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[AkiKishi]

apotheosic wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

apotheosic wrote...

Glad someone liked the ending.

I'm inclined to defend it to some degree, just because of all the ridiculous over-reaction, over-analysis, and general rage over it in the other forum.

Those people are very familiar with the lore and thus follow the end events to the logical conclusion and are repulsed by the implications.

See? There you go again with your condescencion. I am extremely well-versed in mass effect. I read every codex in every game, all of the CDN, have done every possible quest over upwards of 4 playthroughs in ME1 and 2. I know my mass effect damnit.
That doesn't mean I have to hate the ending. I don't love it either, but in my opinion the only thing wrong with the ending is what it doesn't do, not what it does "wrong."
9/10 of the arguments you can make for plotholes and inconsistencies in the ending can be just as easily argued in the opposite direction, but the only reason they can be is because the ending is so DAMN ambiguous. The direction the ending took was a good one, it just lacked substance.

It's not really condencending it just explains why they hold the veiws they do when others do not. It's not a like a badge of honour to be familiar with the lore, some people don't care about it and thats fine. They will obviously have a different outlook on the endings.

[Shinobu]

Atakuma wrote...

I like the ending, even though it didn't make any sense whatsoever.

That's because anime desensitizes us to unfathomable endings. I can't count the number of times I've gotten to the end of an anime only to say: "That was cool, but WTF happened?"

[AJRimmsey]

felipejiraya wrote...

It's funny to see how some knuckleheads are trying to dichotomize this issue: if you like the ending you're a moron who can't be a real Mass Effect fan and if you don't like it you're one of the most illuminated persons of the damn world and a real scholar of the franchise lore.

its like the harry potter books and films.
most people read and watched some good films.

others nitpicked them and dressed up to go buy or watch them.
tell those nitpickers to keep thier opinions to themselves and watch the fireworks of self defence.

the phrase "its just a book/film" either has them think on thier level of interest or just rant back.
the truth hurts more than simply ranting..so they rant

[WesmanY2k]

When I first saw the ending, I was quite happy with it... but I couldn't stop thinking about it - mission accomplished, Bioware? Dont think so.

Wasn't until the next day that I realized my problem - then ending made me think - well, wtf did I just do all that for - yes, its about the journey, and that's why I loved the game - its also why I cant understand how they can muck up the ending with so many things that are counter-intuitive to the framework of the series.

[ADelusiveMan]

As an ending in general, yeah sure, it was pretty cool. In a cliched, Neo kind of way.
As a Mass Effect ending...not so much.
Nothing against the game as a whole though. Most of it was terrific.

[djspectre]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

From what I can tell, the consistency of the ending hinges on how much the player payed attention during said ending.

If you payed astute attention, plot holes and inconsistencies abound. If you were half paying attention (and just got the general gist), then the ending is fine... maybe even "amazing."

This is true all of it. I loved the ending, but then also noticed the plot holes created during it. 

Though I do agree with the OP that I enjoyed the ending, visually and emotionally in a lot of regards. 

Oh well, it sure beats the endings of dozens of other games I've played before this trilogy. 

[Ozzy57]

not a nitpick here just some food for thought think about the end of the game and look at the colors shown representing certain aspects and the people within them and then think back about the color of choices represented throughout the series

[dragonflight288]

I thoroughly enjoyed the game. If Wrex died on Virmire, I'd be more than happy taking the Dalatrass up on her suggestion to fake curing the genophage. But with Wrex in charge and that he has a lot more foresight than other Krogan, I'm more inclined to believe him when he says he won't let other Krogan take their frustrations out on the Turians and the Salarians. What happens in ME1 influences the decision I made in ME3 when dealing with that issue.

Same with the Geth and the Quarians. Do I blow up the heretics or rewrite them? I seriously considered one over the other, but preferred considering long-term consequences and potentials, well before December 2011. And my decision payed off in the end. What happened there influenced what happened in ME3.

The journey was amazing and I was more than happy leading up to the epic battle against the Reapers. The ending was kind of cliche' (if it was the ending, the game is not finished until all DLC's are exhausted...except equipment DLCs) but I can make do, live to play another game, and just get on with my life.

[AJRimmsey]

Ozzy57 wrote...

not a nitpick here just some food for thought think about the end of the game and look at the colors shown representing certain aspects and the people within them and then think back about the color of choices represented throughout the series

damn...

i missed the colours,
game was so immersive i was stuck playing it and having a wail of a time.

i suppose if it was more than just a game i could sit down and think through every tiny aspect,but that would ruin it for me personally as i dont like to over analyse my entertainment.

