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#5151
mjb203

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gendocrono wrote...

mjb203

Thank a lot for your post ;)


No, thank you gendocrono!  That was a very well written letter that really needed to be reposted in this thread!

#5152
mikeaj1024

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Other than the ending which has been discussed to death I wish there were a few minor tweaks made to new game plus. Things that I feel would help to encourage replay value.

First off there should be a bonus for completing the game the first time. Something that gives you an initial sum of credits and more from each mission. Also a bonus to experience received for each mission.

This leads to the second thing which would be the ability to import a character without their level. I like starting at level one and building myself up, but I don't want to play a 'new' character and miss out on all the side characters and missions.

Third would be level X weapons should be available to all characters after the first play-through. The weight reduction allows for a lot more experimentation. But i would rather start a different class then replay my initial one again. Maybe even making them all available from the start at stores.

#5153
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Please do an in-game reveal of Tali's face if she was your romance option. There was a perfect opportunity at the end of the Rannoch mission when Tali removed her helmet, but then nothing! Instead all we got was the photoshopped stock photo. Having waited anxiously for more than two years, since she took off the helmet in Shep's cabin, it was a huge disappointment not to see more of her. If you base her appearance on the photo, I believe it should be altered to appear a little more alien.

As for future DLC, I would love to see Aria become a playable crew member. Although I admit, having two Asari biotics may be a little redundant. Maybe she could just team with us to take back Omega.

Also the ending of course, but that seems to be pretty well covered, so I won't go into that. Besides, I'm one of those who believe you are talented writers and this ending was meant to inspire controversy and build anticipation for future DLC, while you already have the "real" ending up your sleeve.

Thank you for listening, and thank you for all the hours of enjoyment over the past several years.

#5154
Renew81

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- Fix the ending
- More dialogue
- More Renagade/Paragon interupts
- Better Quest Log ( why did you mess with this to begin with ? )
- normal running/walking animations ( the current one are poor, me 2 was better )
- Exploration ( me 1 and 2 had vehicle exploration ) why not 3 ? Missions , NOT scanning.
- Remove the VERY annoying blue security screen on the normandy that has no purpose at all.

These are my main things.

Currently the game has no replay value in my opinion bioware succeeded to destroy there
entire mass effect franchise in 10 minuts with unlogical , rushed and unfinished ending.

The choices ( A,B,C aka Red , Blue , Green ) where lame , at the end i also felt
completley alienated from shepard bioware just assumed direct control over him
and i had to watch how shepard just swallows what presented to him at the ver LAST MINUTE of a trilogy , very UNoriginal in my opinion to introduce this Catalyst "Godchild"

The quality of mass effect 3 is far far below that of me 1 and 2
there are some good moments in me 3 ( Mordin , Thane , Geth/Quarian )
but overall its a game full of dissapointment and did not deliver.

Sure the graphics are nice and the combat is good , the weapons are
good and the sounds of them are simply excellent , its the story that made
mass effect a great game for me and that stroy was completly trown away at the end.

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Compared to what many others have suggested, this will seem minor, but I have to say it: Whatever you do Bioware, make sure you put the 'Mass Effect Theme' in there somewhere!

It's a great theme, and it is badly underused in ME3. I've listened to the soundtrack now and can only find it in "The Fleet Arrive", which is a fantastic piece and a great moment from the game, but that's all I've found. I've listened many times to "The Suicide Mission" and "The End Run" from the ME2 soundtrack, and the score just makes the whole thing that bit more epic.

So please, make use of the theme once more.

#5156
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No changes. Just finish up the battle for earth! Please, DO NOT do a 'five years later' epilogue - that would ruin it. I just want to know that you haven't forgotten the rest of the characters- just show them fighting on earth or something. And the forces that I brought to earth - I want to know that they were actually there - or else what's the point?

I just realized I am disregarding the whole jungle planet/normandy thing. I don't really count that as closure, and I am kind of assuming that the indoctrination theory is true.

#5157
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Well I just played through the whole trilogy again I doubt I can voice any new and origianl thoughts after 207 pages but I think i just want to help the others to raise the numbers... or something like that.

what didn't really like in the thrid installment that i could not carry heavy weapons I mean a rocket luncher that was my fav in Me2 i miss it and against the reapers would have been a really good edge.

