic.

It's far from unrealistic, only difficult.  FTL cores can be docked in any planetary orbit, there's hardly a shortage of planetoids.  Fuel reserves can be expanded and so can food supplies.  It will require meticulous preparation but this is far from an unrealistic task.

[sedrikhcain]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

Zorziban the Great wrote...

I have just beaten the game series that changed my whole outlook on videogaming. It took me 32 hours to complete Mass Effect 3 on Hardcore difficulty. That is significantly longer than it took me to beat ME1 and ME2. Before I finished the game I heard many bad things about the ending, and how it impacted the universe. However, I still kept playing becaue I wanted to see for myself. What I got was a suprise.

The ending was incredibly satisfying to me, and it wrapped up my favorite game series of all time. I cried, I laughed, and I cried some more throughout the whole emotional rollercoaster that was the single player story. My mind was blown when I realized the true purpose of the Reapers and the Citadel. My only complaints about the ending is that it makes replaying the previous games pointless because we already know what happens in the end. I also feel that any single player DLC starring Shepard that takes place BEFORE the ending of ME3 is pointless, because we already know what is going to happen.

However, with the way the game ended, there is still a possibility for it to continue, with or without shepard. Bioware, I hope you know that I love the universe and characters that you have created, and I hope you decide to continue with this universe and make many more games involving it. Thank you.

????? But the ending destroyed that character universe. This is the spoiler section so I can't say why I feel that way but I don't see how you can like this ending if you want to see more with these characters in this setting. It gone forever.

Not true.  I explain here.

That is purely assumption based with a nice helping of optimism, as i explained in your thread. FTL cores need to be docked often, potetnially doubling the time it takes to get back (assuming they can find a planet to dock on everytime it's needed); they need a constant supply of fuel and they need a renewing source of food.

It may be possible, but it is ridiculously unrealistic.

It's far from unrealistic, only difficult.  FTL cores can be docked in any planetary orbit, there's hardly a shortage of planetoids.  Fuel reserves can be expanded and so can food supplies.  It will require meticulous preparation but this is far from an unrealistic task.

In order for there to be a galactic community, interstellar travel can't just be possible, it has to be relatively easy and accessible to the majority -- or at least a sizeable minory. That is no longer the case in the ME universe.

[Heimdall]

sedrikhcain wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

Zorziban the Great wrote...

I have just beaten the game series that changed my whole outlook on videogaming. It took me 32 hours to complete Mass Effect 3 on Hardcore difficulty. That is significantly longer than it took me to beat ME1 and ME2. Before I finished the game I heard many bad things about the ending, and how it impacted the universe. However, I still kept playing becaue I wanted to see for myself. What I got was a suprise.

The ending was incredibly satisfying to me, and it wrapped up my favorite game series of all time. I cried, I laughed, and I cried some more throughout the whole emotional rollercoaster that was the single player story. My mind was blown when I realized the true purpose of the Reapers and the Citadel. My only complaints about the ending is that it makes replaying the previous games pointless because we already know what happens in the end. I also feel that any single player DLC starring Shepard that takes place BEFORE the ending of ME3 is pointless, because we already know what is going to happen.

However, with the way the game ended, there is still a possibility for it to continue, with or without shepard. Bioware, I hope you know that I love the universe and characters that you have created, and I hope you decide to continue with this universe and make many more games involving it. Thank you.

????? But the ending destroyed that character universe. This is the spoiler section so I can't say why I feel that way but I don't see how you can like this ending if you want to see more with these characters in this setting. It gone forever.

Not true.  I explain here.

That is purely assumption based with a nice helping of optimism, as i explained in your thread. FTL cores need to be docked often, potetnially doubling the time it takes to get back (assuming they can find a planet to dock on everytime it's needed); they need a constant supply of fuel and they need a renewing source of food.

It may be possible, but it is ridiculously unrealistic.

It's far from unrealistic, only difficult.  FTL cores can be docked in any planetary orbit, there's hardly a shortage of planetoids.  Fuel reserves can be expanded and so can food supplies.  It will require meticulous preparation but this is far from an unrealistic task.

In order for there to be a galactic community, interstellar travel can't just be possible, it has to be relatively easy and accessible to the majority -- or at least a sizeable minory. That is no longer the case in the ME universe.

For the time being.

[Midz]

Han Shot First wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i like the endings and others do as well

i dont need a poll to show where i stand on the matter ill flat out tell you

...and some people voted Nader in US presidential elections.

Some people do like the endings, they are just a very small portion of the fanbase.

A lie told often enough becomes the truth. Lenin Russian Communist politician & revolutionary (1870 - 1924)

Consult polls.

There is one on this forum with something like 50,000 votes, and 90% of them do not like the endings.

A lie told often enough becomes the truth. Lenin Russian Communist politician & revolutionary (1870 - 1924)

Except that poll isn't a lie. It exists, as I've voted in it.

What evidence do you have that the majority of fans like the ending? Because from polls, to posts on the BSN, to review sites like Amazon or Metacritic, the hate for the endings is nearly universal.

That's great if you like the ending. I'm happy for you. But you are part of a tiny minority.

Except that poll isn't a lie. It exists, as I've voted in it  ...... Yes and many have done and admitted many times  some voted singularly many created a new mass effect through alts .Others admit  they disliked the ending without even   playing  the game especially true in  metacritic.