[xsdob]

The endings are ok, and that's it. They're just ok, they don't leave as big of an emotional impact as they should. Some parts I liked, the choice I made and parts of the conversation. Other parts, such as the lead up to the choices and one of the consequences they have, I didn't like.

The good and bad of the endings balance out into a pragmatic ending, an ending that serves to end a series and nothing more, it doesn't destroy everything the series built up, like many say, but it doesn't reward or gratify as much as it should, it simply does it's job and ends.

It reminds me of the hitchhikers guide to the galaxies ending, in which the book simply ends with out the necessary steps of making a satisfying ending.

[Thompson family]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

From what I can tell, the consistency of the ending hinges on how much the player payed attention during said ending.

If you payed astute attention, plot holes and inconsistencies abound. If you were half paying attention (and just got the general gist), then the ending is fine... maybe even "amazing."

Ah, the old "people who disagree with me are dumb" argument.

[AJRimmsey]

Thompson family wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

From what I can tell, the consistency of the ending hinges on how much the player payed attention during said ending.

If you payed astute attention, plot holes and inconsistencies abound. If you were half paying attention (and just got the general gist), then the ending is fine... maybe even "amazing."

Ah, the old "people who disagree with me are dumb" argument.

best inspector clouseau voice ?

[djspectre]

Ozzy57 wrote...

not a nitpick here just some food for thought think about the end of the game and look at the colors shown representing certain aspects and the people within them and then think back about the color of choices represented throughout the series

I noticed the colors too and the options/people represented. It was a nice subtlety within the game. 

[Ozzy57]

djspectre wrote...

Ozzy57 wrote...

not a nitpick here just some food for thought think about the end of the game and look at the colors shown representing certain aspects and the people within them and then think back about the color of choices represented throughout the series

I noticed the colors too and the options/people represented. It was a nice subtlety within the game. 

now think back throughout the series and at the end of 3 stay consistent?

[Kitteh303]

Even though I would have done the endings differently and I'm as gung-ho as the next person about ending/whatever DLC, I still liked it. I felt a bunch of emotion, so I'd say bioware accomplished what they intended.

[The Razman]

We gotta just accept it ... wherever there's people who like something which other people hate, there's going to be people who are condescending and try and claim it's because those people are uneducated, ignorant, or just plain stupid.

[dragonflight288]

Like politics!

[bleachorange]

dragonflight288 wrote...

Like politics!

Yes! grass-roots vs corporate personhood! yay!

[dragonflight288]

hahaha. Human nature vs common sense....uncommon sense usually loses.

[Rohna]

Great ending but i had color problems all endings had the same color for me i couldnt realy say wich was the green and wich was the red one

[dragonflight288]

Red is destroy, Green is synthesis, blue is control.



Morphius: I have multiple colored pills to choose from.

Modifié par dragonflight288, 17 mars 2012 - 03:29 .

[Habs25]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

From what I can tell, the consistency of the ending hinges on how much the player payed attention during said ending.

If you payed astute attention, plot holes and inconsistencies abound. If you were half paying attention (and just got the general gist), then the ending is fine... maybe even "amazing."

There's no need to belittle people who liked the ending, most likely, they have a different perspective, maybe the picked on other things the so called mases did not.

[bleachorange]

TIM takes his cigar out of his mouth and fixes his stare on you,"Between you and me," he says, gesticulating,"common sense isn't so common as you'd like to think."
He continues,"Is it common sense to invest 2 billion credits into reviving one person from the dead? Look what that did for the galaxy. Great minds think for themselves; they don't listen to the sycophantic whimperings of others." He ends the transmission.

Modifié par bleachorange, 17 mars 2012 - 03:37 .

[mauro2222]

kbct wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Exclusion is the new policy of the BSN, All who do not conform to majority opinion will be condescended to and shunned as being ignorant and inferior.

With time, we will develop ways to ban users for not giving into the consensus, All will be unified in hate! All will be consumed in loathing! ALL WILL BE ASSIMILATED!!!

==This statement may or may not be a hyperbolic joke==

Is it worse to be an idiot or a demanding whiner?

An idiot... what kind of question is that? the demanding whiner at least knows that there is a problem and wants change, the idiot just accepts everything as it is... and that's why the abuse becomes stronger with time.

[dragonflight288]

TIM takes his cigar out of his mouth and fixes his stare on you,"Between you and me," he says, gesticulating,"common sense isn't so common as you'd like to think."
He continues,"Is it common sense to invest 2 billion credits into reviving one person from the dead? Look what that did for the galaxy. Great minds think for themselves; they don't listen to the sycophantic whimperings of others." He ends the transmission.

*stares at hologram console* Okay...*rings up Conrad Vernor* Up for a card game? But go easy on the new guy.