I loved the story of the whole game our decisions really conted well what we made in the previous games. and I loved that whenever I went to the "cockpit" and made joker talk or any of the crew talk they would tell me something and the doorwoman their conversation after every mission was very interesting i liked it itt felt really alive the whole ship. I liked the idea that joker and EDI got together I always missed in Bioware games the our companions can not romance each other but I have seen a video that Garrus and Tali can get together if Garrus not an Li. so i really liked this.

I did not like the idea that even if I get every war asset int the galaxy I can't raise my army over 5000 only If I a played a little multiplayer (sorry maybe i sucked) but for me I needid o play multi for to get 5000 or over it. and I'm not a big fan of multi.

well about the appearance I loved the hair styles and that you let us have more choices about it but at least you could have make the npc have something different one or 2 styles so that We can se the difference between our shepard and the npc. in the begin scene when Shepard was gonna see the admirals the woman had the same hair style as my shep we nearly looked identical except the color.

About the graphic I loved and not I could not see the improvement between ME2 and 3 even though the scenery was beautiful I could not feel the futurism in it.

what I'm going to say now maybe will be a little bit harsh but that thing kinda irritated me very much on the ship. In DA2 the dog was a playable character that you coould bring with you on the mission. Now what was the reason the give shepard a robodog?!
I could not take him to missions I could not even talk to it because that was not an option so what the use of a dog on the ship when I can't do anything with it except tossing it out on tha airlock but that option was not possible so please tell me what was the reason for a dog staying on the normandy when I could not do anything with it???

and maybe lastly about the ending. as Garrus says it needsa little calibrations on it.
even though the decision that we made in the previous games we could see the results her but what about the decision that we made in the third game and I'm not talking about when we saved Samara killing herself and then talking to her before the last battle I'm talking about saving the geth then killing them in the end I'm why save a civilisation when we sacrifice them in the end. I understand that the catalist tooko the kid form cause shepard needid to comprehend or see somehow the catalist but why a human I'm mean we are in the future talking to someone who was before us in the cycle maybe the very begining of the universe but still he was more advanced that "kid" created the reapers a very advanced machines even in our times so it could have been a little bit of an alien and less human.
Anyway I didn't like the idea shepard facing it alone and figthing it alone in the end thats why we had companions with us so they can suggest and I brought the sam companions with me for al the 3 last battle and now doing it alone just was not good enough. and the last time we didn't even had a fight we just talked with them. It like irony cause in the beggining shepard says the war comitte is a waste of time.
and that the mas relays are destoryed what happens to the stranded alines on earth I mean the krogans are not famous for their patience. and what happened to the ships aroound earth?

Even though the game answered a lot of questions we had but It made ask more question and what about the stranded normandy....

I'm not alone when I say I got the feeling that we will have a dlc about what happens next but didn't you promise that it wil be a closure to the story...

and the very last thing I have this feeling the this trilogy was only a prologue to another story that will be played in a further future not because of the child and the stargazer but because you deastroyed the relays and the ending...
but that another thing.

and one more it jsut poped into my mind in this moment.
At least you could have showed us the female version of salarian and turian I mean I thin kthe dalatrass was a female but I coould not see the difference between the male and female. we know that the asari only have females but the turians and salarians have females it would have been good to see the opposite sex of the species to make it a litle bit more interesting.

well that all my thoughts for now thank you for reading it

and I loved the game until the last mission for me tha game did not fail only the ending need a little bit of calibrations

#5158
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I just finished the game about ..oh....5 minutes ago. I picked the 'green' ending. While it pains me to see my Shep choose to shepherd in a new cycle of existence and he never got to retire with little blue babies and Liara, I think it was really really a great way to end. I realize zonking out the synthetics from the universe would have had him live, but my Shep made the ultimate sacrifice for the universe and is a legend. Pretty awesome. Sad, but awesome.

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macrocarl wrote...

I just finished the game about ..oh....5 minutes ago. I picked the 'green' ending. While it pains me to see my Shep choose to shepherd in a new cycle of existence and he never got to retire with little blue babies and Liara, I think it was really really a great way to end. I realize zonking out the synthetics from the universe would have had him live, but my Shep made the ultimate sacrifice for the universe and is a legend. Pretty awesome. Sad, but awesome.



Don't want to burst your bubble but if the ending stands everyone dies nonetheless the mass relays explode destroying all the systems which contain relays or starve to death because they can't get out of the sol system

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Mastone

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Bioware just do this or something similar:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9992961/407#10560783

Then thou shallt be forgiven

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Aver88

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I have just one request. Jack as squadmate. She is the best female character in video games history. She deserves something more than being unimportant, minor NPC.

