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Kai Leng VS healthy Thane : Who would win?


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OniTYME wrote...

Since we're assuming both in their prime, Retribution Leng.


Pretty much this. I believe it would still be close, but Kai FTW.

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Kai Lame could barely beat a half-dead Thane.

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Thane would beat the crap out of Kai Leng
Kai Leng can barely beat Thane when he is near death

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Think about it: Kai Leng only had, at most, a few years of training as an assassin (and this was by Cerberus and we all know how badly they can screw up... *cough* Overlord *cough*) while Thane has been trained as an assassin since he was six. Not to mention the fact that he had top marks in the training program for Drell assassins, which would make him an elite of the elite. Kai Leng got lucky. It's as simple as that.

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Thane in his prime could kill any target and most of the time without even being seen or noticed, Kai got his ass kicked by nearly everyone he went up against, even grayson kicked his head in and nearly killed him, it was only due to anderson that he wasnt killed, after that he was basically a cripple until 3 started as anderson bein the good chap he is knee capped leng.

 So thane easily, every time. Infact the only thing that ever puzzled me with kei leng is that ari didnt use him to paint a wall red.

Modifié par shingara, 14 octobre 2013 - 09:41 .


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Thane of course....

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Like there was ever any question about who'd win between those two? Thane

Kai, when you're losing to a half-dead assassin with a serious respiratory illness, than its time to find a new occupation and quickly....

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It's interesting to see how many people simultaneously appear to delight in how weak Leng is and demand that he should have been stronger.

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If not for Kai Leng's sword and his Phase Disruptor, Thane would have won hands down. But Than could only dodge either the sword or the phase disruptor. Cheaters never prosper which is why he died....RENEGADE ACTION!

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Leng got thrown ONCE by REAPER Grayson. Lets not get that twisted... I'd say it'd be a close fight, but Thane would have an edge in experience. Leng is more Batman like with his hits. He doesnt just go in and murder everybody. He plans for days, weeks. He uses disguises and liasons. Thane seems to have a general strategy of not being noticed and uses ignored figures like beggars and children for recon.

Its a battle of who has the higher level of Batman.

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David7204 wrote...

It's interesting to see how many people simultaneously appear to delight in how weak Leng is and demand that he should have been stronger.


Your such a dope. Nobody is asking for this. 

Modifié par General Slotts, 15 octobre 2013 - 05:40 .


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Probably Thane. I mean he would have beat Kai in his sickly form if the whole cast (including him) didn't go full retard in that cutscene.

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CynicalShep wrote...

Probably Thane. I mean he would have beat Kai in his sickly form if the whole cast (including him) didn't go full retard in that cutscene.


And never go full retard. Never. There's no awards or no cool ninja moments in it for you. 

Now ME3 version of Kai Leng in  vs. Healthy Thane.... Thane would whoop the sh!t outta him. 

Leng from the Drew. K. novels. 

Toss up. Leng is a Bad MOFO in those books. But thane is equally as menacing. 

Grunt kills them both. Easily. Then eat's them. Yum. Yum. 

Actually, Grunt might just kill Thane. Then keep kai leng as his pet. 

Modifié par NeonFlux117, 15 octobre 2013 - 05:53 .


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NeonFlux117 wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Probably Thane. I mean he would have beat Kai in his sickly form if the whole cast (including him) didn't go full retard in that cutscene.


And never go full retard. Never. There's no awards or no cool ninja moments in it for you. 

Now ME3 version of Kai Leng in  vs. Healthy Thane.... Thane would whoop the sh!t outta him. 

Leng from the Drew. K. novels. 

Toss up. Leng is a Bad MOFO in those books. But thane is equally as menacing. 

Grunt kills them both. Easily. Then eat's them. Yum. Yum. 

Actually, Grunt might just kill Thane. Then keep kai leng as his pet. 

And you know who can beat them all? This guy.

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CynicalShep wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Probably Thane. I mean he would have beat Kai in his sickly form if the whole cast (including him) didn't go full retard in that cutscene.


And never go full retard. Never. There's no awards or no cool ninja moments in it for you. 

Now ME3 version of Kai Leng in  vs. Healthy Thane.... Thane would whoop the sh!t outta him. 

