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[Mr. Gogeta34]

The Razman wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Not hating, just stating a fact.

You seem to have confused your opinion with fact.

That's rather unfortunate.

I wish that were the case, but you're welcome to try and prove that the ending had no plot holes or inconsistencies if you want.. we can start right now.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

For the record, I still give Mass Effect 3 a 94%.

Does that make any defender's head spin?

[kbct]

xsdob wrote...

Exclusion is the new policy of the BSN, All who do not conform to majority opinion will be condescended to and shunned as being ignorant and inferior.

With time, we will develop ways to ban users for not giving into the consensus, All will be unified in hate! All will be consumed in loathing! ALL WILL BE ASSIMILATED!!!

==This statement may or may not be a hyperbolic joke==

Is it worse to be an idiot or a demanding whiner?

[AkiKishi]

apotheosic wrote...

Glad someone liked the ending.

I'm inclined to defend it to some degree, just because of all the ridiculous over-reaction, over-analysis, and general rage over it in the other forum.

Those people are very familiar with the lore and thus follow the end events to the logical conclusion and are repulsed by the implications.

[xsdob]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

From what I can tell, the consistency of the ending hinges on how much the player payed attention during said ending.

If you payed astute attention, plot holes and inconsistencies abound. If you were half paying attention (and just got the general gist), then the ending is fine... maybe even "amazing."

Way to phrase your argument in the most confrontational, condesending, fox news-esque, way.

Way to go!

I wasn't talking about his happiness with the endings... I was talking about the "consistency" of the endings.  I bolded that part of my quote there for you.  It wasn't meant to be condescending, just an observation.

You also said that only if you were'nt paying attention were the
endings fine, suggesting that all who did like the endings simply lack
the attention span neccisary to unterstand how bad they were.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

xsdob wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

From what I can tell, the consistency of the ending hinges on how much the player payed attention during said ending.

If you payed astute attention, plot holes and inconsistencies abound. If you were half paying attention (and just got the general gist), then the ending is fine... maybe even "amazing."

Way to phrase your argument in the most confrontational, condesending, fox news-esque, way.

Way to go!

I wasn't talking about his happiness with the endings... I was talking about the "consistency" of the endings.  I bolded that part of my quote there for you.  It wasn't meant to be condescending, just an observation.

You also said that only if you were'nt paying attention were the
endings fine, suggesting that all who did like the endings simply lack
the attention span neccisary to unterstand how bad they were.

Naturally, an ending with plot holes and inconsistencies is not "fine."  Try not to look too far into it.  Has nothing to do with attention span, just attention payed.

[Ozzy57]

I do agree there are plot holes and several inconsistencies but if you enjoyed it great.

[xsdob]

kbct wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Exclusion is the new policy of the BSN, All who do not conform to majority opinion will be condescended to and shunned as being ignorant and inferior.

With time, we will develop ways to ban users for not giving into the consensus, All will be unified in hate! All will be consumed in loathing! ALL WILL BE ASSIMILATED!!!

==This statement may or may not be a hyperbolic joke==

Is it worse to be an idiot or a demanding whiner?

I was describing the reaction that people who hate the endings tend to have to people who don't hate the endings, if that wasn't clear.

[apotheosic]

BobSmith101 wrote...

apotheosic wrote...

Glad someone liked the ending.

I'm inclined to defend it to some degree, just because of all the ridiculous over-reaction, over-analysis, and general rage over it in the other forum.

Those people are very familiar with the lore and thus follow the end events to the logical conclusion and are repulsed by the implications.

See? There you go again with your condescencion. I am extremely well-versed in mass effect. I read every codex in every game, all of the CDN, have done every possible quest over upwards of 4 playthroughs in ME1 and 2. I know my mass effect damnit.
That doesn't mean I have to hate the ending. I don't love it either, but in my opinion the only thing wrong with the ending is what it doesn't do, not what it does "wrong."
9/10 of the arguments you can make for plotholes and inconsistencies in the ending can be just as easily argued in the opposite direction, but the only reason they can be is because the ending is so DAMN ambiguous. The direction the ending took was a good one, it just lacked substance.

[AJRimmsey]

Good to see the OP liked the ending

sad to see the same couple of people trying to derail yet another thread from someone who liked the game by trying to ram thier opinion down everyones throat.

getting monotonous now.

