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[ChandlerL]

Good question.

I'd say 9.5/10

Here's why .5 off from gaming nirvana:

First my main playthrough ME1 through 3 is with Liara as LI with no deviations.

So ME1 - all makes sense, the better part of the relationship is spent validating and developing it's existence and it makes sense to me, not as a gamer, but as a human being with past life experiences. Courtships are expected.

ME2 - Well, here I had Liara available as DLC. Shame that, however it was still a well done DLC. However from an LI point of view, I felt I had to spend too much time doing the exact same thing as ME1, that is-- validating the existence of the relationship and it was only at the very end where it was once again solidified. A missed opportunity that I was expecting would be rectified in Mass Effect 3 but y'know I was dead for 2 years so, in ME2's case, I must acknowlege it did have valid context.

So let's talk Mass Effect 3 and y'know what? In my opinion, for a substantial amount of the time, I'm having to  "validate the relationship" once again- I'm dealing with the same binary question & answer. "Want to be with me? Yes/No" Even with that, I never felt my character had a romantic relationship with her until the near end of the experience and here is where the cracks show, in my opinion. We certainly had a relationship as friends. In fact, the majority of your dialogue with your LI is a two-road static Paragon or Renegade whether they are your LI or not.

For me, it would have been a much better experience if my character got to explore the deeper parts of their relationship such as, the worry of permanent injury and loss (Isn't this a likely event in ME3, noone's worried that this next mission may be their LI or their last?), deeper discussions of a future, may be even arguments that stressed the relationship. How come we never fight? Lord knows we can't  agree on everything, can we? i.e. Garrus is your LI, how come he's not bothered that the first missions you do are not Palaven? Wouldn't it have been cool to have a convo where he pressured you to go to Palaven before anything else? Same with Liara and  Thessia as soon as it comes up?

In addition, wouldn't it have been much more compelling to "be chased" rather than having to, once again, do the chasing. For a third time having to answer "Hey, still interested? Yes/No" when, in my mind I'm thinking, "Are you seriously asking me this question again?" Furthermore, this late in the ME series, why should your response of "No." cause a definite finality after two iterations of the series with that LI. May be it shouldn't. May be your LI is too connected and invested in you to readily accept that answer.

Let's take that even further, how would players react if they were chased, not of their own direct choice of "yes, I'm interested," but by the actions they took in various missions that resonated with the values of other companions. For instance, say you're with Liara but wouldn't it have made for some innovative and divergent gameplay if saaaay Ashley, once convinced you were not the boogie man (heh), and due to the way you "handled" missions (read, in mission dialogue) was now trying to win you over, your LI be damned, and how your LI had to deal with the premise that you're not just the center of his/her universe but perhaps top of mind of other folks as well. Heck, may be Allers just wants to break off a piece of you because your a famous hero.

I was hoping for some of these things to occur in Mass Effect 3 and I didn't see it. I didn't feel that our "history" mattered because in three games I had to answer the binary question and then build upon it each time. In other words, I was hoping for an evolution of the romance aspect that Bioware had created for us. So that's the .5 off for me.

Food for thought, I hope, for future development.

So 9.5/10

Modifié par ChandlerL, 17 mars 2012 - 04:03 .

[incinerator950]

8/10 with and without the ending.

[Davies993]

Without the ending probably about an 8.5/9 out of 10

Modifié par Davies993, 17 mars 2012 - 03:33 .

[Visserian99]

Without the ending? 9/10. A few minor problems here and there, but the whole was greater than the sum of its parts.

Modifié par Visserian99, 17 mars 2012 - 03:35 .

[ElitePinecone]

Absolutely outstanding, minor quibbles about the quest interface aside.

[Cooptimo]

9.5/10

The "best of both worlds" weapons
No overpowered heavy weapons on the back.
No "memory" or "frogger" puzzles every 2 minutes
Great, fantastic, awesome endings to the Genophage, Quarian/Geth, Ardat-Yashi, and Cerberus plots
Adequate endings to the Udina, Rachni plots
Get to hook up with Ashley again, she looks cute in her undies.
I was moved to little manly tears by Legion's "KelaSali"
also by Mordin's sacrifice
Tali is a hottie, I don't care about the photo from.
The ultra dark tone during the assault on London worked really well, It carried the feeling of desperation.
And if Bioware says "Gotcha!" and indoc. theory turns out to be true, then I'll give it's an 11.