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CorpralKarl

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Please:
1. Eliminate the Plot Holes. Such as:
-Uniting the Galaxy and then M.E.R. blow up, which results in the destruction of the Star System.
-Joker running like a scared B****.
-Joker running like a scared B****, WITH my squadmates that accompanied me on the final mission.
2.More (Better) Paragon/Renegade options with the catalyst.
3.Different Endings: Despite my objections with the endings, I did multiple playthroughs and they were EXTREMELY similar.
4. The Royal Flush Ending: The one option that Shepard gets everything right, beats everything, happy ending with Tali, Liara, etc.... While all the loss is good realism, some customers prefer to suspend disbelief and dramatically win since it is a game.

That covers most of my things, and I hope for the best. Bioware, you created a GREAT product and should be proud that everybody feels so strongly for it.
Peace.

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And where is the Krogan squadmate? Please give us a Krogan squadmate

EDIT: And, What is the deal with the flashbacks you have before you die? Why do people who romanced the VS get to see him/her, and people who romanced Liara get to see her aswel, but people who romanced a ME2 introduced character (ie. Jack or Thane) get also stuck with Liara?

Just another example of how ME3 shows no love at all for ME2 characters? Why did you do this BioWare? And if the ending stays mostly the same, can you at least fix this?

Modifié par Firmijn, 25 mars 2012 - 09:23 .


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i've been a loyal fan up until the ending of mass effect3, holding hope that shepard will get a happy ending.

THIS ( http://social.biowar...10560313-1.html  ) BETTER BE A FKING FAKE!!!!!!

This is the worst garbage i ever could have imagined!!!!  IF this is not Fake i Will NVR by another bioware title again!!!

PLEASE do not do anything bad to my shepard!!!  She is a hero!!!  Happy ending = retirement of character!  maybe as an Admiral Hackett Character!!!

#5165
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I'm hesitant to give specifics. I think that it should be Bioware's decision, based on feedback about what was wrong with the endings (plot holes, deus ex machina, etc.). Otherwise we risk the danger of ending up with something that plays out like a bad fan-fic (which I've seen a few posts already like that).

But, I'll toss in my two cents. Here's what would have made the most sense to me.

In ME1, you have no chance against Sovereign. The entire fleet is being decimated, and not making a dent. Then suddenly, they destroy it. Why? Because Shepard kills him. When Sovereign inhabits Saren's body, and Shepard kills him, it weakens Sovereign's mind or will or even kills him outright.

ME3 should end the same way. The catalyst is Shepard. The Crucible is an antenna that connects Shepard's mind to the Reapers, and now you are in a mental battle - a test of wills to destroy these machines where they are weakest. I think you could roll the previous ending into that using Indoctrination Theory. If you pick the destroy option, they're weaker and/or you're stronger. Pick the other two and you are at a disadvantage. To me, that is the ultimate expression of what the series was about - the strength of the human spirit.

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My suggestion is for DLC: (besides the ending fix which is obviously needed) I feel a hub area with missions, and a recruitable character would add MUCH to the game.

The Citadel on ME3 was the best of the series, but having just that still felt lacking compared to the second game, with Omega, Ilium and even the Liara's ship.

Modifié par bryceax, 25 mars 2012 - 09:50 .


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I loved Mass Effect 3, and the rest of the ME trilogy as well.  I didn't hate the ending nor did I love it.  I enjoyed the philosophical aspect of all three of them, but what was disappointing to me was the following:

1-I would've loved to coordinate more of the "final attack" on Earth, just like we did before during the suicide mission at the end of Mass Effect 2.  I think that by just having drell, elcor, krogan, among others, fighting alongside each other would have done wonders to the last mission, as it would've have given us gamers a sense of satisfaction witnessing the whole galaxy coming together as one to take down such a powerful foe.

2-I, like so many others, wanted more closure with the other squadmates of mines, most notably those from ME2 who were largely regalated to cameo appearance or very small yet vital roles.  I loved the fact that I got to say "goodbye" to Liara, Garrus, Javik, Wrex, Tali, and everybody else, but I felt that doing so with my other ME2-centric squadmates such as Jack, Grunt, and Miranda felt hollow and discoonected.  I'd also like to point out that we never find out how our crew got back on the Normandy or how Joker decided to leave the fight, abandoning the fleets and Shepard back on Earth.  That's very out of character, although Joker fighting to save the ship from the blast was admittedly nice.

