Please help! While in Orzimmar, I decided to proceed with quests for both sides. Therefore, I completed the proving and went into the deep roads (I think that is what its called). Now, when I return to the characters to continue quest, both call me a traitor and wont talk to me. Therefore, I cannot proceed. I am assuming that either must give next quest before proceeding to find skull key, etc. Any help would be appreciated...
Troubles in Orzimmar
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wes72971
, nov. 29 2009 06:22
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#2
Posté 29 novembre 2009 - 09:10
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Same situation just like most others who encountered with supporting both Harrowmont and Bhelen. I cannot move on to the next quest within Orzammar.
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Posté 29 novembre 2009 - 03:14
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How stupid!!! There has to be a way to work around without restarting!!! Can the game be completed without recruiting the dwarves???
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Posté 29 novembre 2009 - 03:19
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No.wes72971 wrote...
Can the game be completed without recruiting the dwarves???
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Posté 29 novembre 2009 - 03:54
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So, Bioware creates a game that one wrong turn and you have to start over?!?!?! Well, this one is going back on Monday! I've completed everything except Orzimmar! I'll be damned if I'm going to start a new game because the dev's didn't have the foresight to think that many players would work both sides before making a decision. And if the goal was to force you to make a decision...I have! My decision is that I'll get 20 bucks back and not buy BioWare anymore!!!
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Posté 29 novembre 2009 - 06:40
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No. Trust me, when you would have completed the game you would feel the urge to start a 2nd playthrough anyway, so I'd recommend to start another playthrough in another Origin and play through to the end without making the same mistake. The ending is fantastic.wes72971 wrote...
So, Bioware creates a game that one wrong turn and you have to start over?!?!?! Well, this one is going back on Monday! I've completed everything except Orzimmar! I'll be damned if I'm going to start a new game because the dev's didn't have the foresight to think that many players would work both sides before making a decision. And if the goal was to force you to make a decision...I have! My decision is that I'll get 20 bucks back and not buy BioWare anymore!!!
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 10:54
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wes72971 wrote...
Please help! While in Orzimmar, I decided to proceed with quests for both sides. Therefore, I completed the proving and went into the deep roads (I think that is what its called). Now, when I return to the characters to continue quest, both call me a traitor and wont talk to me. Therefore, I cannot proceed. I am assuming that either must give next quest before proceeding to find skull key, etc. Any help would be appreciated...
Similar thing happened to me. 70 hours in no less... Found the Lord in the Deep Roads, and told him of the lie. Did the proving also. Now neither quest giver will talk to me. I did get the key from the block behind Vartag though. In my quest log it still shows the "A princes favor: the first task" as being active. Says I need to returnt to Vartag and talk to him to check progress on the Assembly. Well, he won't talk to me! Nice... a game breaking bug 70 hours in. Pathetic!
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 07:51
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please fix this. how many people need to post about this before we get a real response?
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 08:15
I Tsunayoshi I
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BW doesnt care because they would rather crank out DLC than to do anything constructive.
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Posté 02 décembre 2009 - 09:55
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Try going to the tavern and talking to Harrowmont's rep there. I was playing both against the other through the first two tasks, and now I'm on the Paragon task still playing them both against the other. I told Harrowmont's rep that I'd be their inside spy. Still haven't decided who I'll back after I finish Anvil, though.
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Posté 07 décembre 2009 - 12:37
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So replaying the game is the only option for this? Bioware tech basically said this is "an ingame issue which they could not help".
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Posté 07 décembre 2009 - 01:09
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It may be fixed in the patch that they are promising for this week.
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Posté 07 décembre 2009 - 03:16
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It's a bug, which is silly because it is possible to support harrowont then immedaitely switch to Bhelen's side, maybe level up persuasion and come back?
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Posté 07 décembre 2009 - 12:28
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Nyghtlord wrote...
Try going to the tavern and talking to Harrowmont's rep there. I was playing both against the other through the first two tasks, and now I'm on the Paragon task still playing them both against the other. I told Harrowmont's rep that I'd be their inside spy. Still haven't decided who I'll back after I finish Anvil, though.
Try this before chucking your game into the fireplace.