The polls indicate  that  a majority who voted disliked the ending  for a variety  reasons thats  all.

They also indicate  that  a  reworking of  the ending  would assuage  one portion and inflame another   given the range of anti opinions .


Personally  I just want  an ending  were  Shepard dies  now did  not before but if  he lives  and  there is  another game,I can see already the demands  for Shepards   return. To avoid  that  kill  dismember   send parts  to different planets  and  build  monuments .

If  not the demands  for   more Shepard   will never cease .

Modifié par Midz, 23 mars 2012 - 01:14 .

[sedrikhcain]

Lord Aesir wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

Zorziban the Great wrote...

I have just beaten the game series that changed my whole outlook on videogaming. It took me 32 hours to complete Mass Effect 3 on Hardcore difficulty. That is significantly longer than it took me to beat ME1 and ME2. Before I finished the game I heard many bad things about the ending, and how it impacted the universe. However, I still kept playing becaue I wanted to see for myself. What I got was a suprise.

The ending was incredibly satisfying to me, and it wrapped up my favorite game series of all time. I cried, I laughed, and I cried some more throughout the whole emotional rollercoaster that was the single player story. My mind was blown when I realized the true purpose of the Reapers and the Citadel. My only complaints about the ending is that it makes replaying the previous games pointless because we already know what happens in the end. I also feel that any single player DLC starring Shepard that takes place BEFORE the ending of ME3 is pointless, because we already know what is going to happen.

However, with the way the game ended, there is still a possibility for it to continue, with or without shepard. Bioware, I hope you know that I love the universe and characters that you have created, and I hope you decide to continue with this universe and make many more games involving it. Thank you.

????? But the ending destroyed that character universe. This is the spoiler section so I can't say why I feel that way but I don't see how you can like this ending if you want to see more with these characters in this setting. It gone forever.

Not true.  I explain here.

That is purely assumption based with a nice helping of optimism, as i explained in your thread. FTL cores need to be docked often, potetnially doubling the time it takes to get back (assuming they can find a planet to dock on everytime it's needed); they need a constant supply of fuel and they need a renewing source of food.

It may be possible, but it is ridiculously unrealistic.

It's far from unrealistic, only difficult.  FTL cores can be docked in any planetary orbit, there's hardly a shortage of planetoids.  Fuel reserves can be expanded and so can food supplies.  It will require meticulous preparation but this is far from an unrealistic task.

In order for there to be a galactic community, interstellar travel can't just be possible, it has to be relatively easy and accessible to the majority -- or at least a sizeable minory. That is no longer the case in the ME universe.

For the time being.

That time being somewhere in the neighborhood of about 100,000 years.

[Heimdall]

Unlikely

[tetrisblock4x1]

Um, guys... ME3 had nothing but downer endings. In a SPACE OPERA epic no less, in which the other 2 preceding parts of the whole trilogy had happy endings. The fact is that ME is a genre which is well known to end on a happy or at least optimistic tone, and the fact that ME 1 and 2s ending both conformed to that expectation while 3 did not... well, **** guys, but having ME3 with a downer ending sounds like it could be a pretty big deal to a whole lot of people if you ask me.

[tetrisblock4x1]

TheseAreMyToys wrote...

How can you say you've learned anything from the ending Zorziban the Great? I'm paraphrasing here: "I've created these synthetic machines to kill you so you aren't killed by synthetic machines that you or someone else will make."

I'm sorry but to me thats a recipe for how 5 years of awesome ME gaming is destroyed in 5 minutes.

You need to think about a little bit for it to make sense.

What are the Reapers? Synthetic/organic hybrids.

What do the Reapers want? They want to turn the galaxy into organic soup every 50k years so that they can make more synthetic/organic hybrids

What are Synthetics? Machines. They're not organic at all, and they have no use for us.

What happens when a synthetic AI gets pissed off? They go insane like Skynet from Terminator lore and decide that they want to kill every non-synthetic lifeform that ever existed. This means no more organics to reap and no more sythetic/organic hybrids for the reapers.

I know that it's possible for synthetics to get along with organics, but peace doesn't last forever, and according to the Overlord DLC all it takes is for a single AI like EDI to infect some kind of galactic mainframe and blow the whole galaxy to pieces... and it's only a matter of time before the Geth turn hostile, or some human decides to create their own army of robots and AIs. I can understand why the Reapers think it's not worth the risk.

Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 23 mars 2012 - 02:16 .

[Sangheili_1337]

Warden130 wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

From what I can tell, the consistency of the ending hinges on how much the player payed attention during said ending.

If you payed astute attention, plot holes and inconsistencies abound. If you were half paying attention (and just got the general gist), then the ending is fine... maybe even "amazing."

Or maybe he liked the ending. Believe it or not but not everyone shares your opinion.

So you are saying he liked the plot holes then. It is a fact that the endings made zero sense, no way to get around it.

[Heimdall]

Sangheili_1337 wrote...

Warden130 wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

From what I can tell, the consistency of the ending hinges on how much the player payed attention during said ending.

If you payed astute attention, plot holes and inconsistencies abound. If you were half paying attention (and just got the general gist), then the ending is fine... maybe even "amazing."

Or maybe he liked the ending. Believe it or not but not everyone shares your opinion.

So you are saying he liked the plot holes then. It is a fact that the endings made zero sense, no way to get around it.

They do make sense, save for a few strange things about the Normandy crash.