3-The end cinematic for all three choices at the very end of the game were too similar.  Making them more different would be great.  Also, it'd be nice if you guys could add a epilogue of sorts to wrap up all the plot holes.  I'm not asking for a Fallout 3-esque epilogue that's basically a slideshow with a narrator or a MGS4-esque epilogue that stretches out for nearly an hour (although Kojima did do that epliogue masterfully), I just want a Halo 3-esque epilogue where we everybody mourning the death of the hero, where we see the impact that our Shepard had on the galaxy, how the races are coping with the defeat of the Reapers and the destruction of so much that they loved and cherished.  Have Liara or whatever LI the player had talking to the son or daughter they had with Shepard.  Let our LI tell be the one to tell Shepard's story.  I find that that would be more emotionally satisfying than the Stargazer talking to one another.

4-Wrap some of the plot holes that were neeedlessly brought up by the Catalyst, most notably its reasoning that organincs and synthetics can't co-exist with one another.  Most of us have just made peace between the Geth and the Quarians, (synthetics and organics, resptively) and we have also shown E.D.I. that "true" meaning of life, of love, of free-will, yet this omnipotent, transparent child tells me that its simply impossible for us to co-exist?  No, I can't have that.  There should be an investigative-type of conversation with the Catalyst where I can make it question its own logic because its logic is very flawed.  Very flawed, indeed.  I want Shepard to be defiant because he's always been that way.  Shepard's not a "yes man" who agrees to anything that people tell him to do.  Shepard's got a mind, a voice.  Let him/her use it.

5-One thing that irked me throughout the whole game--and especially at the end--is the absence of Harbinger.  I mean, he was so threatening throughout ME2 that I thought he'd have a larger role to play in this concluding chapter of the ME trilogy, considering the fact that Harby is the leader of the Reaper armada.  It's shameful that Lieutanant-Bastard Kail Leng had more of a menancing role than him.  I rejoiced when Harbinger was leaving the fight and coming back down to Earth in order to stop me from the reaching the beam.  Yet when he arrives, he says nothing.  Harbinger saying nothing?  Seriously?  This bastard never shuts up, but when its finally time to see him, up close and personal, he says nothing?  That's disappointing.  Make him be his usual cocky, condenscending self.  I want to hear, "You have failed, Shepard!" or "Your efforts to stop us have been in vain, Shepard.  Your end has come!"  I don't know.  Something like that.

6-I don't know what the new DLC is going to add/alter to the original, canonical endings, but I would like to see you brilliant minds at Bioware add an entirely new "happy" as well.  Make it the hardest one to get.  I don't care if its required to get 10, 000 EMS in order to achieve it, but it'd be nice to have an ending where everything goes the way we planned: the Reapers are destroyed, Shepard lives alongside his/her crewmates and LI, and the rest of the galaxy is seen recovering with the tone of prosperity and peace in the air.  Show Shepard with Garrus and Jacob at the bar (they owe a beer, if I recall) or Shepard collecting seashells at the beach with his LI and kids (its very cheesy and corny, I know, but its what Mordin what would've wanted.

Everything else about the game was practically perfect (except the journal and side quests). and I commend you guys for creating the greatest series that has ever graced the beautiful medium of interactive art known as videogames.  You guys, and whatver you end up doing, have my full support.  I'm perfectly fine with how this game and this series, as a whole, turned out.  Unlike so many others, who are very rude and unappreciative of what you've given us, I thank you.  I sincerelly do.  You've given me one of the most profound and personal experiences that I've gone through in my life.  No matters what happens, let it be known that you guys at Bioware are the best in the videogame industry (with Kojima Productions right behind you) and that all of this negative reaction, whether it'd be geared towards the [optional] homosexual relationships in the game, the Day-One DLC, or the ending (s), is completely unfair and unwarranted.  I wish you guys the best, and I look forward to any--and all--that you intend to release for ME3 and any other projects that you might make in the near-future.  Cheers--and thanks for listening to all us, like always!  Image IPB

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TheDasterdly

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Reunion with Jack at end plzzz; my shep lived :)

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Hell, for the most simple changes that I would love would be to kepp everything as is, but add Harbinger taking over TIM after he dies to talk with and possibly fight you and then have the Mass Relays not be destroyed. Maybe replace The Catalyst Kid with Harbinger after the fight. With those simple changes, adding more of a feeling of closure, and a little epilogue (even text) I would be satisfied.