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Posté 14 décembre 2009 - 05:16
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the trick to playing both sides is NOT to deliver the (fake) land agreements, but instead go to the proving, get both dropped out fighters to side with you... and win... then Vartag will confront you in the Proving s waiting area.. convince him you can be a better spy for him and he will ask you to come back with Harrowmonts plans. (Vartag will go back to the aasembly) Speak with Harrowmont's lackey in Tapster's ... and the rest will play out smoothly.
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Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 01:25
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Oh, and if the whole thing didn't work out, is there a reason you don't have a save from before you went to Orzimar? I mean, there's like 25 save slots per character. I end up using them all. I don't over-write the first save from each area. I use a new save, then a new save, then rotate back and forth. Maybe with 3 even. Then, once I finish the area, I can use the later saves, but I always keep a few. So, for each character, I have a save from when I first gained control of my character in the origins. Another from when I first got control of the character in Ostagar. Another in the Korkarri wilds. Another from Lothering. By the end of the game, I can pretty much go back to any area I want...and if I screw something royally, I can redo without redoing the whole game. But since I'm not rewriting over the same save 700 times, they don't corrupt.
A tip.
A tip.
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Posté 15 décembre 2009 - 03:41
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I always save with each level up, myself. Makes things simple. 
Personally, I do not feel that the Dwarven area is well written at all. It's very unrealistic to have Grey Wardens become directly involved with deciding political outcomes as they are stated to be exactly the opposite from such behavior. Still, the two reps warn you not to go to the other, so the writers do offer a warning, at least. Not that I think that excuses the poor writing for this section or the problems it causes for the story and gameplay.
Personally, I do not feel that the Dwarven area is well written at all. It's very unrealistic to have Grey Wardens become directly involved with deciding political outcomes as they are stated to be exactly the opposite from such behavior. Still, the two reps warn you not to go to the other, so the writers do offer a warning, at least. Not that I think that excuses the poor writing for this section or the problems it causes for the story and gameplay.
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Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 12:26
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I would spoil it all save to tell you only of them is telling the truth... but that's hard enough to find out
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Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 12:37
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TruFenrir wrote...
I would spoil it all save to tell you only of them is telling the truth... but that's hard enough to find out
Does it matter who is right? Its a case of picking your poison considering that both of the canidates have personal reasons for taking control and you have to choose a side.
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Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 04:59
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how long is it going to have this fixed i was just talking to technical support and they act like this is new information
maybe if everyone emails them their complaint?
i have like everything else done, the game wont progress!!!! ahhhhhh!!!!
maybe if everyone emails them their complaint?
i have like everything else done, the game wont progress!!!! ahhhhhh!!!!
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Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:05
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I am sure that Bioware knows about this and that it is actually common knowledge that EA would call this a 'gameplay' problem and pass the buck since they think that just about everything wrong with the game is a gameplay problem.
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Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:46
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i had no problems playing both sides. As soon as you finish the paragon quest, it skips you to the assembly and you pick a king. No idea why so many are having such a problem with this.
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Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 05:35
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Tresserhorn98 wrote...
i had no problems playing both sides. As soon as you finish the paragon quest, it skips you to the assembly and you pick a king. No idea why so many are having such a problem with this.
Because too many people take everything the NPC's say litterally... One of my friends totally wreck Redcliffe not knowing that Teagan wasn't serious... so sad, the dark side is.... hmm?
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Posté 16 décembre 2009 - 10:55
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Both dwarves are corrupt. Then again, both are in politics, and one is in business, so perhaps it's just a cynical presentation of such occupations.
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Posté 17 décembre 2009 - 12:16
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TruFenrir wrote...
Tresserhorn98 wrote...
i had no problems playing both sides. As soon as you finish the paragon quest, it skips you to the assembly and you pick a king. No idea why so many are having such a problem with this.
Because too many people take everything the NPC's say litterally... One of my friends totally wreck Redcliffe not knowing that Teagan wasn't serious... so sad, the dark side is.... hmm?
I'm at Redcliffe right now, trying to decide if I should leave them to thier own ends or play the hero again.. I kinda want to see what an over run Redcliffe looks like..
Side note: We need a Sith smiley...