[NexusIsaac]

9/10 or 85% out of 100%
Really awesome, but I miss the epicness when you talked to Sovereign. The Reaper you talk with on Rannoch doesn't seem that epic.
With the ending?
Probably the same. I guess they ran out of time and decided to do thoose 3 endings.
And as an ending it isn't bad. But for Mass Effect? No thank you.

Modifié par NexusIsaac, 17 mars 2012 - 03:39 .

[Subject M]

9.6/10
I don't think a 10/10 is really possibly in my book, I guess 9.8 is as close as you can come, but that will probably never happen either.

DAO was like 9.6 with the ending.

With a satisfying ending ME3 would probably be a 9.7/10.
Now its in limbo, impossibly to rate really, for me at least.

With a satisfying ending the entire trilogy would end up around 9.6/10

No other game series comes close to that score in my book.

Yes, I am a card carrying perfectionist.

Modifié par Subject M, 17 mars 2012 - 03:46 .

[xaurabh123]

without 10/10
with ending 1/10

[moonlightwolf]

 Without ending: 10/10 even the worrying trend toward multiplayer and day 1 dlc don't change that score. With the ending the thing falls to a 7/10 because giving a three game series no closure is just rude to its players.

[TomekN86]

Rating Mass Effect 3 without the ending is simple - without a doubt one of the best games ever, so 10/10. Unfortunately there has to be an asterisk... For me personaly, the "endings" kill all replay value and even taint previous installments.
Hold the line.

[AlexXIV]

0/0.

I start disliking Bioware and the everything about them more each day passing without a fix for ME3. They can only get zero points from zero possible at this point from me.

[Stalker]

9.3/10.
- 0.5 for lacking interaction in conversations. Still there, but lacking
- 0.2 for lacking LI-content with ME2-characters

[Hobbes83]

Without the ending 10/10. There are things that could be improved, but still the best game I,ve ever played

[TiaraBlade]

Had the ending held up to the rest of the game, I think 9.5/10. A few quibbles keep it from 10/10 but people forget that 9.5/10 means an INCREDIBLE game, one of the best of the best.

[jhubbard9516]

10/10. Definitely.

[mpgeist]

Probably a 9/10. I have major issues with the side quest tracking and the fact that they copped out on some of the romances and Tali's face. Other than that I was engrossed completely. I had to remind myself to eat at one point lol.

Modifié par mpgeist, 17 mars 2012 - 03:57 .

[jeweledleah]

8/10. too much auto dialogue and copy pasting, clunky controls (could we please stop with "do everything" buttons?), annoying scanning mechanic, too many gimmicky turret fights (2 of which you cannot even hop out of, you have to use the turrets with their crappy aiming controls), characters getting sidelined/assassinated (figuratively mostly, but literally too), disparity in LI general availability and treatment for femshep vs maleshep. Still great fun, full of brilliant moments. great music, great voice acting (not counting Chobot, sorry, but could we please hire professional actors next time?)

endings, both their implementation and how they are affected by multiplayer bring it down to about 5/10 for me. and I KNOW that time dilation, something that made playing infiltrator and soldier even remotely for me - was removed because of multiplayer. so much for multiplayer will not affect quality of single player game in any way...

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

10/10 absolutely loved this game!! Until the end..

[Doomhams]

9.5/10

[SuperTeal]

I give it a 9.5/10 - If I imagine the game ends like this:  

[rallyfan]

9.6/10

Main missions were too linear.
Side missions where not done as well.
The new scanning mini game was not any better than ME2.
I didn't really feel a sense of exploration.

Everything else was perfect.

[zarnk567]

Sry, can't wish I could but..... whenever I think about any game I always think "how was the destination" and this games destination was non-sensical and full of plot holes

[StowyMcStowstow]

7/10 w/o endings, 1/10 with. There are simply too many htings bogging the gameplay down, too many things the devs/writers tried to do (like making Kai Leng look badass, far fewer actual dialogue choices) that really make this game the weakest one in the series, even without the endings.

[Tamahome560]

9.8/10 if you forget about the ending or headcanon a different one.
1/10 if you take the ending into the account. What is even worse, the ending makes ripples, that travel as far back as ME1 and reach not only games, but other mediums in which ME universe is presented, Tainting it as a whole.