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http://www.themetaga...oblem-with.html

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The prankster21

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Please bring more squadmates back i.e. jack, grunt, Miranda. I don't believe we didn't get a krogan squadmate in this game. Also make dialogue with characters on the citadel more personal and not just standing there till they're done talking! And make our choices throughout the game matter like the paragon renegade options in 2! Make it more like mass effect 2! That was a exciting and memorable game!

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First of all

I want to be able to skip all cutscenes and dialogs via Space Bar. Yes, they are very well made but after you finish whole game watching same cinematics and dialogues over and over again is not fun.

Second

Remove that stupid child dreams. Why would Shepard run after a stupid child in a dream? Little child runs away and we have to catch him in slow motion. I prefer to hit damn little punk with my sniper rifle and get rid of it. Shepard killed thousands of aliens and humanoids, killed reapers, and now he is feeling emotional towards a stupid coward child? Nonsense. Those dreams are only waste of time. I want to skip them completely or give me ability to kill him so I won't have to catch him.

Third

Endings. There are many requests and threads about it and I will be making same request. Give us a proper ending.

Fourth

I am playing this game on my PC, and I have no desire to see low graphics on my gaming monster. I want to see highly detailed textures, not some crappy console textures. Also please fix eye and lip sync on characters. I am feeling very weird when Shepard talks to someone because he seems like having an eye surgery while talking to someone.

Fifth

Banshees need to be tweaked down. They are really pain on multiplayer and on singleplayer. Most players are skipping Reapers on multiplayer because of them.

Sixth

Make DDE dog as a companion. I really think I paid extra 20 euros for nothing. Weapons are useless, dog is useless, soundtracks are cool and art book is mediocre. I was expecting more useful things like weapons can really change game balance but they can not.

Seventh

Make our decisions affect whole game and also give us neutral decisions like on old ME games. If I import my ME1 saves to this game I expect to my decisions affecting this game too, otherwise remove save game import and make a new scenario. Some people said that some events were happened in novels but like most of the gamers here I didn't read them nor I will read them.

Eighth

This game should be a singleplayer game, why do I have to play multiplayer game to change my `singleplayer` ending? It makes no sense. Also I am really sure that after few months no one will be playing multiplayer or only very very very few people will be playing multiplayer. Another thing, we need dedicated servers to play multiplayer, if a player hosts, according to his/her net connection other players's gaming performance will be affected severely.

Ninth

Did I mentioned that I want to skip cutscenes and kill that child who haunts in my dreams and wastes my time? Also in my first mission why Shepard looks like a chicken? Why he hesitates to attack Dr Eva? True Shepard never hesitates to shoot that b**ch. She holds Ash, speaks via comm, takes orders and smashes Ash's head to shuttle and Shepard watches her while eating popcorn. That was very absurd. Shepard is a walking weapon arsenal with a very good aiming skill and he just watches. I wanna hit her and save Ash. After saving her I can hit her head by myself. :)

Last

As others mentinoned I like to see my old squad members back in my crew.

Modifié par Naxterra, 25 mars 2012 - 10:07 .


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NormanRawn

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www.themetagames.com/2012/03/why-you-enjoy-art-and-one-problem-with.html

an amazing read if you take the time to do so, it really states how many of the fans feel about the ending.

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-An optional cure for Thane

-An appropriate reaction from squaddies about Thanes death. (instead of pretending like it never happened) Also maybe a picture of him in shepards room.

-Make shepard show some kind of emotion during and after his death. (I'm not saying she should ball her eyes out but a few tears and an I love you would've been nice.)And more conversations between them,not just the one on the citadel.They could discuss what their future together would've been like.Kinda like the cut dialogue between Anderson and Shephard-about having families-@ the end of the game.

-paramour achievement for Thane/shep please

-No default flashback to liara in the end.

-Indoctrination theory.

-I was disappointed that default FemShep didn't look anything like she does on the box art.I'd love it if something could be done about that.

Thats all the input i have.Thank you for trying to get a better understanding of what the fans want! :D

Modifié par ShadyGerbilz, 26 mars 2012 - 12:13 .


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Dear Bioware, we really really need a happy ending please :*