Leng from the Drew. K. novels. 

Toss up. Leng is a Bad MOFO in those books. But thane is equally as menacing. 

Grunt kills them both. Easily. Then eat's them. Yum. Yum. 

Actually, Grunt might just kill Thane. Then keep kai leng as his pet. 

And you know who can beat them all? This guy.

+9000

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J. Reezy wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

NeonFlux117 wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Probably Thane. I mean he would have beat Kai in his sickly form if the whole cast (including him) didn't go full retard in that cutscene.


And never go full retard. Never. There's no awards or no cool ninja moments in it for you. 

Now ME3 version of Kai Leng in  vs. Healthy Thane.... Thane would whoop the sh!t outta him. 

Leng from the Drew. K. novels. 

Toss up. Leng is a Bad MOFO in those books. But thane is equally as menacing. 

Grunt kills them both. Easily. Then eat's them. Yum. Yum. 

Actually, Grunt might just kill Thane. Then keep kai leng as his pet. 

And you know who can beat them all? This guy.

+9000

inb4 "that's laughable/ridiculous/stupid/childish/moronic". 
Liara and paragon Shep would wipe the floors with this unheroic John

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OniTYME wrote...

Leng got thrown ONCE by REAPER Grayson. Lets not get that twisted... I'd say it'd be a close fight, but Thane would have an edge in experience. Leng is more Batman like with his hits. He doesnt just go in and murder everybody. He plans for days, weeks. He uses disguises and liasons. Thane seems to have a general strategy of not being noticed and uses ignored figures like beggars and children for recon.

Its a battle of who has the higher level of Batman.


 Thats sort of the point with an assasin or thief, kasumi can be thrown into the same boat as thane when it comes to recon, just kasumi uses more electronic survelance. One thing most if not all are forgetting about thane is that he can ignore pain, not just withstand it but outright ignore it and carry on fighting.

 At the point leng actualy manages to stab thane and might we say not outright kill him thane was running at something like 10% lung capacity, which for you me and everyone else in me universe = unconcious to dead. In the position thane not only fought leng but also nearly had him beaten.

 Now imagine thane running at 100% lung capacity, all his muscles working and his ability to bring full knowlegde to the front for every fight, muscle memory has nothing on thane, he has muscle memory and full retention of all fighting knowlegde he has used and had used against him through direct access to any memory and action he has ever taken.

 Leng is the polar opposite to thane, ye he can fight but he fights with an army behind him, when ever its a one on one fight leng normaly and most of the time gets his ass handed to him, doesnt finish the fight and either gets pawned or runs away. Ye grayson had reaper tech in him when he nearly killed leng ( which was only stopped because anderson saved leng) but so did leng when he went up against a nearly dead thane. So add that into the mix when you consider it.

Modifié par shingara, 15 octobre 2013 - 07:21 .


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If Thane had been healthy then KL would have escaped and Thane would have been turned into a war asset in your war asset terminal.(assuming you did his loyalty quest in ME2) If not he would still die because you missed his loyalty quest.

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I'm sure it's been said, but Thane's illness must've affected his head. He should've won that fight before it even began. Especially if he fought the way he fought his whole life. People often talk about character assassinations; this was one that was both literal and within the writing. A unworthy sendoff of a good character.

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Its definitely Thane, even a weaken Thane should've defeated a cyborg up Kei Leng. If Kei Leng was that great the Illusive Man would've had him on Shepards crew in Mass Effect 2 instead of a at that time unpredictable non-human assassin in Thane.



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I actually think kai lame would win, plot armor... remember? the writers won't let him die till the endgame starts.

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Thane would win only if he remembers the cardinal rule of bringing a gun to a knife fight: "Don't run and shoot. Just shoot."

 

Indy knows this.



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Thane would win only if he remembers the cardinal rule of bringing a gun to a knife fight: "Don't run and shoot. Just shoot."
 
Indy knows this.


if you bring a knife into a gunfight, and you actually know how to use a knife properly, in close proximity a knife is actually an advantage. moral of this story, if you use a knife... get close quickly, and stay close.

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I think I would have 'nerfed' Thane somewhat. He was written as a bit more capable than I would've liked.



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