[bleachorange]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

From what I can tell, the consistency of the ending hinges on how much the player payed attention during said ending.

If you payed astute attention, plot holes and inconsistencies abound. If you were half paying attention (and just got the general gist), then the ending is fine... maybe even "amazing."

*raises hand*
I second the motion!

[Glitch007]

I'm glad someone liked it, personally not a fan, and more than a little confused at the state of play for the universe afterwards, however the thing that REALLY bothers me is the lies we were told, just one for example:

Casey Hudson, Jan 10th 2012:


"It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings,where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them.”

Really Mr Hudson, that is a sensationalist claim...

[bleachorange]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...


He could like the plot holes and lore inconsistencies... but who truly appreciates that?

Trolls appreciate it.

[Ozzy57]

Not trying to seem full of hate because I'm not hating those who like or think the ending is good but I am curious as to how some plot holes can be argued the other way and alot of people think the direction the end went was racist

[BigNastE]

For me it was all about the journey. Of course people who didn't like it are going to be the most vocal. I'm just going to be pissed if we end up with the Normandy crew singing Kum By Ya by campfire because of all of this fan rage.

[Ozzy57]

Glitch007 wrote...

I'm glad someone liked it, personally not a fan, and more than a little confused at the state of play for the universe afterwards, however the thing that REALLY bothers me is the lies we were told, just one for example:

Casey Hudson, Jan 10th 2012:


"It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings,where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and variety in them.”

Really Mr Hudson, that is a sensationalist claim...

I agree that is probably the most troublesome

[BigNastE]

Ozzy57 wrote...

Not trying to seem full of hate because I'm not hating those who like or think the ending is good but I am curious as to how some plot holes can be argued the other way and alot of people think the direction the end went was racist

"racist"  here we go.  If you all get Al Sharpton involved in this I'm done with this world.

[Ozzy57]

BigNastE wrote...

For me it was all about the journey. Of course people who didn't like it are going to be the most vocal. I'm just going to be pissed if we end up with the Normandy crew singing Kum By Ya by campfire because of all of this fan rage.

The journey was great wasn't it. IMO the ending is completely lackluster compared to the journey

[Ozzy57]

BigNastE wrote...

Ozzy57 wrote...

Not trying to seem full of hate because I'm not hating those who like or think the ending is good but I am curious as to how some plot holes can be argued the other way and alot of people think the direction the end went was racist

"racist"  here we go.  If you all get Al Sharpton involved in this I'm done with this world.

I don't think it is but there are people who have made a strong case for it, just for giggles you should read them.

[Conway044]

I liked the endings the first time I saw them in Deus Ex. It fit much better with the over arching themes of the game and the cutscenes, while short, were all different.

[Izithel]

I liked Mass effect 3s ending... if it was the ending to another totally unrelated game...

In general the ending raises to many new questions, keeps to many old questions un-awnserd and is filled with things that just do not make sense at...

It was a cool ending, but it by no means felt like a conclusion to me.

[nevar00]

I'm glad you liked it.

I just wouldn't call a dues ex machina, plot holes, lack of actual choices for different endings, lack of my decisions having any impact in the end (and even being made obsolete), and no closure "amazing" though. Far from it.

[Uchimura]

I've settled on the idea that the whole game is the 'ending' in itself, Shepard's ending being a piece of the puzzle that affects every important contact he still has in a very critical way. No, they're not all with him at the end, but many of them do have conclusions in the game. eg. Miranda and her family, Mordin and the Krogans, Legion and Geth, Quarians and Tali... the list goes on.

With that in mind, as even the complainers say, it was a great game. And subsequently a great ending.

[bleachorange]

Oh, and I'm honestly not hating on an individual - I'm enjoying witty repartee.

The plot holes killed it for me. I played the ending again, and saw the same ending even though I chose a different choice. My hatred developed from there. The only way of viewing the ending as is that I could make some kind of sense of was indoctrination. So I latched on, and am holding on for dear life.

[felipejiraya]

It's funny to see how some knuckleheads are trying to dichotomize this issue: if you like the ending you're a moron who can't be a real Mass Effect fan and if you don't like it you're one of the most illuminated persons of the damn world and a real scholar of the franchise lore.